Here is the link to the fall sports streaming schedule.

https://appstatesports.com/news/2023/8/ ... edule.aspx

12 team playoff 2024

User avatar
appdaze
Posts: 4284
Joined: Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:08 pm
Has thanked: 89 times
Been thanked: 1418 times

12 team playoff 2024

Unread post by appdaze » Wed Nov 30, 2022 10:15 pm


fjblair
Posts: 3280
Joined: Mon Nov 26, 2007 2:03 pm
Has thanked: 1041 times
Been thanked: 425 times

Re: 12 team playoff 2024

Unread post by fjblair » Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:24 am

They finally gave the Rose Bowl an ultimatum, get on board or get left behind.

yosef69
Posts: 1967
Joined: Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:26 pm
School: Appalachian State
Has thanked: 273 times
Been thanked: 1136 times

Re: 12 team playoff 2024

Unread post by yosef69 » Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:43 am

2 years to get our house in order!

ASUFan4863
Posts: 515
Joined: Mon Sep 09, 2019 10:57 am
School: Appalachian State
Has thanked: 147 times
Been thanked: 327 times

Re: 12 team playoff 2024

Unread post by ASUFan4863 » Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:19 am

This changes the game for G5. Recruiting, coaching, finances. Great move for all of CFB. The only people against it will be the top tier SEC schools. Makes you wonder how it would affect coaches with P5 desires. Money may be more but you could have a better shot at the playoff in the G5.

spacemonkey
Posts: 1162
Joined: Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:01 pm
School: Appalachian State
Has thanked: 119 times
Been thanked: 497 times

Re: 12 team playoff 2024

Unread post by spacemonkey » Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:34 am

I think you could see some new reverse conference alignment. If the new contract says the top 6 conferences you may see some schools get more local (ACC). You don't have to be better than the SEC just better than the AAC and Sunbelt. I could see ND, UNC, Duke, Wake, NC State, Virginia, Stanford, Vanderbilt, Indiana, Georgia Tech making a league of like minds academically. This league could easily get two teams and VERY GOOD shot of 1 every year (6th best league) and keep their academic standards high.

bigdaddyg
Posts: 5832
Joined: Wed Sep 24, 2014 1:08 pm
School: Appalachian State
Has thanked: 15 times
Been thanked: 2474 times

Re: 12 team playoff 2024

Unread post by bigdaddyg » Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:59 am

I like to view some of these sports deals in terms of ROI. For example the Dodgers and Yankees have ridiculously high payrolls but they have lucrative TV deals so it's not a huge deal to spend the money. If one of them wins the WS do they really make a lot of money from the win itself? Outside of their immediate markets there aren't a ton of fans who buy stuff or pay to watch games. Mid level teams obviously can't pay huge salaries and even if one of them goes on a crazy roll and wins the Series they ultimately probably lose money.

The big college teams in big conferences reap the benefits of television deals so the schools who generally don't really compete still get paid. What would be the actual payout to a school who makes the playoff? I'd like to think that your average G5 from the Belt, MAC, CUSA, Mtn West or even the new AAC would not make humongous money with a playoff spot and schools would have to up the bonuses for coaches. Theoretically how much net benefit would App see by sliding in to a playoff (assume a one and done)? For any G5 to make it that far they have to get through a CCG hopefully without serious injury and have the depth to face a tough opponent in the playoffs. Hope it works out but realistically it's still going to be tough and we all know the powers that be will try to screw the little guy.

User avatar
AppWyo
Posts: 540
Joined: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:25 am
School: Appalachian State
Has thanked: 9 times
Been thanked: 313 times

Re: 12 team playoff 2024

Unread post by AppWyo » Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:25 am

I believe that no P5 will want to play a G5 in the playoffs, because it may expose how much of a fraud they really are. Just ask Texas A&M how they were a playoff contender until Appalachian left College Station.

t4pizza
Posts: 4862
Joined: Sun Oct 26, 2008 11:00 am
School: Appalachian State
Has thanked: 2365 times
Been thanked: 1733 times

Re: 12 team playoff 2024

Unread post by t4pizza » Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:21 pm

ASUFan4863 wrote:
Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:19 am
This changes the game for G5. Recruiting, coaching, finances. Great move for all of CFB. The only people against it will be the top tier SEC schools. Makes you wonder how it would affect coaches with P5 desires. Money may be more but you could have a better shot at the playoff in the G5.
The SEC is the one that was pushing this from the beginning. Had it been up to them we would have had 12 teams already. The other conferences are the ones that got in the way. It was only after them seeing how quickly they would become irrelevant (after USC, UCLA left Pac12) that everyone else got on board. The SEC will get 3-4 in annually, why on earth would you think they would be against that?

t4pizza
Posts: 4862
Joined: Sun Oct 26, 2008 11:00 am
School: Appalachian State
Has thanked: 2365 times
Been thanked: 1733 times

