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Re: Players Transferring AWAY
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 5:02 pm
by JMappfan5
Nothing crippling so far!!! We are very fortunate compared to several other schools.
Re: Players Transferring AWAY
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 6:26 pm
by boonetown1
311neers wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 1:59 pm
AtlAppMan wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 1:55 pm
How many of these kids going OUT have significant playing time? I know some may be missed, others may never see playing field and just want to finish with somebody on the field and it won't likely happen at APP. Just trying to gauge relative impact to our team.
Christian Wells - WR - Started games
Luke Smith - OL- Started games
KeSean Brown - LB - got some decent PT over the years
Jordan Mitchell - LB - I believe this is Jordan Helig, dont think we have a mitchell. Mostly was special teams whole career, some depth PT on defense.
Kaleb Dawson - DB- Saw some minutes
Jonathan Streeter - DB - never played
Isaac Johnson - DB- never played
Jamar Rucks - DL- role guy, saw minimal PT.
Losing some at every level. Not our best players but definitely lose some starters and depth.
I would add this to these guys though.
Christian Wells - WR - Started games - got passed over for his starting spot.
Luke Smith - OL- Started games - seemed to get passed by the younger guys.
KeSean Brown - LB - got some decent PT over the years - I liked kesean, and think he could have contributed, but he largely got PT (outside of ST) because of injuries
Re: Players Transferring AWAY
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:48 pm
by AppSt94
bigdaddyg wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 3:04 pm
There should be a hard and fast rule that says if anyone enters his name in the portal he's gone. This isn't like basketball where stud players can "test the waters " of the NBA and return. Heard some guy's talking about it on the radio. Let's say a Maye puts his name out there to see how much NIL he could get from a bigger program but doesn't get what he thinks he deserves then says "I'll just stay here". Programs can't be held hostage by players. It's really getting jacked up
Such a rule essentially exist. Once you enter the portal, you are no longer bound to your transferring school and they to you. The team is under no obligation to hold a spot for you.
Re: Players Transferring AWAY
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 8:02 pm
by AppStFan1
boonetown1 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 6:26 pm
311neers wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 1:59 pm
AtlAppMan wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 1:55 pm
How many of these kids going OUT have significant playing time? I know some may be missed, others may never see playing field and just want to finish with somebody on the field and it won't likely happen at APP. Just trying to gauge relative impact to our team.
Christian Wells - WR - Started games
Luke Smith - OL- Started games
KeSean Brown - LB - got some decent PT over the years
Jordan Mitchell - LB - I believe this is Jordan Helig, dont think we have a mitchell. Mostly was special teams whole career, some depth PT on defense.
Kaleb Dawson - DB- Saw some minutes
Jonathan Streeter - DB - never played
Isaac Johnson - DB- never played
Jamar Rucks - DL- role guy, saw minimal PT.
Losing some at every level. Not our best players but definitely lose some starters and depth.
I would add this to these guys though.
Christian Wells - WR - Started games - got passed over for his starting spot.
Luke Smith - OL- Started games - seemed to get passed by the younger guys.
KeSean Brown - LB - got some decent PT over the years - I liked kesean, and think he could have contributed, but he largely got PT (outside of ST) because of injuries
I bet these guys will end up being like others we have who could not quite start or maintain spot and end up being stars at the FCS level. We have several who were named All-Conference the last couple weeks in FCS this year.
Re: Players Transferring AWAY
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 8:04 pm
by AppStFan1
AppSt94 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:48 pm
bigdaddyg wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 3:04 pm
There should be a hard and fast rule that says if anyone enters his name in the portal he's gone. This isn't like basketball where stud players can "test the waters " of the NBA and return. Heard some guy's talking about it on the radio. Let's say a Maye puts his name out there to see how much NIL he could get from a bigger program but doesn't get what he thinks he deserves then says "I'll just stay here". Programs can't be held hostage by players. It's really getting jacked up
Such a rule essentially exist. Once you enter the portal, you are no longer bound to your transferring school and they to you. The team is under no obligation to hold a spot for you.
The way it should be. Schools should not be held hostage by players. If players can't be forced to stay 4 years then a school can't be forced to hold their spot if they enter the portal. That is completely fair.
Re: Players Transferring AWAY
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 8:12 pm
by AppState89
311neers wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:41 pm
ASU85Grad wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:32 pm
When someone enters the portal, they are off the team immediately, and cannot come back unless asked. Correct?
