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Hate Week 2023

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Re: Hate Week 2023

Unread post by AppStateNews » Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:23 pm

NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:17 pm
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Mon Nov 21, 2022 6:49 pm
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My key to victory is Nate Noel getting 20-25 touches. And blitz 40-50% of the time. Bring it!
Vantrese (sp?) gets rid of the ball too quick for blitzing to work.
Well, sitting back and letting him pick out zone apart isn’t going to work
He doesn't sit back. He gets the ball out in about 2 seconds. It's a one read and go type system. Most of the reads are pre snap so he knows where he's going before ball is hiked.
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Re: Hate Week 2023

Unread post by NattyBumppo'sRevenge » Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:41 pm

AppStateNews wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:23 pm
NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:17 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 6:49 pm
NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 6:17 pm
My key to victory is Nate Noel getting 20-25 touches. And blitz 40-50% of the time. Bring it!
Vantrese (sp?) gets rid of the ball too quick for blitzing to work.
Well, sitting back and letting him pick out zone apart isn’t going to work
He doesn't sit back. He gets the ball out in about 2 seconds. It's a one read and go type system. Most of the reads are pre snap so he knows where he's going before ball is hiked.
So blitz faster

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Re: Hate Week 2023

Unread post by AppStateNews » Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:46 pm

NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:41 pm
AppStateNews wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:23 pm
NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:17 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 6:49 pm
NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 6:17 pm
My key to victory is Nate Noel getting 20-25 touches. And blitz 40-50% of the time. Bring it!
Vantrese (sp?) gets rid of the ball too quick for blitzing to work.
Well, sitting back and letting him pick out zone apart isn’t going to work
He doesn't sit back. He gets the ball out in about 2 seconds. It's a one read and go type system. Most of the reads are pre snap so he knows where he's going before ball is hiked.
So blitz faster
You realize there's a line of scrimmage the defense can't pass until the ball is snapped, right?

I'm sure we will blitz by definition most of the time. We will likely send 4 often. And, by definition, that is a blitz. Just need to disguise where that 4th man comes from.
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Re: Hate Week 2023

Unread post by NattyBumppo'sRevenge » Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:47 pm

AppStateNews wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:46 pm
NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:41 pm
AppStateNews wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:23 pm
NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:17 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 6:49 pm


Vantrese (sp?) gets rid of the ball too quick for blitzing to work.
Well, sitting back and letting him pick out zone apart isn’t going to work
He doesn't sit back. He gets the ball out in about 2 seconds. It's a one read and go type system. Most of the reads are pre snap so he knows where he's going before ball is hiked.
So blitz faster
You realize there's a line of scrimmage the defense can't pass until the ball is snapped, right?

I'm sure we will blitz by definition most of the time. We will likely send 4 often. And, by definition, that is a blitz. Just need to disguise where that 4th man comes from.
So, do you agree or disagree that we need to blitz?

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Re: Hate Week 2023

Unread post by AppStateNews » Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:48 pm

NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:47 pm
AppStateNews wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:46 pm
NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:41 pm
AppStateNews wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:23 pm
NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:17 pm


Well, sitting back and letting him pick out zone apart isn’t going to work
He doesn't sit back. He gets the ball out in about 2 seconds. It's a one read and go type system. Most of the reads are pre snap so he knows where he's going before ball is hiked.
So blitz faster
You realize there's a line of scrimmage the defense can't pass until the ball is snapped, right?

I'm sure we will blitz by definition most of the time. We will likely send 4 often. And, by definition, that is a blitz. Just need to disguise where that 4th man comes from.
So, do you agree or disagree that we need to blitz?
By definition, agree. But, most don't think of that as a blitz.
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Re: Hate Week 2023

Unread post by AppSt94 » Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:06 pm

AppStateNews wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:23 pm
NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:17 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 6:49 pm
NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 6:17 pm
My key to victory is Nate Noel getting 20-25 touches. And blitz 40-50% of the time. Bring it!
Vantrese (sp?) gets rid of the ball too quick for blitzing to work.
Well, sitting back and letting him pick out zone apart isn’t going to work
He doesn't sit back. He gets the ball out in about 2 seconds. It's a one read and go type system. Most of the reads are pre snap so he knows where he's going before ball is hiked.
Exactly. So the correct scheme is to drop guys into throwing lanes. Drop a DE out and bring pressure from two backers. Change his eye line and confuse the OL blocking scheme.