Re: 12 team playoff 2024

Unread post by t4pizza » Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:23 pm

spacemonkey wrote:
Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:34 am
I think you could see some new reverse conference alignment. If the new contract says the top 6 conferences you may see some schools get more local (ACC). You don't have to be better than the SEC just better than the AAC and Sunbelt. I could see ND, UNC, Duke, Wake, NC State, Virginia, Stanford, Vanderbilt, Indiana, Georgia Tech making a league of like minds academically. This league could easily get two teams and VERY GOOD shot of 1 every year (6th best league) and keep their academic standards high.
The ACC teams are stuck and can't move anywhere due to their grant of rights. And why on earth would Vandy ever leave the SEC and that huge paycheck they get? Same goes for Indiana. Money talks and the SEC and Big10 have it so no team will leave them in the foreseeable future and the ACC is just stuck unless they find a way to expand.

bigdaddyg
Posts: 5832
Joined: Wed Sep 24, 2014 1:08 pm
School: Appalachian State
Has thanked: 15 times
Been thanked: 2474 times

Re: 12 team playoff 2024

Unread post by bigdaddyg » Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:29 pm

t4pizza wrote:
Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:23 pm
spacemonkey wrote:
Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:34 am
I think you could see some new reverse conference alignment. If the new contract says the top 6 conferences you may see some schools get more local (ACC). You don't have to be better than the SEC just better than the AAC and Sunbelt. I could see ND, UNC, Duke, Wake, NC State, Virginia, Stanford, Vanderbilt, Indiana, Georgia Tech making a league of like minds academically. This league could easily get two teams and VERY GOOD shot of 1 every year (6th best league) and keep their academic standards high.
The ACC teams are stuck and can't move anywhere due to their grant of rights. And why on earth would Vandy ever leave the SEC and that huge paycheck they get? Same goes for Indiana. Money talks and the SEC and Big10 have it so no team will leave them in the foreseeable future and the ACC is just stuck unless they find a way to expand.
The top teams in those conferences don't want any of the perennial bottom feeders to leave. Those are typically easier wins. Hard to really see 3-4 SEC teams make if there are 8 automatic qualifiers out of 12. They will still beat up on each other and you will have an LSU deal- really good but 3 maybe 4 losses.

t4pizza
Posts: 4862
Joined: Sun Oct 26, 2008 11:00 am
School: Appalachian State
Has thanked: 2365 times
Been thanked: 1733 times

Re: 12 team playoff 2024

Unread post by t4pizza » Thu Dec 01, 2022 2:37 pm

bigdaddyg wrote:
Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:29 pm
t4pizza wrote:
Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:23 pm
spacemonkey wrote:
Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:34 am
I think you could see some new reverse conference alignment. If the new contract says the top 6 conferences you may see some schools get more local (ACC). You don't have to be better than the SEC just better than the AAC and Sunbelt. I could see ND, UNC, Duke, Wake, NC State, Virginia, Stanford, Vanderbilt, Indiana, Georgia Tech making a league of like minds academically. This league could easily get two teams and VERY GOOD shot of 1 every year (6th best league) and keep their academic standards high.
The ACC teams are stuck and can't move anywhere due to their grant of rights. And why on earth would Vandy ever leave the SEC and that huge paycheck they get? Same goes for Indiana. Money talks and the SEC and Big10 have it so no team will leave them in the foreseeable future and the ACC is just stuck unless they find a way to expand.
The top teams in those conferences don't want any of the perennial bottom feeders to leave. Those are typically easier wins. Hard to really see 3-4 SEC teams make if there are 8 automatic qualifiers out of 12. They will still beat up on each other and you will have an LSU deal- really good but 3 maybe 4 losses.
There will only be 6 automatic qualifiers and 6 at large. Each of the top 6 ranked conference champs will be auto qualifiers. the rest will be up to the committee. Just look at this year, if we were at 12, the SEC would get Georgia, Bama, Tennessee and maybe LSU depending on how they finish up against Georgia. The Big10 would probably get 3 in with Michigan, Ohio State and Penn State.

appfanjj
Posts: 957
Joined: Sat Aug 11, 2012 9:34 am
School: Appalachian State
Has thanked: 1122 times
Been thanked: 406 times

Re: 12 team playoff 2024

Unread post by appfanjj » Thu Dec 01, 2022 3:15 pm

Something meaningful to play for. Hope we will be ready to take advantage of it along with the rest of of the SBC.

bigdaddyg
Posts: 5832
Joined: Wed Sep 24, 2014 1:08 pm
School: Appalachian State
Has thanked: 15 times
Been thanked: 2474 times

