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BOWL ELIGIBILITY

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Unread post by AEB4AE » Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:29 am

Is it true that only one FCS win counts? If so, we must win 6 counting only ONE of Citadel and MORRIS?

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Unread post by AppStateNews » Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:06 am

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Unread post by AppStFan1 » Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:24 am

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Correct
I was about to say the same thing. Can't count 2 FCS wins. I give Gillin a pass on this year because of the new SBC members electing to join after schedules had been made but I hope we never do this again. I rather play 11 games than play 12 if 2 are FCS. Robert Morris basically does not count for anything towards the SBC, bowl eligibility, or get credit from voters for the polls. It only counts as a win for the program overall but the risk is too great. The gate we get is not worth risking injuries to players in a game that literally has no meaning for our season unless we lose it. We win and it does not count and if we lose we get embarrassed. Playing Robert Morris has no too much risk for the gate we get.

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Unread post by AppStateNews » Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:32 am

Yeah, Marshall joining the conference when we already had an OOC game with them scheduled really threw a curve ball. We really didn't have an option this season but to go for two FCS schools.

My understanding is Robert Morris was the only D1 school in the country with an opening on the weekend we needed it and was willing to play. Others obviously has bye weeks then, but with it being later in the season wanted to maintain their bye week to heal up for the final push.
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Unread post by McLeansvilleAppFan » Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:37 am

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Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:29 am
Is it true that only one FCS win counts? If so, we must win 6 counting only ONE of Citadel and MORRIS?
And the FCS school has to sponsor scholarships at 90% of allowed scholarships to count as a win. So non-scholly FCS is basically playing a scrimmage.
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Unread post by AppStFan1 » Sun Oct 02, 2022 12:13 pm

McLeansvilleAppFan wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:37 am
AEB4AE wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:29 am
Is it true that only one FCS win counts? If so, we must win 6 counting only ONE of Citadel and MORRIS?
And the FCS school has to sponsor scholarships at 90% of allowed scholarships to count as a win. So non-scholly FCS is basically playing a scrimmage.
This is why I really don't like that game. We should beat them by 70-80 if we want to and there is risk of injury. I hope we get up 42-0 by early 2nd quarter so we can put in backups and just coast from there. I will take a 56-3 type of score.

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Unread post by goapps93 » Sun Oct 02, 2022 12:25 pm

AppStFan1 wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 12:13 pm
McLeansvilleAppFan wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:37 am
AEB4AE wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:29 am
Is it true that only one FCS win counts? If so, we must win 6 counting only ONE of Citadel and MORRIS?
And the FCS school has to sponsor scholarships at 90% of allowed scholarships to count as a win. So non-scholly FCS is basically playing a scrimmage.
This is why I really don't like that game. We should beat them by 70-80 if we want to and there is risk of injury. I hope we get up 42-0 by early 2nd quarter so we can put in backups and just coast from there. I will take a 56-3 type of score.
I don't like it either, but it appears we didn't have much choice. I give them credit for agreeing to play us.
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Unread post by McLeansvilleAppFan » Sun Oct 02, 2022 1:45 pm

Robert Morris plays in the Big South now and have been since 2020. The NEC was at 45 schollys out of 63. (71%) which is where Robert Morris was before moving to the Horizon in everything but football in 2020. I assume the Big South is at the full 63 schollys and Robert Morris should be at 57 at least by now but they may not be. I would think they could add 6 schollys a year to move to 90% in two years. But I am speculating here to be sure.

(Also the OTHER Robert Morris no longer exists as it merged with Roosevelt U in 2020.)

TL;DR I think this game would count if we had lost to The Citadel or The Citadel was canceled.

In my opinion we should have worked with the Sun Belt to make sure no SB school was looking at two FCS games this year and played another SB team as a non-conference game. UNC and Wake did this a few years ago. I am not against playing one FCS a year and will take two FCS games over an 11 game season but unless it was mathematically impossible to shuffle things around to do the above the SB should have helped with this more than they seemed to have helped.
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Unread post by AppStateNews » Sun Oct 02, 2022 2:00 pm

McLeansvilleAppFan wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 1:45 pm
Robert Morris plays in the Big South now and have been since 2020. The NEC was at 45 schollys out of 63. (71%) which is where Robert Morris was before moving to the Horizon in everything but football in 2020. I assume the Big South is at the full 63 schollys and Robert Morris should be at 57 at least by now but they may not be. I would think they could add 6 schollys a year to move to 90% in two years. But I am speculating here to be sure.

