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Players Transferring AWAY
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:38 am
by ASUFan4863
Today marks the official opening of the transfer portal. Some are predicting it to be the biggest portal yet. Figured I would start this to lay out the players who have officially announced they are transferring AWAY from App. I would expect a complete overhaul of the DB group next season. I wouldn't be shocked to see 1 or 2 more "bigger" names announce.
Christian Wells - WR
Luke Smith - OL
KeSean Brown - LB
Jordan Mitchell - LB
Kaleb Dawson - DB
Jonathan Streeter - DB
Isaac Johnson - DB
Jamar Rucks - DL
Re: Players Transferring AWAY
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:56 am
by 311neers
How many kids do we lose to eligibility/graduation? Are we about to lose 30+ kids total?
Re: Players Transferring AWAY
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:57 am
by appgrad2010
Once again, not all are leaving because they decided to do so. Some as with any program were toxic to the culture or just were told hey, scholarship not being renewed because not producing what is needed. Others in fact leave on their own OR realize they aren't going to crack the rotation to play much initially.
Re: Players Transferring AWAY
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:02 am
by yosef69
311neers wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:56 am
How many kids do we lose to eligibility/graduation? Are we about to lose 30+ kids total?
Thought I heard 28 seniors…
Re: Players Transferring AWAY
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:11 am
by ASUFan4863
appgrad2010 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:57 am
Once again, not all are leaving because they decided to do so. Some as with any program were toxic to the culture or just were told hey, scholarship not being renewed because not producing what is needed. Others in fact leave on their own OR realize they aren't going to crack the rotation to play much initially.
No doubt. Players leave/get pushed out every season for that reason. I think this somewhat lackluster list proves that the locker room is "not lost" as many claim on here and social media.
Re: Players Transferring AWAY
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:14 am
by ASUFan4863
yosef69 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:02 am
311neers wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:56 am
How many kids do we lose to eligibility/graduation? Are we about to lose 30+ kids total?
Thought I heard 28 seniors…
Yeah, 28 seniors per the athletics website. Number will be close to 40 of people leaving. That is why development is being preached so much right now.
Re: Players Transferring AWAY
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:22 am
by 311neers
ASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:14 am
yosef69 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:02 am
311neers wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:56 am
How many kids do we lose to eligibility/graduation? Are we about to lose 30+ kids total?
Thought I heard 28 seniors…
Yeah, 28 seniors per the athletics website. Number will be close to 40 of people leaving. That is why development is being preached so much right now.
So +-40 out and currently 14 commits (if they sign). Whew, going to be a whole new team next year. Currently a net -26 players.... Pound the phones!
Re: Players Transferring AWAY
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 1:41 pm
by 311neers
Jourdan Helig in portal according to 247.
Re: Players Transferring AWAY
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 1:55 pm
by AtlAppMan
How many of these kids going OUT have significant playing time? I know some may be missed, others may never see playing field and just want to finish with somebody on the field and it won't likely happen at APP. Just trying to gauge relative impact to our team.
Re: Players Transferring AWAY
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 1:59 pm
by 311neers
AtlAppMan wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 1:55 pm
How many of these kids going OUT have significant playing time? I know some may be missed, others may never see playing field and just want to finish with somebody on the field and it won't likely happen at APP. Just trying to gauge relative impact to our team.
Christian Wells - WR - Started games
Luke Smith - OL- Started games
KeSean Brown - LB - got some decent PT over the years
Jordan Mitchell - LB - I believe this is Jordan Helig, dont think we have a mitchell. Mostly was special teams whole career, some depth PT on defense.
Kaleb Dawson - DB- Saw some minutes
Jonathan Streeter - DB - never played
Isaac Johnson - DB- never played
Jamar Rucks - DL- role guy, saw minimal PT.
Losing some at every level. Not our best players but definitely lose some starters and depth.
Re: Players Transferring AWAY
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:03 pm
by Mjohn1988
311neers wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 1:41 pm
Jourdan Helig in portal according to 247.
Hate that, he made some good plays. I was seeing him as a possible “sleeper”. Thought he might be a good surprise next year.
Re: Players Transferring AWAY
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:06 pm
by 311neers
Mjohn1988 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:03 pm
311neers wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 1:41 pm
Jourdan Helig in portal according to 247.