It probably varies by school/coach or player. Say Drake maye entered portal to see if UGA or Bama bit. I'd have a hard time believing UNC wouldn't let him back in if he changed his mind. However, I feel that Clark might just cut ties if you enter the portal at APP. If you don't want to be here, there's the door type of situation and you can't come back.
Rumor is Drake May will enter the portal.
Re: Players Transferring AWAY
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 8:40 pm
by GSUwasGump’sFallbackSchool
AppState89 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 8:12 pm
311neers wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:41 pm
ASU85Grad wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:32 pm
When someone enters the portal, they are off the team immediately, and cannot come back unless asked. Correct?
It probably varies by school/coach or player. Say Drake maye entered portal to see if UGA or Bama bit. I'd have a hard time believing UNC wouldn't let him back in if he changed his mind. However, I feel that Clark might just cut ties if you enter the portal at APP. If you don't want to be here, there's the door type of situation and you can't come back.
Rumor is Drake May will enter the portal.
*sigh* sorry Burger, but I guess we’ll have to take in Drake with open arms
Re: Players Transferring AWAY
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 9:26 pm
by NattyBumppo'sRevenge
AppState89 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 8:12 pm
311neers wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:41 pm
ASU85Grad wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:32 pm
When someone enters the portal, they are off the team immediately, and cannot come back unless asked. Correct?
It probably varies by school/coach or player. Say Drake maye entered portal to see if UGA or Bama bit. I'd have a hard time believing UNC wouldn't let him back in if he changed his mind. However, I feel that Clark might just cut ties if you enter the portal at APP. If you don't want to be here, there's the door type of situation and you can't come back.
Rumor is Drake May will enter the portal.
Well, he has lost 3 in a row.
Re: Players Transferring AWAY
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 9:31 pm
by AppState89
GSUwasGump’sFallbackSchool wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 8:40 pm
AppState89 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 8:12 pm
311neers wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:41 pm
ASU85Grad wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:32 pm
When someone enters the portal, they are off the team immediately, and cannot come back unless asked. Correct?
It probably varies by school/coach or player. Say Drake maye entered portal to see if UGA or Bama bit. I'd have a hard time believing UNC wouldn't let him back in if he changed his mind. However, I feel that Clark might just cut ties if you enter the portal at APP. If you don't want to be here, there's the door type of situation and you can't come back.
Rumor is Drake May will enter the portal.
*sigh* sorry Burger, but I guess we’ll have to take in Drake with open arms
Ah NO!!! 311neers wrote about Drake entering the portal to see if UGA or Bama bite. They use Drake as an example and I hear Drake will enter the portal. This has NOTHING to do with Burger at all. We DON'T need another QB, we have Burger and need to stick with him.
Re: Players Transferring AWAY
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 9:51 pm
by NattyBumppo'sRevenge
If Drake came here, he’d get to play in our Super Bowl next year
Re: Players Transferring AWAY
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 9:53 pm
by AppinVA
NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 9:51 pm
If Drake came here, he’d get to play in our Super Bowl next year
If he can beat out Burger.
Re: Players Transferring AWAY
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 8:58 am
by coachprouty
311neers wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 1:41 pm
Jourdan Helig in portal according to 247.
After seeing him standing next to the heater at Marshall, I know he's looking to get in somewhere warmer.
Re: Players Transferring AWAY
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:01 am
by appchicago
You guys keep saying "Drake" and I keep picturing... Drake. He did look good in the old Gorton's Fisherman logo windshirt.
Re: Players Transferring AWAY
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:07 am
by BallantyneApp
AppState89 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 8:12 pm
311neers wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:41 pm
ASU85Grad wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:32 pm
When someone enters the portal, they are off the team immediately, and cannot come back unless asked. Correct?
It probably varies by school/coach or player. Say Drake maye entered portal to see if UGA or Bama bit. I'd have a hard time believing UNC wouldn't let him back in if he changed his mind. However, I feel that Clark might just cut ties if you enter the portal at APP. If you don't want to be here, there's the door type of situation and you can't come back.
Rumor is Drake May will enter the portal.
Didn’t he already eschew Bama for unc? Now that he’s a he is a type player, he could prob get $1MM+ NIL though before going pro. Texas A&M?