(Also the OTHER Robert Morris no longer exists as it merged with Roosevelt U in 2020.)

TL;DR I think this game would count if we had lost to The Citadel or The Citadel was canceled.

In my opinion we should have worked with the Sun Belt to make sure no SB school was looking at two FCS games this year and played another SB team as a non-conference game. UNC and Wake did this a few years ago. I am not against playing one FCS a year and will take two FCS games over an 11 game season but unless it was mathematically impossible to shuffle things around to do the above the SB should have helped with this more than they seemed to have helped.
We tried that with Marshall. Marshall didn't want to do it.
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Unread post by spacemonkey » Sun Oct 02, 2022 2:48 pm

I don't see the risk and it was brilliant to make it Homecoming weekend. We should make money on the game and give younger guys playing time and Robert Morris something to tell their recruits. I think it was a pretty smart move by Gillin.

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Unread post by spacemonkey » Sun Oct 02, 2022 2:49 pm

I wish we would go for 7 home games every year or 6 home and a neutral site.

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Unread post by McLeansvilleAppFan » Sun Oct 02, 2022 4:56 pm

AppStateNews wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 2:00 pm
McLeansvilleAppFan wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 1:45 pm
Robert Morris plays in the Big South now and have been since 2020. The NEC was at 45 schollys out of 63. (71%) which is where Robert Morris was before moving to the Horizon in everything but football in 2020. I assume the Big South is at the full 63 schollys and Robert Morris should be at 57 at least by now but they may not be. I would think they could add 6 schollys a year to move to 90% in two years. But I am speculating here to be sure.

(Also the OTHER Robert Morris no longer exists as it merged with Roosevelt U in 2020.)

TL;DR I think this game would count if we had lost to The Citadel or The Citadel was canceled.

In my opinion we should have worked with the Sun Belt to make sure no SB school was looking at two FCS games this year and played another SB team as a non-conference game. UNC and Wake did this a few years ago. I am not against playing one FCS a year and will take two FCS games over an 11 game season but unless it was mathematically impossible to shuffle things around to do the above the SB should have helped with this more than they seemed to have helped.
We tried that with Marshall. Marshall didn't want to do it.
Play them twice? We could have done total points over both games to count in the SB standings.
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Re: BOWL ELIGIBILITY

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Sun Oct 02, 2022 5:17 pm

goapps93 wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 12:25 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 12:13 pm
McLeansvilleAppFan wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:37 am
AEB4AE wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:29 am
Is it true that only one FCS win counts? If so, we must win 6 counting only ONE of Citadel and MORRIS?
And the FCS school has to sponsor scholarships at 90% of allowed scholarships to count as a win. So non-scholly FCS is basically playing a scrimmage.
This is why I really don't like that game. We should beat them by 70-80 if we want to and there is risk of injury. I hope we get up 42-0 by early 2nd quarter so we can put in backups and just coast from there. I will take a 56-3 type of score.
I don't like it either, but it appears we didn't have much choice. I give them credit for agreeing to play us.
Agreed. I don't mind it because of our situation this year. I personally would have been fine if DG had just left it an open date but with a tough schedule you want a win to pad the stats and more importantly the big home gate.

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Unread post by huskie3 » Sun Oct 02, 2022 5:19 pm

If it will be that easy start the twos and give ones a rehab/rest. Then play threes in third and scout team in fourth.
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Unread post by AppStFan1 » Sun Oct 02, 2022 5:22 pm

huskie3 wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 5:19 pm
If it will be that easy start the twos and give ones a rehab/rest. Then play threes in third and scout team in fourth.
We probably could. I honestly hope our starters play for a quarter and we get up 28-0 and then put the second string in and see them put up another 21 before we take them out. I expect to be able to play everyone against them. This month is not a gimme but we really should go 4-0 in October, even with our issues we saw in September. We have a month to figure them out and get some guys healthy. It looks like Harrington is done for season.

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