Hate that, he made some good plays. I was seeing him as a possible “sleeper”. Thought he might be a good surprise next year.
Yea KeSean, Wells, Smith and Helig contributed over the years for sure. I still haven't seen Helig post or anyone say he's in portal but 247 portal page has him in it.
Re: Players Transferring AWAY
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:16 pm
by goapps93
311neers wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:06 pm
Mjohn1988 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:03 pm
311neers wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 1:41 pm
Jourdan Helig in portal according to 247.
Hate that, he made some good plays. I was seeing him as a possible “sleeper”. Thought he might be a good surprise next year.
Yea KeSean, Wells, Smith and Helig contributed over the years for sure. I still haven't seen Helig post or anyone say he's in portal but 247 portal page has him in it.
He’s already been removed from roster on app state sports.com.
Re: Players Transferring AWAY
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:32 pm
by ASU85Grad
When someone enters the portal, they are off the team immediately, and cannot come back unless asked. Correct?
Re: Players Transferring AWAY
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:41 pm
by 311neers
ASU85Grad wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:32 pm
When someone enters the portal, they are off the team immediately, and cannot come back unless asked. Correct?
It probably varies by school/coach or player. Say Drake maye entered portal to see if UGA or Bama bit. I'd have a hard time believing UNC wouldn't let him back in if he changed his mind. However, I feel that Clark might just cut ties if you enter the portal at APP. If you don't want to be here, there's the door type of situation and you can't come back.
Re: Players Transferring AWAY
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 3:04 pm
by bigdaddyg
There should be a hard and fast rule that says if anyone enters his name in the portal he's gone. This isn't like basketball where stud players can "test the waters " of the NBA and return. Heard some guy's talking about it on the radio. Let's say a Maye puts his name out there to see how much NIL he could get from a bigger program but doesn't get what he thinks he deserves then says "I'll just stay here". Programs can't be held hostage by players. It's really getting jacked up
Re: Players Transferring AWAY
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 3:51 pm
by NattyBumppo'sRevenge
Isn’t it odd that it’s called NIL when nil means zero?
Re: Players Transferring AWAY
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 3:57 pm
by AppSt94
311neers wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 1:59 pm
AtlAppMan wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 1:55 pm
How many of these kids going OUT have significant playing time? I know some may be missed, others may never see playing field and just want to finish with somebody on the field and it won't likely happen at APP. Just trying to gauge relative impact to our team.
Christian Wells - WR - Started games
Luke Smith - OL- Started games
KeSean Brown - LB - got some decent PT over the years
Jordan Mitchell - LB - I believe this is Jordan Helig, dont think we have a mitchell. Mostly was special teams whole career, some depth PT on defense.
Kaleb Dawson - DB- Saw some minutes
Jonathan Streeter - DB - never played
Isaac Johnson - DB- never played
Jamar Rucks - DL- role guy, saw minimal PT.
Losing some at every level. Not our best players but definitely lose some starters and depth.
Jordan Mitchell is correct. He announced last week. Jordan Helig is a separate individual.
Re: Players Transferring AWAY
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 4:09 pm
by 311neers
AppSt94 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 3:57 pm
311neers wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 1:59 pm
AtlAppMan wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 1:55 pm
How many of these kids going OUT have significant playing time? I know some may be missed, others may never see playing field and just want to finish with somebody on the field and it won't likely happen at APP. Just trying to gauge relative impact to our team.
Christian Wells - WR - Started games
Luke Smith - OL- Started games
KeSean Brown - LB - got some decent PT over the years
Jordan Mitchell - LB - I believe this is Jordan Helig, dont think we have a mitchell. Mostly was special teams whole career, some depth PT on defense.
Kaleb Dawson - DB- Saw some minutes
Jonathan Streeter - DB - never played
Isaac Johnson - DB- never played
Jamar Rucks - DL- role guy, saw minimal PT.
Losing some at every level. Not our best players but definitely lose some starters and depth.
Jordan Mitchell is correct. He announced last week. Jordan Helig is a separate individual.
Ah I see, hasn't been on a website roster since 2020, wasn't on 2021 for some reason.
Re: Players Transferring AWAY
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 4:13 pm
by Pikapp79
ASU85Grad wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:32 pm
When someone enters the portal, they are off the team immediately, and cannot come back unless asked. Correct?
Depends on the coach.