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Another Portal Loss and Portal Discussion
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How many millions of people are in college football stadiums on a Saturday? Really think that is going to disappear? - I don't
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We are facing the same problem many before us have faced…the P5 cartel driven by ESPN has unjustly conspired to control the market…..
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I am currently both a w2 employee one place and get 1099s with another business I run with my wife. Some 1099 contractors may be subject to workers comp laws depending on the work environment (but never OT or minimum wage), however, it certainly is not across the board. In fact, I would guess it is the exception rather than the rule to be covered. Our business gets a dozen 1099s each year for commissions we earn from selling products for a variety of vendors. I would not have a workers comp claim against any of those vendors were I to be injured while selling their products. I of course am also not subject to minimum wages laws or overtime laws, or get any benefits, vacation, etc or any of the other things I do get through my w2 employment. To merely ask the question shows a lack of understanding of the very nature of what an independent contractor is all about. And I can guarantee, student athletes getting NIL money from a third party other than the university are, for tax purposes, considered independent contractors and get a 1099.
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I disagree with this completely....take away the school name and you just have a mini pro league. How many triple AAA baseball games have you watched this year or the Gleague basketball. The schools are what many tune in for. Now...if you get the price up too high people will substitute their entertainment.appdaze wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 4:46 pmImagine you decide to leave your job for a company that pays more. What kind of a crazy world would that be? It almost like we have a capitalist economy or something. The problem is that athletics are tied to academic institutions. We are one of, maybe the only one, in the world that ties athletics to academic institutions. It was never going to be successful in the long run with the ingenious farce of amateurism. I've said this a million times now that eventually athletics will have to break from the schools and become their own entities or die out. There is too much money involved and eventually the players will become employees as they should. They should get paid for their labor like any other labor force. We are just unlucky in that we are a middle sized sports program. It's no different than being a middle sized store chain competing with Walmart. I hate it for us I really do, but it's the nature of the beast. Enjoy the ride while we still have a wave.
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Part of what I've said before on here is that teams would be affiliated with a school name, thus keeping a similar fanbase in the same way that you have the Pittsburg Steelers, L. A. Lakers. The cities do not own the teams, but they are affiliates. College sports are already a minor league system. I'm not sure why people keep bringing that up as if it isn't already the case. I disagree that people tune in for the schools. Most college fans never attended college, and the school means little to them beyond the athletic program and if it is successful or they follow it because it is local.spacemonkey wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 11:03 pmI disagree with this completely....take away the school name and you just have a mini pro league. How many triple AAA baseball games have you watched this year or the Gleague basketball. The schools are what many tune in for. Now...if you get the price up too high people will substitute their entertainment.appdaze wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 4:46 pmImagine you decide to leave your job for a company that pays more. What kind of a crazy world would that be? It almost like we have a capitalist economy or something. The problem is that athletics are tied to academic institutions. We are one of, maybe the only one, in the world that ties athletics to academic institutions. It was never going to be successful in the long run with the ingenious farce of amateurism. I've said this a million times now that eventually athletics will have to break from the schools and become their own entities or die out. There is too much money involved and eventually the players will become employees as they should. They should get paid for their labor like any other labor force. We are just unlucky in that we are a middle sized sports program. It's no different than being a middle sized store chain competing with Walmart. I hate it for us I really do, but it's the nature of the beast. Enjoy the ride while we still have a wave.
To answer your question for minor leagues in general, Durham bulls, hickory crawdads, WS dash, and technically, it was 2022, but this season the charlotte checkers. I couldn't get around to a Hornets Gleague game this year.
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Don’t worry WV will be fine.
Most of us here don’t care about the P2 and Mezz 3 conferences other than casual viewing.
We are however INVESTED in App athletics and that way of life is jeopardized under the under circumstances.
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I'd be willing to bet that over 90% of the average fan of an average G5 couldn't care less about getting to the CFP and most of that number doesn't even know how it works. The (mostly older) die hard fans live and die for this stuff. If you drop by the average FCS Saturday game day you would still see lots of people having fun and enjoying the game. Same for probably 75% of the rest of the college football world. That small group of teams who have a legit shot at the title are in a completely different mindset. It's all perspective. Many of us who have been around to see the glory days of the SOCON and our FCS run would agree that those years were great. I remember not too long ago actually having to listen to games on my radio. Listened to the Michigan game on the computer. It's a shame that the fun aspect has been replaced by the all of nothing deal and now we are consumed by NIL and worrying about whether our good players will bolt for a payday.
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Accept it and move on , be the best we can be and enjoy the ride , because it is all too brief.
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Mid and lower-level P5s are not immune to getting hurt by the influence of NILs and the transfer portal; it flows downhill. It seems to do more damage further down since those teams and G5s don't have as much depth to withstand it. I still think it can be offset somewhat when we can get some P5 players who have not been satisfied with playing time (as we have done with the portal this year).
