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Renewing Season Football Tickets
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Yeah, I definitely would NOT drop my season ticket's and YC membership over no parking, just wanted some clarity.
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Yes I would likely have decided to not renew if the $1500 was required. The Yosef Club is fast forwarding past the point that I can keep up. Know reflection on those that can do it but I could not. It may soon come the time for a Twenty plus year member to step a side for those willing to pay. Wife and I are in our seventies and in good health but would not be willing to walk cross town or from Blowing Rock to get to the game.
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Completely understand and I didn’t have the intention to make you feel bad.dlh71 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:11 pmYes I would likely have decided to not renew if the $1500 was required. The Yosef Club is fast forwarding past the point that I can keep up. Know reflection on those that can do it but I could not. It may soon come the time for a Twenty plus year member to step a side for those willing to pay. Wife and I are in our seventies and in good health but would not be willing to walk cross town or from Blowing Rock to get to the game.
I guess my only question is why stop giving all together? There are so many other programs and student athletes aside from football that benefit from our generosity.
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I am not sure I completely agree with that. Why wouldn't a person who has given $500 a year for ten years get bumped for a first year donor who gives $3,500?
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$5000 still > $3500 but change your number to a $10,000 first year donor and i'm with you.appgrad95&97 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:18 pmI am not sure I completely agree with that. Why wouldn't a person who has given $500 a year for ten years get bumped for a first year donor who gives $3,500?
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Sure, but year two would be 7,000 compared to year eleven at 5,500.mike87 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 2:01 pm$5000 still > $3500 but change your number to a $10,000 first year donor and i'm with you.appgrad95&97 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:18 pmI am not sure I completely agree with that. Why wouldn't a person who has given $500 a year for ten years get bumped for a first year donor who gives $3,500?
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Bump them at year 2 then. I think math matters.appgrad95&97 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 2:02 pmSure, but year two would be 7,000 compared to year eleven at 5,500.mike87 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 2:01 pm$5000 still > $3500 but change your number to a $10,000 first year donor and i'm with you.appgrad95&97 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:18 pmI am not sure I completely agree with that. Why wouldn't a person who has given $500 a year for ten years get bumped for a first year donor who gives $3,500?
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You think it is fair to put a $500 donor ahead of a $3,500 one just because of a history of doing 500 a year?mike87 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 2:08 pmBump them at year 2 then. I think math matters.appgrad95&97 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 2:02 pmSure, but year two would be 7,000 compared to year eleven at 5,500.mike87 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 2:01 pm$5000 still > $3500 but change your number to a $10,000 first year donor and i'm with you.appgrad95&97 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:18 pmI am not sure I completely agree with that. Why wouldn't a person who has given $500 a year for ten years get bumped for a first year donor who gives $3,500?
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Parking is a commodity, not a perk. A $500 donor, regardless of length of time donating should not be in competition for a parking spot of a first time $3500 donor. Seniority, via priority points, should be an apples to apples determination.
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If we are worried about money coming in and I can see why that is an issue, I don't understand the breakdown of seat prices next to the $400 section on the "visitor" side. It would seem the sections next to the $400 section would be $250 instead of $175 especially as it corresponds to the seats and $250 sections over on the "home" side?
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Whether we like it or not it is all about money and how to get it. Money will trump loyalty every time. It does not matter what you did for us yesterday. It is all about what you can do for us today and tomorrow. Now that is a little more harsh than an organization would like to state it, but it is just the fact. We spent enough that it does not affect us now. I don't like it and will get priced out at some point but that is just the way it is. That's life as it is these days. We can't all have everything we want. If we could I would have played in the NHL(:
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For only $3500? I don't agree with that. A one-time $5000 maybe, or $10,000 sure but a history of $500 a year that totals $5000 is more valuable than a 1x $3500.
$3500 isn't swinging big enough.
And this is preferred parking, that's a perk. There's plenty of commodity parking all over town, comes with $20 and a hike.
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That $20 parking works both ways. Someone who gives $500 a year shouldn’t get parking closer to the stadium than someone giving $3500. Sorry, we are going to disagree.mike87 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 3:11 pmFor only $3500? I don't agree with that. A one-time $5000 maybe, or $10,000 sure but a history of $500 a year that totals $5000 is more valuable than a 1x $3500.
$3500 isn't swinging big enough.
And this is preferred parking, that's a perk. There's plenty of commodity parking all over town, comes with $20 and a hike.
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If someone is investing $3,500 on parking, there is a good chance they are not only doing it one year. I'd replace an annual $500 donor with an annual $3,500 donor all day every day. Maybe the donor is only there for 4 years. That's 28 years to break even with the $500 donor.mike87 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 3:11 pmFor only $3500? I don't agree with that. A one-time $5000 maybe, or $10,000 sure but a history of $500 a year that totals $5000 is more valuable than a 1x $3500.
$3500 isn't swinging big enough.
And this is preferred parking, that's a perk. There's plenty of commodity parking all over town, comes with $20 and a hike.
