There was a Zoom call a couple of months ago with the YC members. At the end of the call, Doug Middleton got on and talked about the NIL collective and asked for any business owners to consider joining or using the athletes. That would constitute a third party involvement that you suggest. So it seems as though they have engaged and gotten involved. So a lack of traction doesn’t necessarily mean a refusal. I get the assumption that we aren’t pushing it based on results, but if the reason given is a lack of infrastructure, given our other issues with getting things organized, it doesn’t surprise me.Tru2ASU wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:51 pmSo, they couldn't work with a third party like most Universities and do things, such as signings, and video messages? When I asked, I was told they did not have the infrastructure, currently.
Here is the link to the fall sports streaming schedule.
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Updates on NIL talks are on the agenda for the Mountaineer tour, so fingers crossed.AppSt94 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:29 pmThere was a Zoom call a couple of months ago with the YC members. At the end of the call, Doug Middleton got on and talked about the NIL collective and asked for any business owners to consider joining or using the athletes. That would constitute a third party involvement that you suggest. So it seems as though they have engaged and gotten involved. So a lack of traction doesn’t necessarily mean a refusal. I get the assumption that we aren’t pushing it based on results, but if the reason given is a lack of infrastructure, given our other issues with getting things organized, it doesn’t surprise me.Tru2ASU wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:51 pmSo, they couldn't work with a third party like most Universities and do things, such as signings, and video messages? When I asked, I was told they did not have the infrastructure, currently.
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It seems like a great opportunity for the business school to offer internships. Let students be like acting agents for the players. Give them a desk and a phone. (This is how I started my career...a desk and a phone). Give the students/interns an Agent fee/commission for finding the deals for the players. The players could interview interns and decide on their agent.
If the players make it to the NFL....it will be very similar.
If a player at app is big time enough he could hire a professional agent with approval for commercials to run through APP. This is where App has to be easy to work with or hard to work with. I don't know what is best for the school. A trademark like AppState can be ruined with the wrong NIL commercial/spokesperson.
If the players make it to the NFL....it will be very similar.
If a player at app is big time enough he could hire a professional agent with approval for commercials to run through APP. This is where App has to be easy to work with or hard to work with. I don't know what is best for the school. A trademark like AppState can be ruined with the wrong NIL commercial/spokesperson.
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Great idea as long as the rules allow it. Win win.spacemonkey wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:14 pmIt seems like a great opportunity for the business school to offer internships. Let students be like acting agents for the players. Give them a desk and a phone. (This is how I started my career...a desk and a phone). Give the students/interns an Agent fee/commission for finding the deals for the players. The players could interview interns and decide on their agent.
If the players make it to the NFL....it will be very similar.
If a player at app is big time enough he could hire a professional agent with approval for commercials to run through APP. This is where App has to be easy to work with or hard to work with. I don't know what is best for the school. A trademark like AppState can be ruined with the wrong NIL commercial/spokesperson.
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Link to the NIL exchange/collective info.AppSt94 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:29 pmThere was a Zoom call a couple of months ago with the YC members. At the end of the call, Doug Middleton got on and talked about the NIL collective and asked for any business owners to consider joining or using the athletes. That would constitute a third party involvement that you suggest. So it seems as though they have engaged and gotten involved. So a lack of traction doesn’t necessarily mean a refusal. I get the assumption that we aren’t pushing it based on results, but if the reason given is a lack of infrastructure, given our other issues with getting things organized, it doesn’t surprise me.Tru2ASU wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:51 pmSo, they couldn't work with a third party like most Universities and do things, such as signings, and video messages? When I asked, I was told they did not have the infrastructure, currently.
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Saw NCAA prez Emmett left - Charlie Baker is in. Seems to have a good reputation. Interested to see what comes of this and all of the issues at the present time.
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Defense seems to be improving a lot already - especially up front - according to Clark's comments this week.Parks&RecAPP wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:31 amCan we get back to talking about spring practice? Any updates?
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We'll see. He said the same thing last year. At this point in spring ball, defense should be dominating and it doesn't seem to be the case... Could mean our offense is going to be really good. Could also mean our defense just has a ways to go.ASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 11:53 amDefense seems to be improving a lot already - especially up front - according to Clark's comments this week.Parks&RecAPP wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:31 amCan we get back to talking about spring practice? Any updates?
We do have significantly more length and size on the ends which definitely helps, but what Clark is saying right now is the same thing every coach says in spring ball.
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Where do you think the discrepancies on defense are at the moment to not be dominating?AppStateNews wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 11:57 amWe'll see. He said the same thing last year. At this point in spring ball, defense should be dominating and it doesn't seem to be the case... Could mean our offense is going to be really good. Could also mean our defense just has a ways to go.ASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 11:53 amDefense seems to be improving a lot already - especially up front - according to Clark's comments this week.Parks&RecAPP wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:31 amCan we get back to talking about spring practice? Any updates?