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Definitely have to do that and go after FCS stars. A lot of FCS players would just love to play in FBS. I hope we are evaluating the FCS level heavily because there are many good players that could help us.BayouApp wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:23 amMid and lower-level P5s are not immune to getting hurt by the influence of NILs and the transfer portal; it flows downhill. It seems to do more damage further down since those teams and G5s don't have as much depth to withstand it. I still think it can be offset somewhat when we can get some P5 players who have not been satisfied with playing time (as we have done with the portal this year).
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Counted over a third of the guys drafted in the first 3 rounds were from the SEC.
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Commisioner Greg Sankey and The SEC decided to play Big Boy football a while back. The way I see it, the ACC decided to keep living the dying Basketball dream, ignoring football. College football ad/TV generates way more money than college basketball. The divide is only going to get bigger because of money. Recent article of the ACC splitting up or going away as we know may be more truth than specualtion. I look for more than 1/3 of the early rounds to be the norm from the SEC and from the Big Ten for the rest of my football viewing days with all the money that can be thrown at the elite football players to go entertain and perform at the top schools along with having NFL aspirations. This environment is going to make it tougher for mid majors to sign any recognized talent because of the skewed draft and money mid majors cant obtain or get sponsorship money.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/31/spor ... y-sec.html
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The ACC will fall behind because they signed a Grant of Rights going through 2036. In one sense, it likely kept FSU and Clemson from leaving after Maryland's exit, but it might mean they go to the SEC eventually because of how the revenue will remain stagnant compared to the B1G, SEC and even the B12. The ACC knows members won't leave in just one fell swoop, it'll be multiple swoops in quick succession by the SEC, B1G and maybe even the B12 (depending on how this Pac-10 TV deal looks when it finally closes). Then all of a sudden, Boston College, Syracuse, Wake and Duke will be calling the Big East.
The divergent interests of the members, as previously mentioned, is another big negative. The Sun Belt molding the league from 10/12 to 14/14 football/full members was smart.
But yeah, you'll be seeing more SEC/B1G players in the early draft rounds going forward, me thinks.
The divergent interests of the members, as previously mentioned, is another big negative. The Sun Belt molding the league from 10/12 to 14/14 football/full members was smart.
But yeah, you'll be seeing more SEC/B1G players in the early draft rounds going forward, me thinks.
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Gap has been getting larger for the better part of 20 years now. SEC is a farm system for the NFL. Yet, we can still hang tough with and or beat them!!! Go AppsBlack Saturday wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 2:25 pmCommisioner Greg Sankey and The SEC decided to play Big Boy football a while back. The way I see it, the ACC decided to keep living the dying Basketball dream, ignoring football. College football ad/TV generates way more money than college basketball. The divide is only going to get bigger because of money. Recent article of the ACC splitting up or going away as we know may be more truth than specualtion. I look for more than 1/3 of the early rounds to be the norm from the SEC and from the Big Ten for the rest of my football viewing days with all the money that can be thrown at the elite football players to go entertain and perform at the top schools along with having NFL aspirations. This environment is going to make it tougher for mid majors to sign any recognized talent because of the skewed draft and money mid majors cant obtain or get sponsorship money.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/31/spor ... y-sec.html
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Heard that!311neers wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 4:53 pmGap has been getting larger for the better part of 20 years now. SEC is a farm system for the NFL. Yet, we can still hang tough with and or beat them!!! Go AppsBlack Saturday wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 2:25 pmCommisioner Greg Sankey and The SEC decided to play Big Boy football a while back. The way I see it, the ACC decided to keep living the dying Basketball dream, ignoring football. College football ad/TV generates way more money than college basketball. The divide is only going to get bigger because of money. Recent article of the ACC splitting up or going away as we know may be more truth than specualtion. I look for more than 1/3 of the early rounds to be the norm from the SEC and from the Big Ten for the rest of my football viewing days with all the money that can be thrown at the elite football players to go entertain and perform at the top schools along with having NFL aspirations. This environment is going to make it tougher for mid majors to sign any recognized talent because of the skewed draft and money mid majors cant obtain or get sponsorship money.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/31/spor ... y-sec.html
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We are living it too.InFor6More wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 8:36 pmHeard that!311neers wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 4:53 pmGap has been getting larger for the better part of 20 years now. SEC is a farm system for the NFL. Yet, we can still hang tough with and or beat them!!! Go AppsBlack Saturday wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 2:25 pmCommisioner Greg Sankey and The SEC decided to play Big Boy football a while back. The way I see it, the ACC decided to keep living the dying Basketball dream, ignoring football. College football ad/TV generates way more money than college basketball. The divide is only going to get bigger because of money. Recent article of the ACC splitting up or going away as we know may be more truth than specualtion. I look for more than 1/3 of the early rounds to be the norm from the SEC and from the Big Ten for the rest of my football viewing days with all the money that can be thrown at the elite football players to go entertain and perform at the top schools along with having NFL aspirations. This environment is going to make it tougher for mid majors to sign any recognized talent because of the skewed draft and money mid majors cant obtain or get sponsorship money.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/31/spor ... y-sec.html
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