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Re: Hate Week 2023

Unread post by huskie3 » Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:20 pm

Or drop DE and blood OLB or tight C. We have done that before.
Bring Your A Game!

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Re: Hate Week 2023

Unread post by NattyBumppo'sRevenge » Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:51 am

Thinking our defense may be better against this type of offense, not having to man cover for long periods of time. It seems to be the kind of offense our Dbacks we’re recruited to play against.

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Unread post by Yosef84 » Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:54 am

Coastal did that on offense and I actually felt like the D played pretty well for most of the game. If our O can stay on the field and score some points (I think they will) I think our D will be fine.

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Re: Hate Week 2023

Unread post by MAD Doctor » Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:58 am

A lot of pride on the line Saturday. Keeping the bowl streak alive is more important than the bowl, itself. First time in a long time that us losing wouldn't even be considered (much of) an upset. Forget betting lines, weather, holiday weekend, records, common opponents, etc... This is Stink, and it's the closest thing we have right now to a championship game. Finish strong. Go App!

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Unread post by WVAPPeer » Tue Nov 22, 2022 11:15 am

PLEASE - NO 3 stripe helmets - go with the CLASSIC - Black/White/Black
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Re: Hate Week 2023

Unread post by BambooRdApp » Tue Nov 22, 2022 11:17 am

I would not mind winter patriotic Yosef look.
Anything but all yellow head to foot
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Re: Hate Week 2023

Unread post by GSUwasGump’sFallbackSchool » Tue Nov 22, 2022 11:41 am

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I would not mind winter patriotic Yosef look.
Anything but all yellow head to foot
I always wonder why they went with USA Yosef, especially the game they chose to wear it on. Chrome over the white would look great tho.

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Re: Hate Week 2023

Unread post by Saint3333 » Tue Nov 22, 2022 11:49 am

AppSt94 wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:06 pm
AppStateNews wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:23 pm
NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:17 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 6:49 pm
NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 6:17 pm
My key to victory is Nate Noel getting 20-25 touches. And blitz 40-50% of the time. Bring it!
Vantrese (sp?) gets rid of the ball too quick for blitzing to work.
Well, sitting back and letting him pick out zone apart isn’t going to work
He doesn't sit back. He gets the ball out in about 2 seconds. It's a one read and go type system. Most of the reads are pre snap so he knows where he's going before ball is hiked.
Exactly. So the correct scheme is to drop guys into throwing lanes. Drop a DE out and bring pressure from two backers. Change his eye line and confuse the OL blocking scheme.
I like bringing the linebackers and dropping a DE. What this team doesn't have the personnel for is rushing three and dropping 8 on 3rd and longs. That has been a recipe for disaster all year. Bring four from somewhere every time, keep them guessing.

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Re: Hate Week 2023

Unread post by bigdaddyg » Tue Nov 22, 2022 12:38 pm

Saint3333 wrote:
Tue Nov 22, 2022 11:49 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:06 pm
AppStateNews wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:23 pm
NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:17 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 6:49 pm


Vantrese (sp?) gets rid of the ball too quick for blitzing to work.
Well, sitting back and letting him pick out zone apart isn’t going to work
He doesn't sit back. He gets the ball out in about 2 seconds. It's a one read and go type system. Most of the reads are pre snap so he knows where he's going before ball is hiked.
Exactly. So the correct scheme is to drop guys into throwing lanes. Drop a DE out and bring pressure from two backers. Change his eye line and confuse the OL blocking scheme.
I like bringing the linebackers and dropping a DE. What this team doesn't have the personnel for is rushing three and dropping 8 on 3rd and longs. That has been a recipe for disaster all year. Bring four from somewhere every time, keep them guessing.
Agree. We can't put any combination of 3 linemen in there to bring any amount of pressure. We have shown some success when we disguise that extra rush with a backer and/or a secondary defender as well. We need to mix it up and just bring extra pressure every play. Confusion is our opportunity.