Re: Players Transferring AWAY
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:11 am
by Appmountaineers19
BallantyneApp wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:07 am
AppState89 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 8:12 pm
311neers wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:41 pm
ASU85Grad wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:32 pm
When someone enters the portal, they are off the team immediately, and cannot come back unless asked. Correct?
It probably varies by school/coach or player. Say Drake maye entered portal to see if UGA or Bama bit. I'd have a hard time believing UNC wouldn't let him back in if he changed his mind. However, I feel that Clark might just cut ties if you enter the portal at APP. If you don't want to be here, there's the door type of situation and you can't come back.
Rumor is Drake May will enter the portal.
Didn’t he already eschew Bama for unc? Now that he’s a he is a type player, he could prob get $1MM+ NIL though before going pro. Texas A&M?
Saw A&M lost about half of their recruiting class from last year to the portal. Took the $$ and ran
Re: Players Transferring AWAY
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:16 am
by 311neers
Appmountaineers19 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:11 am
BallantyneApp wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:07 am
AppState89 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 8:12 pm
311neers wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:41 pm
ASU85Grad wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:32 pm
When someone enters the portal, they are off the team immediately, and cannot come back unless asked. Correct?
It probably varies by school/coach or player. Say Drake maye entered portal to see if UGA or Bama bit. I'd have a hard time believing UNC wouldn't let him back in if he changed his mind. However, I feel that Clark might just cut ties if you enter the portal at APP. If you don't want to be here, there's the door type of situation and you can't come back.
Rumor is Drake May will enter the portal.
Didn’t he already eschew Bama for unc? Now that he’s a he is a type player, he could prob get $1MM+ NIL though before going pro. Texas A&M?
Saw A&M lost about half of their recruiting class from last year to the portal. Took the $$ and ran
A&M is toast. Fraud of a coach and program. If maye is smart he would just walk to UGA. Stetson makes $2M, just won a natty, might win another and is heisman finalist. That team is guaranteed a playoff and you get brock bowers returning. Win win for maye. Do we have them on the schedule soon? Would be a shame if we went down to athens and beat them
Re: Players Transferring AWAY
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:34 am
by BallantyneApp
Appmountaineers19 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:11 am
BallantyneApp wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:07 am
AppState89 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 8:12 pm
311neers wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:41 pm
ASU85Grad wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:32 pm
When someone enters the portal, they are off the team immediately, and cannot come back unless asked. Correct?
It probably varies by school/coach or player. Say Drake maye entered portal to see if UGA or Bama bit. I'd have a hard time believing UNC wouldn't let him back in if he changed his mind. However, I feel that Clark might just cut ties if you enter the portal at APP. If you don't want to be here, there's the door type of situation and you can't come back.
Rumor is Drake May will enter the portal.
Didn’t he already eschew Bama for unc? Now that he’s a he is a type player, he could prob get $1MM+ NIL though before going pro. Texas A&M?
Saw A&M lost about half of their recruiting class from last year to the portal. Took the $$ and ran
Lol getting exactly what they deserve. It’s sad that CFB has devolved to this, but you can’t blame the players for taking what’s offered to them when coaches make $5MM+ and leave at the drop of a hat and give them a text.
Re: Players Transferring AWAY
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 10:31 am
by GSUwasGump’sFallbackSchool
appchicago wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:01 am
You guys keep saying "Drake" and I keep picturing... Drake. He did look good in the old Gorton's Fisherman logo windshirt.
They did a skit about Drake on SNL and I pointed at the screen like the DiCaprio meme when they had the pic of him in App gear front and center lol
Re: Players Transferring AWAY
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 10:52 am
by spacemonkey
You can't blame Drake...If I had a way to get away from having to hang with that chapel hill crowd I would take it in a heart beat.
Re: Players Transferring AWAY
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 10:59 am
by goapps93
spacemonkey wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 10:52 am
You can't blame Drake...If I had a way to get away from having to hang with that chapel hill crowd I would take it in a heart beat.
Maye is one of the Chapel Hill crowd. Who is stirring the pot with rumors that he is considering a transfer? 247Sports? His comments Saturday, for what they're worth, indicate he is happy to stay at UNC.
On a slightly different note, when can players be contacted? I know it's been asked before. Does a player have to be in the portal in order to be contacted? I know there is plenty of unofficial contact but what is the rule for official contact?