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yeah, we disagree. Once the $3500 guy passes the $500 guy in cumulative giving I agree. I think though, if I walked in with $3500 my expectation wouldn't be to surpass the guy who has given $5000. Just like $10,000 doesn't pass $20,000. The new guy is benefiting from the old guy's past support, make him pass the old guy's financial investment. That's just me though.
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The priority points system is already weighted towards current year giving and future year pledges.
Once the donors equate to the same points it works out, which are the examples thus far.
However today parking lots are first determined by current giving level and then sorted by points.
You could have a 30 year donor that gave $1,000 for 10 years, $1,500 for 10 years, and $2,500 the last ten years get jumped by a $3,500 donor. That is where the system breaks down.
Once the donors equate to the same points it works out, which are the examples thus far.
However today parking lots are first determined by current giving level and then sorted by points.
You could have a 30 year donor that gave $1,000 for 10 years, $1,500 for 10 years, and $2,500 the last ten years get jumped by a $3,500 donor. That is where the system breaks down.
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The pledged donations are a joke and shouldn't count for anything.Saint3333 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 5:50 pmThe priority points system is already weighted towards current year giving and future year pledges.
Once the donors equate to the same points it works out, which are the examples thus far.
However today parking lots are first determined by current giving level and then sorted by points.
You could have a 30 year donor that gave $1,000 for 10 years, $1,500 for 10 years, and $2,500 the last ten years get jumped by a $3,500 donor. That is where the system breaks down.
I love some AppState but I loved it just as much at the FCS level..I was all for moving up but I think we can compete without spending a fortune. There are people willing to coach football for less money and going 6 - 6 with true "college athletes" is just fine with me. Growth is not always good.
I have watched so many ministers talk about needing to grow the (Local) church. A church with no debt can do just fine with 20 believers. A college can do just fine with people that want to be there. Money is not the answer to everything.
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Late to the conversation... only read a few pages.... I'll catch up on it later. Seems to me that a sliding scale would have been the way to go. Using the West side as an example, "x" amount gets you 1 seat in 204, 2 seats in 203/205, etc... "1.5x" amount gwts you 1 seat in 204, 3 seats in 203/105, etc... "2x" amount gets you 2 in 204, 4 in 203/205, etc... Alright. I'll keep reading the thread but I wanted to toss that out there if it isn't already.
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Form above "I love some AppState but I loved it just as much at the FCS level..I was all for moving up but I think we can compete without spending a fortune. There are people willing to coach football for less money and going 6 - 6 with true "college athletes" is just fine with me. Growth is not always good."
Ahh, no we do not..going 6-6 for an extended period of time will decimate the program to where there is zero support. If you want to not pay coaches and love football...maybe supporting the the local high school team is the way to go... Ship.has sailed. We are D-1 and that is not changing. If we want to keep coaches for an extended period of time, got to show them the money. .it is the reality of the world of college football. Will we lose some really good coaches to P5, sure, however, be nice to keep them 3 to 5 years if we can pay halfway decent. App. St. just happens to be in a very coveted geographic location...living costs have grown exponentially since pandemic where workers can reside anywhere...that impacts our coaches decision making process to stay or go...
There was an article in Triangle Business Journal earlier this week titled Mountain Towns..it was focused on changes in cost of living in mountain towns out West due to changes in cost of living from the migration from large cities as many do not have to reside to work in the city. As I was reading, I started thinking...this is Boone, Blowing Rock, The Jeffersons, Banner Elk, etc. If cost of living goes up exponentially, you got to pay to entice someone to come to the mountains to coach. It is what it is.
Ahh, no we do not..going 6-6 for an extended period of time will decimate the program to where there is zero support. If you want to not pay coaches and love football...maybe supporting the the local high school team is the way to go... Ship.has sailed. We are D-1 and that is not changing. If we want to keep coaches for an extended period of time, got to show them the money. .it is the reality of the world of college football. Will we lose some really good coaches to P5, sure, however, be nice to keep them 3 to 5 years if we can pay halfway decent. App. St. just happens to be in a very coveted geographic location...living costs have grown exponentially since pandemic where workers can reside anywhere...that impacts our coaches decision making process to stay or go...
There was an article in Triangle Business Journal earlier this week titled Mountain Towns..it was focused on changes in cost of living in mountain towns out West due to changes in cost of living from the migration from large cities as many do not have to reside to work in the city. As I was reading, I started thinking...this is Boone, Blowing Rock, The Jeffersons, Banner Elk, etc. If cost of living goes up exponentially, you got to pay to entice someone to come to the mountains to coach. It is what it is.
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Originally, the middle three sections in front of the boxes were $400. Then, they changed it this year to only the middle section.ASU84 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 2:21 pmIf we are worried about money coming in and I can see why that is an issue, I don't understand the breakdown of seat prices next to the $400 section on the "visitor" side. It would seem the sections next to the $400 section would be $250 instead of $175 especially as it corresponds to the seats and $250 sections over on the "home" side?