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Re: Hate Week 2023

Unread post by AppAlum1 » Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:10 pm

AppSt94 wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:45 am
AppAlum1 wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 6:14 am
AppSt94 wrote:
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I don’t know about this being the most vitriol that our boys have faced. Maybe this year but the Louisiana student section is one of the worst environments around.
I could not disagree with you any more. How many Ragin Cagin games have you attended in Lafayette??
I was at the CCG game last season. The cops were asked to stand watch over the student section the whole game.
So was I and I sat basically right beside the UL student section. They were apathetic. We had no problem with them. You must have no experience with the Iggles if that is the benchmark on which you judge unruly students.
Clearly we had different experiences. It’s Thanksgiving week so I really have no desire to get into a pissing contest with you over this. Have a blessed week.
No offense intended. Actually, i think you are correct. I went to both games there in Lafayette last year. The reg season game was the one i was thinking about. Now that I recall things better, the CCG did include some unruly students who had to be restrained by the local police. However, the student section at GaSo is on its own unique uber obnoxious level, based on my trips down there in the Armanti years. I am heading back there Friday & will let you know what i see.

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Re: Hate Week 2023

Unread post by AppSt94 » Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:19 pm

AppAlum1 wrote:
Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:10 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:45 am
AppAlum1 wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 6:14 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Sun Nov 20, 2022 8:02 pm
AppAlum1 wrote:
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I could not disagree with you any more. How many Ragin Cagin games have you attended in Lafayette??
I was at the CCG game last season. The cops were asked to stand watch over the student section the whole game.
So was I and I sat basically right beside the UL student section. They were apathetic. We had no problem with them. You must have no experience with the Iggles if that is the benchmark on which you judge unruly students.
Clearly we had different experiences. It’s Thanksgiving week so I really have no desire to get into a pissing contest with you over this. Have a blessed week.
No offense intended. Actually, i think you are correct. I went to both games there in Lafayette last year. The reg season game was the one i was thinking about. Now that I recall things better, the CCG did include some unruly students who had to be restrained by the local police. However, the student section at GaSo is on its own unique uber obnoxious level, based on my trips down there in the Armanti years. I am heading back there Friday & will let you know what i see.
I tend to give Georgia Southern fans a break when it comes to their behavior. I’m sure that it’s just a by-product of the generations of inbreeding.

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Re: Hate Week 2023

Unread post by BeauFoster » Tue Nov 22, 2022 3:41 pm

AppSt94 wrote:
Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:19 pm
AppAlum1 wrote:
Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:10 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:45 am
AppAlum1 wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 6:14 am
AppSt94 wrote:
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I was at the CCG game last season. The cops were asked to stand watch over the student section the whole game.
So was I and I sat basically right beside the UL student section. They were apathetic. We had no problem with them. You must have no experience with the Iggles if that is the benchmark on which you judge unruly students.
Clearly we had different experiences. It’s Thanksgiving week so I really have no desire to get into a pissing contest with you over this. Have a blessed week.
No offense intended. Actually, i think you are correct. I went to both games there in Lafayette last year. The reg season game was the one i was thinking about. Now that I recall things better, the CCG did include some unruly students who had to be restrained by the local police. However, the student section at GaSo is on its own unique uber obnoxious level, based on my trips down there in the Armanti years. I am heading back there Friday & will let you know what i see.
I tend to give Georgia Southern fans a break when it comes to their behavior. I’m sure that it’s just a by-product of the generations of inbreeding.
You’d be mad all the time too if you’d spent your entire life gumming your food because you have no teeth.
Give 'em hell!

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Re: Hate Week 2023

Unread post by AppinVA » Tue Nov 22, 2022 4:20 pm

It’s fitting that we salute Appsolutely by calling them gumroots. RIP.
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Re: Hate Week 2023

Unread post by Yosefus » Tue Nov 22, 2022 5:50 pm

WVAPPeer wrote:
Tue Nov 22, 2022 11:15 am
PLEASE - NO 3 stripe helmets - go with the CLASSIC - Black/White/Black
It's obvious you have never coached and no nothing about coaching a game with a comment like that. How dare you disrespect 3 stripes?

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