Re: 12 team playoff 2024

Unread post by bigdaddyg » Thu Dec 01, 2022 3:34 pm

t4pizza wrote:
Thu Dec 01, 2022 2:37 pm
bigdaddyg wrote:
Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:29 pm
t4pizza wrote:
Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:23 pm
spacemonkey wrote:
Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:34 am
I think you could see some new reverse conference alignment. If the new contract says the top 6 conferences you may see some schools get more local (ACC). You don't have to be better than the SEC just better than the AAC and Sunbelt. I could see ND, UNC, Duke, Wake, NC State, Virginia, Stanford, Vanderbilt, Indiana, Georgia Tech making a league of like minds academically. This league could easily get two teams and VERY GOOD shot of 1 every year (6th best league) and keep their academic standards high.
The ACC teams are stuck and can't move anywhere due to their grant of rights. And why on earth would Vandy ever leave the SEC and that huge paycheck they get? Same goes for Indiana. Money talks and the SEC and Big10 have it so no team will leave them in the foreseeable future and the ACC is just stuck unless they find a way to expand.
The top teams in those conferences don't want any of the perennial bottom feeders to leave. Those are typically easier wins. Hard to really see 3-4 SEC teams make if there are 8 automatic qualifiers out of 12. They will still beat up on each other and you will have an LSU deal- really good but 3 maybe 4 losses.
There will only be 6 automatic qualifiers and 6 at large. Each of the top 6 ranked conference champs will be auto qualifiers. the rest will be up to the committee. Just look at this year, if we were at 12, the SEC would get Georgia, Bama, Tennessee and maybe LSU depending on how they finish up against Georgia. The Big10 would probably get 3 in with Michigan, Ohio State and Penn State.
Yep had my numbers wrong.

spacemonkey
Posts: 1162
Joined: Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:01 pm
School: Appalachian State
Has thanked: 119 times
Been thanked: 497 times

Re: 12 team playoff 2024

Unread post by spacemonkey » Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:07 am

t4pizza wrote:
Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:23 pm
spacemonkey wrote:
Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:34 am
I think you could see some new reverse conference alignment. If the new contract says the top 6 conferences you may see some schools get more local (ACC). You don't have to be better than the SEC just better than the AAC and Sunbelt. I could see ND, UNC, Duke, Wake, NC State, Virginia, Stanford, Vanderbilt, Indiana, Georgia Tech making a league of like minds academically. This league could easily get two teams and VERY GOOD shot of 1 every year (6th best league) and keep their academic standards high.
The ACC teams are stuck and can't move anywhere due to their grant of rights. And why on earth would Vandy ever leave the SEC and that huge paycheck they get? Same goes for Indiana. Money talks and the SEC and Big10 have it so no team will leave them in the foreseeable future and the ACC is just stuck unless they find a way to expand.
Notre Dame...A league with Notre Dame is going to get paid.

t4pizza
Posts: 4862
Joined: Sun Oct 26, 2008 11:00 am
School: Appalachian State
Has thanked: 2365 times
Been thanked: 1733 times

Re: 12 team playoff 2024

Unread post by t4pizza » Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:00 am

spacemonkey wrote:
Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:07 am
t4pizza wrote:
Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:23 pm
spacemonkey wrote:
Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:34 am
I think you could see some new reverse conference alignment. If the new contract says the top 6 conferences you may see some schools get more local (ACC). You don't have to be better than the SEC just better than the AAC and Sunbelt. I could see ND, UNC, Duke, Wake, NC State, Virginia, Stanford, Vanderbilt, Indiana, Georgia Tech making a league of like minds academically. This league could easily get two teams and VERY GOOD shot of 1 every year (6th best league) and keep their academic standards high.
The ACC teams are stuck and can't move anywhere due to their grant of rights. And why on earth would Vandy ever leave the SEC and that huge paycheck they get? Same goes for Indiana. Money talks and the SEC and Big10 have it so no team will leave them in the foreseeable future and the ACC is just stuck unless they find a way to expand.
Notre Dame...A league with Notre Dame is going to get paid.
Sure, but they have shown that they are not interested in joining a conference, especially when it is not necessary for a path to the playoffs. They will stay independent as long as they have playoff access.

spacemonkey
Posts: 1162
Joined: Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:01 pm
School: Appalachian State
Has thanked: 119 times
Been thanked: 497 times

Re: 12 team playoff 2024

Unread post by spacemonkey » Fri Dec 02, 2022 5:08 pm

Good point. With 6 at large spots ND does not need a conference.

User avatar
AppWyo
Posts: 540
Joined: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:25 am
School: Appalachian State
Has thanked: 9 times
Been thanked: 313 times

Re: 12 team playoff 2024

Unread post by AppWyo » Fri Dec 02, 2022 5:18 pm

spacemonkey wrote:
Fri Dec 02, 2022 5:08 pm
Good point. With 6 at large spots ND does not need a conference.
What they need is a 16 team playoff with the power five getting an automatic qualifier for the two division champs and the group of five getting an automatic qualifier for their conference champ. Then the 16th automatic qualifier will be Notre Dame regardless of record.

Post Reply Previous topicNext topic

Return to “Appalachian Football”