We do have significantly more length and size on the ends which definitely helps, but what Clark is saying right now is the same thing every coach says in spring ball.
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I'm not sure. I have not been to a practice yet this spring. Hoping to get to one next week. It's very possible they are dominating and Clark is just giving kudos to the offense for a confidence boost. All reports have shown it's pretty balanced so far though -- which, is concerning for me but I'm hopefully over thinking it.ASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 12:00 pmWhere do you think the discrepancies on defense are at the moment to not be dominating?AppStateNews wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 11:57 amWe'll see. He said the same thing last year. At this point in spring ball, defense should be dominating and it doesn't seem to be the case... Could mean our offense is going to be really good. Could also mean our defense just has a ways to go.ASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 11:53 amDefense seems to be improving a lot already - especially up front - according to Clark's comments this week.Parks&RecAPP wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:31 amCan we get back to talking about spring practice? Any updates?
We do have significantly more length and size on the ends which definitely helps, but what Clark is saying right now is the same thing every coach says in spring ball.
Every single coach is going to say "we look amazing. Have to fix some things, but we are really looking good" in spring ball.
Honestly, spring ball is more about weeding out the weak than anything. These sessions will show the coaches who the dawgs are. These sessions will show who is willing to do more than expected. These sessions will show the players and coaches who they can lean on throughout the season.
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While I like your thoughts to a degree, having undergrad students serve as agents is a bad idea to put it mildly. The level of legal knowledge that one should have to properly advise and counsel clients before signing contracts would be completely lacking in these interns. Not to mention the other aspects like taxation, labilities, etcs. The players that are wading into NIL need real professionals who can give real advise.spacemonkey wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:14 pmIt seems like a great opportunity for the business school to offer internships. Let students be like acting agents for the players. Give them a desk and a phone. (This is how I started my career...a desk and a phone). Give the students/interns an Agent fee/commission for finding the deals for the players. The players could interview interns and decide on their agent.
If the players make it to the NFL....it will be very similar.
If a player at app is big time enough he could hire a professional agent with approval for commercials to run through APP. This is where App has to be easy to work with or hard to work with. I don't know what is best for the school. A trademark like AppState can be ruined with the wrong NIL commercial/spokesperson.
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It happened.Parks&RecAPP wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:31 amCan we get back to talking about spring practice? Any updates?
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What exactly is a defense doing/allowed to do at this point in Spring practice that would indicate that they are ahead or behind? How much tackling is involved? I can see if receivers are burning defensive backs in drills- that would not be good. If defensive linemen are getting stuffed at the line in drills- also not good. How wide open does it get?AppStateNews wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 11:57 amWe'll see. He said the same thing last year. At this point in spring ball, defense should be dominating and it doesn't seem to be the case... Could mean our offense is going to be really good. Could also mean our defense just has a ways to go.ASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 11:53 amDefense seems to be improving a lot already - especially up front - according to Clark's comments this week.Parks&RecAPP wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:31 amCan we get back to talking about spring practice? Any updates?
We do have significantly more length and size on the ends which definitely helps, but what Clark is saying right now is the same thing every coach says in spring ball.
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I would assume the metrics in Spring Practice is at individual level. Did the guy do what he is supposed to technique-wise? Is his foot work and hand/arm work good. Stuff that coaches are watching as fundamentals. I am not a coach but thinking out loud along with some other’s points above. Who is working their butts off when not in spot light? That stuff.
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Don't be concerned.. yet. I was there. While the defense did pick off 3 or 4 passes, they were on plays designed to make the offense fail to see how the offense does on broken plays.
Overall, QBs looked solid. They made a couple bad decisions, but again, literally every offensive play was called to fail. So, 3-4 of the 50+ plays isn't bad considering you won't see that in a game.
Additionally, it's good film for the QBs to work through. Once the scripted fail plays were done, offense looked really good.
Our d line should not be as big of a concern this year. We have a few monsters out there. Depth in the middle could be a concern, but as of now, it looks good.
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Most likely test plays to see if they would work against certain defensive schemes. Different route combos, blocking schemes, etc...If the plays don't work against those schemes, we throw them out. Spring ball is a good time to test these so we know what works/doesnt work against certain defenses.
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Excellent feedback. thank you.AppStateNews wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:30 amDon't be concerned.. yet. I was there. While the defense did pick off 3 or 4 passes, they were on plays designed to make the offense fail to see how the offense does on broken plays.
Overall, QBs looked solid. They made a couple bad decisions, but again, literally every offensive play was called to fail. So, 3-4 of the 50+ plays isn't bad considering you won't see that in a game.
Additionally, it's good film for the QBs to work through. Once the scripted fail plays were done, offense looked really good.
Our d line should not be as big of a concern this year. We have a few monsters out there. Depth in the middle could be a concern, but as of now, it looks good.