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Re: Spring Ball

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:28 pm
by ericsaid
AppStateNews wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:26 am
pop5app wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:34 am
firemoose wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 12:19 am
Just to give some a look at the roster differences:

Additions:
2 Tyrek Funderburk CB
4 Joey Aguilar QB
5 Michael Fletcher DE
9 Mason McHugh QB
9 Jarrett Paul SAF
12 Shawn Collins DE
13 Trenton Alan Yowe CB
15 Makai Jackson WR
17 Jalik Thomas SAF
20 Jaylon Calhoun RB
24 Scoobie Ford WR
24 Cahari Haynes ILB
29 Maquel Haywood RB
36 Reece Larson WR
49 Mitchell Lake P
59 Jack Murphy OL
82 Chris Lawson Jr. WR
90 Nate Johnson DE
92 AJ Mebane DE
95 Kason Boston DE
98 Andrew Jordan DE

Deletions:
1 Kaleb Dawson DB
4 Daetrich Harrington RB
5 Dexter Lawson Jr. DB
6 Steven Jones Jr. DB
6 Camerun Peoples RB
7 Chase Brice QB
7 Trey Cobb ILB
9 Nick Hampton OLB
9 Christian Wells WR
10 DC Tabscott QB
17 Isaac Johnson DB
19 Reece Larson WR
20 Tyler Page WR
21 Elijah Johnson WR
22 Jordan Mitchell ILB
24 Jonathan Streeter DB
28 KeSean Brown OLB
33 Peter Hennigan TE
34 Jourdan Heilig LB
35 Gerry Snyder TE
40 Logan Doublin ILB
43 Hansky Paillant DL
46 Chris Washington DL
47 Colin Guentensberger OLB
49 Nate Blanton Jr. ILB
51 Tyler Bird ILB
57 Trey Schaneville K
58 Chase Presnell OL
59 Andrew Jordan DL
66 Luke Smith OL
70 Cooper Hodges OL
74 Anderson Hardy OL
76 Austin Reeves OL
78 Craig McFarland OL
80 AJ Hall WR
82 Jaquan Lowman WR
88 Henry Pearson TE
90 Dorian Pickett DL
99 Jordon Earle DL

Number Changes:
44 to 7 Anderson Castle RB
15 to 7 Andrew Parker ILB
37 to 47 Carter Everett K
25 to 37 Trae Nickelson III WR
41 to 40 Cole Becker ILB
40 to 57 Austin Shook K
8 to 88 Jacoby Pinckney WR
98 to 88 Donovan Spellman OLB

Number Not Assigned Yet (Summer Arrivals):
Jayden Bethea LB
Max Drag TE
Zyeir Gamble SAF
Ryan McKinnis LB
Colton Phares SAF
DJ Porter CB
Cayden Sweatt OL
Grant Tucker WR


What concerns me the most (after QB), is OL. Looks like we lost and entire offensive line ( I know some did not start) and we only have 2 new o-linemen.
We lost two starters on OL (but they are big time starters at the tackles) and a spot backup that was projected as a starter this year. If we can't find some bodies to shore up the tackles, it could be a long season.

That said, I am confident the staff knows what we have in line for the tackle position that we have not seen yet. We are thin there for sure and will probably grab a couple more guys there via transfer portal after spring ball.
Burger may be raw but he's got the buns to make the hungry defense play ketchup.

Re: Spring Ball

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2023 7:33 am
by Appstate88
ericsaid wrote:
Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:24 pm
Stonewall wrote:
Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:21 pm
I like em both but Sloan has me fired up.
App's coordinator changes were very, very underrated by the fans in my estimation. Sloan and Ponce both are P5 quality guys yet they are in Boone.
We are a P5 quality program with a G5 budget. Give your $$$ for App State.

Re: Spring Ball

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:22 am
by Cro-Magnon App
Lately, I’ve chosen to give to ASU educational programs rather than athletics. When the NCAA reels in the NIL deals and straightens out this transfer portal, I’ll give a portion to athletics again.

Re: Spring Ball

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2023 3:15 pm
by ASUFan4863
Cro-Magnon App wrote:
Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:22 am
Lately, I’ve chosen to give to ASU educational programs rather than athletics. When the NCAA reels in the NIL deals and straightens out this transfer portal, I’ll give a portion to athletics again.
So you are choosing to "punish" App athletics for NCAA actions?

Re: Spring Ball

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2023 3:51 pm
by Black Saturday
I'd like to see a list of NILs for APP Football, I have no clue as to where that stands but my guess it's closer to being slim and rank in the have nots rather than what we'd hope. Give the middle finger to the NCAA rather than your alma mater.

