App Pro Day

[AppStateNews]

Numbers, please??

I know personally I have heard some numbers here and there but it will be a day or so before the official stuff makes it way around past the scouts in attendance. I don't know if Moose got them yet though. I'm anxious to see how a few of them did.

I did hear concern that Hennigan ran 4.6s. His speed is big question so hoping for him it is closer to 4.60 than 4.70 could be difference between tryout or contract.

T. Henni reminds me of Cooper Kupp in almost every way. Look up his 2017 Combine results. If given the opportunity, I think TH will perform similarly at the next level.

You think Henni will play to a Super Bowl MVP, Offensive Player of the Year, All Pro level at the NFL? I love the guy, but he didn't even produce like that at App.

He was also not the focal point of the offense. Do I think Henni is as good as Kupp is now? No. Does he have the ability to get that good? APPsolutely.

The main difference between Kupp and Henni in college is Kupp was the offense. If Kupp had a bad game, Eastern Washington had a bad game. Henni just needs the chance. According to a couple scouts I know, his routes out of college are more crisp that Kupp's out of college. His tree is more robust. Kupp's hands were better out of school, but Henni's aren't bad by any means and can only get better.

That said, Henni will likely only get a contract as a PFA and have to perform at a high level to make the team. He'll get his chance and I expect him to take full advantage of it.

[BambooRdApp]

It would be beneficial for App. St. brand, recruiting and overall program if we could get the more players in NFL at skill positions. Their names get called out more on TV broadcasts. With that said, I hope Jackson is the next LT (on field. Not off field) and Meech is the next Reggie White

[WVAPPeer]

it is nice to see APP guys playing in the NFL, but like most of you, that is icing on the cake for me. I care so much more as to how they perform at APP - that being said, I do wonder, with the level of success of our program for some time, why we basically have no starters on NFL teams - I mean when starting line-ups are listed for a given game, there are plenty of G5 guys starting and even several FCS and some D2 and D3 guys - I just don't get it ???

[PhillyApp1]

it is nice to see APP guys playing in the NFL, but like most of you, that is icing on the cake for me. I care so much more as to how they perform at APP - that being said, I do wonder, with the level of success of our program for some time, why we basically have no starters on NFL teams - I mean when starting line-ups are listed for a given game, there are plenty of G5 guys starting and even several FCS and some D2 and D3 guys - I just don't get it ???

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I think most of the App NFL players "have given their All for Appalachian State " and their bodies are hurt.

[ASUPATCH]

it is nice to see APP guys playing in the NFL, but like most of you, that is icing on the cake for me. I care so much more as to how they perform at APP - that being said, I do wonder, with the level of success of our program for some time, why we basically have no starters on NFL teams - I mean when starting line-ups are listed for a given game, there are plenty of G5 guys starting and even several FCS and some D2 and D3 guys - I just don't get it ???

Sam Martin? Sorry I am a bronco fan and had to. Kandall Lamm and Daniel Kilgore have also started a bit in recent years. And to a lesser extent Ronald Blair and Brian Quick. There are G% and FCS players and starters on many rosters. But likely not multiples very often from a single school. Our kids came to App for a reason. They weren't 5 star kids that were being offered by Bama, Texas, Georgia, Ohio State. They are typically either a bit smaller than the NFL norm or a bit slower than NFL norms or a bit weaker or underdeveloped than the NFL norms. We get kids that might be an inch too short a step too slow or got over looked by the SEC and ACC for a myriad of reasons. Outside of Dexter Jackson we have never had a kid even go to the combine and look all that great. Kilgore was one of the "slowest" and "weakest" lineman at the combine. But he worked his butt off and earned a spot.

[WVAPPeer]

All true but the guys at other G5s, FCS and D2-3 are at those schools for the very same reason

[hapapp]

it is nice to see APP guys playing in the NFL, but like most of you, that is icing on the cake for me. I care so much more as to how they perform at APP - that being said, I do wonder, with the level of success of our program for some time, why we basically have no starters on NFL teams - I mean when starting line-ups are listed for a given game, there are plenty of G5 guys starting and even several FCS and some D2 and D3 guys - I just don't get it ???

Sam Martin? Sorry I am a bronco fan and had to. Kandall Lamm and Daniel Kilgore have also started a bit in recent years. And to a lesser extent Ronald Blair and Brian Quick. There are G% and FCS players and starters on many rosters. But likely not multiples very often from a single school. Our kids came to App for a reason. They weren't 5 star kids that were being offered by Bama, Texas, Georgia, Ohio State. They are typically either a bit smaller than the NFL norm or a bit slower than NFL norms or a bit weaker or underdeveloped than the NFL norms. We get kids that might be an inch too short a step too slow or got over looked by the SEC and ACC for a myriad of reasons. Outside of Dexter Jackson we have never had a kid even go to the combine and look all that great. Kilgore was one of the "slowest" and "weakest" lineman at the combine. But he worked his butt off and earned a spot.

We've actually had several go to the combine.
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Edit: After re-reading your comment, I realized I missed your qualifier..."and look all that great."

[AppStFan1]

Numbers, please??