Re: Spring Ball

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2023 11:08 pm
by Saint3333
ASUFan4863 wrote:
Tue Feb 28, 2023 3:15 pm
Cro-Magnon App wrote:
Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:22 am
Lately, I’ve chosen to give to ASU educational programs rather than athletics. When the NCAA reels in the NIL deals and straightens out this transfer portal, I’ll give a portion to athletics again.
So you are choosing to "punish" App athletics for NCAA actions?
A person gives to causes that they believe utilize their funds in a manner that support their values and objective they agree with.

I sit on a foundation that grants funds to worthy causes that support one of four core beliefs of our company. If a charity doesn’t spend funds in accordance with our policy we don’t contribute to them.

Everyone has the right to give where they choose and college athletics have shifted from its previously stated causes. I’ve not stopped giving, but I can understand why some would if we continue down this path.

Re: Spring Ball

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2023 11:28 pm
by VNova
Black Saturday wrote:
Tue Feb 28, 2023 3:51 pm
I'd like to see a list of NILs for APP Football, I have no clue as to where that stands but my guess it's closer to being slim and rank in the have nots rather than what we'd hope. Give the middle finger to the NCAA rather than your alma mater.
He's still giving and supporting App. Athletics or not, any money going to App is going to help the school.

Re: Spring Ball

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:49 am
by BambooRdApp
Cro-Magnon App wrote:
Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:22 am
Lately, I’ve chosen to give to ASU educational programs rather than athletics. When the NCAA reels in the NIL deals and straightens out this transfer portal, I’ll give a portion to athletics again.
I commend you for giving to App. St.!! in however way you feel is best to support the the university.

Re: Spring Ball

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:28 am
by Appst86
firemoose wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 12:19 am
Just to give some a look at the roster differences:

Additions:
2 Tyrek Funderburk CB
4 Joey Aguilar QB
5 Michael Fletcher DE
9 Mason McHugh QB
9 Jarrett Paul SAF
12 Shawn Collins DE
13 Trenton Alan Yowe CB
15 Makai Jackson WR
17 Jalik Thomas SAF
20 Jaylon Calhoun RB
24 Scoobie Ford WR
24 Cahari Haynes ILB
29 Maquel Haywood RB
49 Mitchell Lake P
59 Jack Murphy OL
82 Chris Lawson Jr. WR
90 Nate Johnson DE
92 AJ Mebane DE
95 Kason Boston DE

Deletions:
1 Kaleb Dawson DB
4 Daetrich Harrington RB
5 Dexter Lawson Jr. DB
6 Steven Jones Jr. DB
6 Camerun Peoples RB
7 Chase Brice QB
7 Trey Cobb ILB
9 Nick Hampton OLB
9 Christian Wells WR
10 DC Tabscott QB
17 Isaac Johnson DB
19 Reece Larson WR
20 Tyler Page WR
21 Elijah Johnson WR
22 Jordan Mitchell ILB
24 Jonathan Streeter DB
28 KeSean Brown OLB
33 Peter Hennigan TE
34 Jourdan Heilig LB
35 Gerry Snyder TE
40 Logan Doublin ILB
43 Hansky Paillant DL
46 Chris Washington DL
47 Colin Guentensberger OLB
49 Nate Blanton Jr. ILB
51 Tyler Bird ILB
57 Trey Schaneville K
58 Chase Presnell OL
59 Andrew Jordan DL
66 Luke Smith OL
70 Cooper Hodges OL
74 Anderson Hardy OL
76 Austin Reeves OL
78 Craig McFarland OL
80 AJ Hall WR
82 Jaquan Lowman WR
88 Henry Pearson TE
90 Dorian Pickett DL
99 Jordon Earle DL

Number Changes:
44 to 7 Anderson Castle RB
15 to 7 Andrew Parker ILB
37 to 47 Carter Everett K
25 to 37 Trae Nickelson III WR
41 to 40 Cole Becker ILB
40 to 57 Austin Shook K
8 to 88 Jacoby Pinckney WR
98 to 88 Donovan Spellman OLB
19 to 36 Reece Larson WR
57 to 98 Andrew Jordan DE

Number Not Assigned Yet (Summer Arrivals):
Jayden Bethea LB
Max Drag TE
Zyeir Gamble SAF
Ryan McKinnis LB
Colton Phares SAF
DJ Porter CB
Cayden Sweatt OL
Grant Tucker WR
Don't see Devin Price, the WR transfer from A&M. Is he enrolling this summer?
https://247sports.com/Player/Devin-Price-46049177/

Re: Spring Ball

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:38 am
by AppSt94
Yes. He was having issues with transfer credits so he needs to finish at A&M and then he will be here as a Grad transfer.