I know personally I have heard some numbers here and there but it will be a day or so before the official stuff makes it way around past the scouts in attendance. I don't know if Moose got them yet though. I'm anxious to see how a few of them did.

I did hear concern that Hennigan ran 4.6s. His speed is big question so hoping for him it is closer to 4.60 than 4.70 could be difference between tryout or contract.

T. Henni reminds me of Cooper Kupp in almost every way. Look up his 2017 Combine results. If given the opportunity, I think TH will perform similarly at the next level.

They aren't far off. Kupp ran a little faster than I'm hearing Hennigan did but they remind me of each other. I think Hennigan will get paid to play football somewhere for sure. If Hennigan was 6'2 and ran as fast as Virgil then he would be a 3rd-4th round type player. Just so savvy and smart. He can block and runs good routes, as well as good hands. I really hope he gets a fair shot.

[WVAPPeer]

it is nice to see APP guys playing in the NFL, but like most of you, that is icing on the cake for me. I care so much more as to how they perform at APP - that being said, I do wonder, with the level of success of our program for some time, why we basically have no starters on NFL teams - I mean when starting line-ups are listed for a given game, there are plenty of G5 guys starting and even several FCS and some D2 and D3 guys - I just don't get it ???

Sam Martin? Sorry I am a bronco fan and had to. Kandall Lamm and Daniel Kilgore have also started a bit in recent years. And to a lesser extent Ronald Blair and Brian Quick. There are G% and FCS players and starters on many rosters. But likely not multiples very often from a single school. Our kids came to App for a reason. They weren't 5 star kids that were being offered by Bama, Texas, Georgia, Ohio State. They are typically either a bit smaller than the NFL norm or a bit slower than NFL norms or a bit weaker or underdeveloped than the NFL norms. We get kids that might be an inch too short a step too slow or got over looked by the SEC and ACC for a myriad of reasons. Outside of Dexter Jackson we have never had a kid even go to the combine and look all that great. Kilgore was one of the "slowest" and "weakest" lineman at the combine. But he worked his butt off and earned a spot.

I did think Sam Martin but then went to only O and D - if I'm not mistaken, all the guys you mentioned were from FCS days - couldn't remember for sure if Blair and/or Lamm began when we were FCS

[Apple@chin1]

Numbers, please??

I know personally I have heard some numbers here and there but it will be a day or so before the official stuff makes it way around past the scouts in attendance. I don't know if Moose got them yet though. I'm anxious to see how a few of them did.

I did hear concern that Hennigan ran 4.6s. His speed is big question so hoping for him it is closer to 4.60 than 4.70 could be difference between tryout or contract.

T. Henni reminds me of Cooper Kupp in almost every way. Look up his 2017 Combine results. If given the opportunity, I think TH will perform similarly at the next level.

You think Henni will play to a Super Bowl MVP, Offensive Player of the Year, All Pro level at the NFL? I love the guy, but he didn't even produce like that at App.

You think anybody expected that from Kupp coming out of college? You make it sound like he was some stud from Alabama. He was unrated with only 2 college offers. TH had to share receptions & TD's with a stacked roster of talented receivers. But, I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that he had the best hands of the bunch. Given his work ethic, I won't doubt him. But, you can. That's your prerogative.

[AppStFan1]

Here are key notes and official results from the App Pro Day.

QB Chase Brice did participate as a throwing QB and did not measure or even fill out any forms.

FS Madison Cone- 5082, 182, 1.67 10, 2.69 20, 4.65 and 4.67 40, 8 1/2 hand, 29 3/8 arm, 70 wing, and stood on the rest of his numbers from the Wisconsin Pro Day on March 9th.

WR Thomas Hennigan- 6011, 210, 4.70 and 4.72 40, 1.62 10, 2.78 20, 33 VJ, 9'6 BJ, 4.28 short shuttle, 7.21 3-cone, 9 1/4 hand, 30 3/4 arm, 74 1/8 wing, and 12 bench reps.

P Clayton Howell participated as a holder only and like Brice is returning as you all know.

C John "Baer" Hunter- 6014, 297, 5.16 40 twice, 1.75 10, 3.00 20, 30.5 VJ, 8'10 BJ, 4.75 short shuttle, 7.93 3-cone, 9 1/4 hand, 30 3/4 arm, 77 wing, and 25 bench reps.

ILB D'Marco Jackson- 6003, 234, 32 VJ, 4.29 short shuttle, 7.19 3-cone, 9 3/8 hand, 32 3/8 arm, 78 1/8 wing, 19 bench reps. He stood on the rest of his numbers from the NFL Combine, which included a 4.55 40.

CB Shaun Jolly- 5086, 179, 4.51 and 4.52 40, 1.59 10, 2.58 20, 36.5 VJ, 10'4 BJ, 4.13 short shuttle, 6.95 3-cone, 9 1/8 hand, 30 3/8 arm, and 72 5/8 wing. Jolly chose not to bench due to a left shoulder injury (slightly torn labrum) that he suffered during the season.

SS Kaiden Smith- 6010, 204, 4.69 and 4.76 40, 1.69 10, 2.68 20, 31 VJ, 10'0 BJ, 4.18 short shuttle, 7.20 3-cone, 8 3/4 hand, 31 arm, 75 5/8 wing, and 13 bench reps.

DE Caleb Spurlin was 5103, 233, 4.94 and 4.98 40, 1.76 10, 2.86 20, 4.57 short shuttle, 7.70 3-cone, 9 hand, 28 3/8 arm, 67 5/8 wing, 24 bench reps. Spurlin caught passes and will try as a fullback it sounds like.

K Chandler Staton- 5111, 188, 8 5/8 hand, 31 1/8 arm, 73 1/4 wing, and kicked only. His kicks looked good from what scouts told me.

P Xavier Subotsch- 6000, 200, 9 1/4 hand, 30 1/2 arm, 71 3/4 wing, and he punted only.

WR Corey Sutton- 6015, 208 and did 13 bench reps. 8 1/2 hand, 30 3/4 arm, 74 1/4 wing. Only did the bench due to a right Soleus strain that happened during training on March 27th.

DE Demetrius Taylor- 6001, 289, ran 5.07 40 twice, 1.69 10, 2.90 20, 30 VJ, 8'10 BJ, 4.50 short shuttle, 8.03 3-cone, 9 3/4 hand, 32 3/8 arm, 78 wing, and 27 bench reps.

WR Jalen Virgil- 6001, 207, 4.39 and 4.40 40, 1.59 10, 2.56 20, 36.6 VJ, 10'10 BJ, 4.35 short shuttle, 7.15 3-cone, 9 3/8 hand, 31 1/2 arm, 75 3/8 wing, and 19 bench reps.

WR Malik Williams- 5087, 183, 4.57 and 4.60 40, 1.58 10, 2.69 20, 33.5 VJ, 10'0 BJ, 4.19 short shuttle, 7.20 3-cone, 9 5/8 hand, 29 3/8 arm, 74 1/2 wing, and 12 bench reps.

[AppFan11]

Nice work appStfan1.

[ASU3432Mi]

Are there any former APP players on any USFL rosters?

[AppStFan1]

Nice work appStfan1.

You are welcome.

[AppStFan1]

Are there any former APP players on any USFL rosters?

I believe Tae Hayes is on a team. Not sure about others? Was told that Baer Hunter had talks with USFL but he told them that he wanted to try the NFL first before he goes. Malik Williams was on their list to draft but for some reason they never took him. I was surprised he even put himself on that draft list to begin with before seeing how the NFL would go.

[appdaze]

Are there any former APP players on any USFL rosters?

Scroll down to see the draft of each team. Like AppStfan1 said, it looks like Tae is the only one.


https://www.si.com/nfl/draft/news/usfl- ... ft-process

[Seattleapp]

Numbers, please??

I know personally I have heard some numbers here and there but it will be a day or so before the official stuff makes it way around past the scouts in attendance. I don't know if Moose got them yet though. I'm anxious to see how a few of them did.

I did hear concern that Hennigan ran 4.6s. His speed is big question so hoping for him it is closer to 4.60 than 4.70 could be difference between tryout or contract.

T. Henni reminds me of Cooper Kupp in almost every way. Look up his 2017 Combine results. If given the opportunity, I think TH will perform similarly at the next level.

Not even close. They are both white. That’s where the comparison ends.

[1ASU78]

Not even close. They are both white. That’s where the comparison ends.
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So 5 is that much better.
Give em hell Apps!!

[AppStateNews]

Numbers, please??

I know personally I have heard some numbers here and there but it will be a day or so before the official stuff makes it way around past the scouts in attendance. I don't know if Moose got them yet though. I'm anxious to see how a few of them did.

I did hear concern that Hennigan ran 4.6s. His speed is big question so hoping for him it is closer to 4.60 than 4.70 could be difference between tryout or contract.

T. Henni reminds me of Cooper Kupp in almost every way. Look up his 2017 Combine results. If given the opportunity, I think TH will perform similarly at the next level.

Not even close. They are both white. That’s where the comparison ends.

Right now, you're 100% correct. Kupp, as of this moment, is light years better than Henni. I don't think Henni would even argue that.

But, coming out of college, they are very similar players.

[AppStFan1]

Numbers, please??

I know personally I have heard some numbers here and there but it will be a day or so before the official stuff makes it way around past the scouts in attendance. I don't know if Moose got them yet though. I'm anxious to see how a few of them did.

I did hear concern that Hennigan ran 4.6s. His speed is big question so hoping for him it is closer to 4.60 than 4.70 could be difference between tryout or contract.

T. Henni reminds me of Cooper Kupp in almost every way. Look up his 2017 Combine results. If given the opportunity, I think TH will perform similarly at the next level.

Not even close. They are both white. That’s where the comparison ends.

Right now, you're 100% correct. Kupp, as of this moment, is light years better than Henni. I don't think Henni would even argue that.

But, coming out of college, they are very similar players.

I can definitely agree that they are similar type of players but Kupp was definitely the more talented player. He was a 2nd round pick so it is not like the NFL thought he was not any good either. A second round pick means they viewed him as a starter.