Re: Spring Ball

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2023 3:42 pm
by ericsaid
Cro-Magnon App wrote:
Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:22 am
Lately, I’ve chosen to give to ASU educational programs rather than athletics. When the NCAA reels in the NIL deals and straightens out this transfer portal, I’ll give a portion to athletics again.
This is quite literally the opposite of what you should do. The school doesn't have anything to do with NIL, in App's case. All that coin you stopped giving just stopped. There is an App NIL Collective you could give to as well but you're not hurting anyone but the team you claim to support.

Re: Spring Ball

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2023 3:43 pm
by ericsaid
AppSt94 wrote:
Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:38 am
Yes. He was having issues with transfer credits so he needs to finish at A&M and then he will be here as a Grad transfer.
Well, there goes my $10 a month...right onto a free board..

Re: Spring Ball

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2023 3:52 pm
by BambooRdApp
ericsaid wrote:
Wed Mar 01, 2023 3:42 pm
Cro-Magnon App wrote:
Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:22 am
Lately, I’ve chosen to give to ASU educational programs rather than athletics. When the NCAA reels in the NIL deals and straightens out this transfer portal, I’ll give a portion to athletics again.
This is quite literally the opposite of what you should do. The school doesn't have anything to do with NIL, in App's case. All that coin you stopped giving just stopped. There is an App NIL Collective you could give to as well but you're not hurting anyone but the team you claim to support.
I do not know the OP...but have they said they have given less to App. St. overall? If someone wants to give disposable income to academics vs athletics. Their choice. .and glad they are giving back to school in some form or fashion.

Re: Spring Ball

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2023 4:22 pm
by AppSt94
ericsaid wrote:
Wed Mar 01, 2023 3:43 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:38 am
Yes. He was having issues with transfer credits so he needs to finish at A&M and then he will be here as a Grad transfer.
Well, there goes my $10 a month...right onto a free board..
You freely assume that I get all my information from 24/7. I can assure you that is not the case.

Re: Spring Ball

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2023 4:30 pm
by Tru2ASU
To me, it seems, App refuses to get involved in much of the NIL. Which is fine, but will be a hindrance if it takes years for the NCAA to reign in.

Re: Spring Ball

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:34 pm
by AppSt94
Tru2ASU wrote:
Wed Mar 01, 2023 4:30 pm
To me, it seems, App refuses to get involved in much of the NIL. Which is fine, but will be a hindrance if it takes years for the NCAA to reign in.
Technically speaking, App can’t get involved in NIL outside of speaking in generalities and working with donors to promote the need. The reality is that outside of pocket money for the athletes, there isn’t much opportunity for a huge payday on the mountain.

Re: Spring Ball

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:40 pm
by AtlAppMan
Nobody should criticize anyone giving in any form to the university. All forms of contribution to App State is good. Everyone has their reasons for how and why they give and that should be their business, not mine.

Re: Spring Ball

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:40 pm
by Bootsy
VNova wrote:
Tue Feb 28, 2023 11:28 pm
Black Saturday wrote:
Tue Feb 28, 2023 3:51 pm
I'd like to see a list of NILs for APP Football, I have no clue as to where that stands but my guess it's closer to being slim and rank in the have nots rather than what we'd hope. Give the middle finger to the NCAA rather than your alma mater.
He's still giving and supporting App. Athletics or not, any money going to App is going to help the school.
Agreed.

If shade is going to be thrown anyone's way, throw it at those who don't give anything to App.

Re: Spring Ball

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:45 pm
by BallantyneApp
AppSt94 wrote:
Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:38 am
Yes. He was having issues with transfer credits so he needs to finish at A&M and then he will be here as a Grad transfer.
This is the dumbest thing. TAMU is a good school. I’m sure if he was transferring to unc there wouldn’t be a problem.

Re: Spring Ball

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:51 pm
by Tru2ASU
AppSt94 wrote:
Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:34 pm
Tru2ASU wrote:
Wed Mar 01, 2023 4:30 pm
To me, it seems, App refuses to get involved in much of the NIL. Which is fine, but will be a hindrance if it takes years for the NCAA to reign in.
Technically speaking, App can’t get involved in NIL outside of speaking in generalities and working with donors to promote the need. The reality is that outside of pocket money for the athletes, there isn’t much opportunity for a huge payday on the mountain.
So, they couldn't work with a third party like most Universities and do things, such as signings, and video messages? When I asked, I was told they did not have the infrastructure, currently.