Kidd Brewer Stadium Review

[NewApp]

NewApp, considering the push at a lot of the biggest stadiums across the country is contraction of seating (not saying we’re actually there, just saying it’s a trend) and a focus on fan amenities to make the in-stadium experience as comfortable and enticing as possible…yeah I think the athletic department needs to be open to all possibilities and options.

Athletic departments find themselves competing with what an increasing number of people believe to be a superior home viewing experience. Are cramped, claustrophobic conditions just for the sake of squeezing another 1,000 fans in the way to go? I’m not so sure.

Didn't the AD already say he wanted Kidd Brewer to be the best 30,000 seat stadium in the nation...or something like that? Fits right in to what you are saying.

I mean if you want to hyper focus on a quote and put it on a sacred pedestal, go ahead I guess. But you can add all the italic font signage you want, and if the infrastructure sucks it’s still just lipstick on a pig. You’re drunk if you can’t agree that while the aerial photographs of KBS look amazing (and they do) many facets of the fan experience aren’t up to modern standards.

Yes, I add color or bold face, or italics because I have been lectured about all caps meaning shouting, but like to emphasize the point I'm trying to focus on. If that bothers you, I'm sorry.

[NewApp]

There is a net gain of 400 beds. This is IF East is also demolished. There has not been a formal request to demolish East as of yet. East was not planned originally to be used this school year but because of the robust enrollment numbers it was utilized but I don't know how many of the 300 beds in East are being used.

Here are the details:

https://www.appstate.edu/appalachians-f ... nce-halls/

These projects are quite tremendous for the university. The number one huge top reason students choose another university over AppState has been because our dorm sucked so bad in comparison to UNC Charlotte, UNC Wilmington and even WCU.

Is East still the ground zero for the drug crowd?

[AppSt94]

Hot takes:
1) We should shrink capacity before we ever think about adding seating! It's too easy to walk-up and buy tickets to games. I'm hoping the new SBC alignment will force more people to join the Yosef Club and become season ticket holders. 4,000 Yosef Club members simply won't cut it.
2) Miller Hill should NEVER be converted to seats. It can be standing room only for big games and added capacity.
3) If we had money to burn (which we don't) then brick in the columns on the East Side. It would give it a more finished look on a budget.
4) Close stadium drive to anything but emergency vehicles and foot traffic 90 mins before kick-off and have the band perform. Late arrivers can get to the Stadium parking deck via the back entrance. Have Chancellor Everts drive her golf cart to get the old folks up the stadium during that time. It'll be the first time she's spent her time wisely since her arrival.
5) Visiting fans should be on the East Side closest to Miller Hill and away from the NEZ!
6) Sell Black or Yellow pom-poms for $1-2 in the parking lots before the game. Sell the handle as ad space to a business and double-dip on the revenue. It's less about making money and more about the experience during the game.
7) Have someone walk through the parking lots with an iPad and a Square asking for Yosef Club donations. Drunk, passionate, fans on gameday is the perfect time to ask for money. If its an attractive lady challenging 1 alumni to out donate his college buddy you may have figured a way to strike gold!

I'm done for now...

I like ideas 3,5, and 6.

[NewApp]

Hot takes:
1) We should shrink capacity before we ever think about adding seating! It's too easy to walk-up and buy tickets to games. I'm hoping the new SBC alignment will force more people to join the Yosef Club and become season ticket holders. 4,000 Yosef Club members simply won't cut it.
2) Miller Hill should NEVER be converted to seats. It can be standing room only for big games and added capacity.
3) If we had money to burn (which we don't) then brick in the columns on the East Side. It would give it a more finished look on a budget.
4) Close stadium drive to anything but emergency vehicles and foot traffic 90 mins before kick-off and have the band perform. Late arrivers can get to the Stadium parking deck via the back entrance. Have Chancellor Everts drive her golf cart to get the old folks up the stadium during that time. It'll be the first time she's spent her time wisely since her arrival.
5) Visiting fans should be on the East Side closest to Miller Hill and away from the NEZ!
6) Sell Black or Yellow pom-poms for $1-2 in the parking lots before the game. Sell the handle as ad space to a business and double-dip on the revenue. It's less about making money and more about the experience during the game.
7) Have someone walk through the parking lots with an iPad and a Square asking for Yosef Club donations. Drunk, passionate, fans on gameday is the perfect time to ask for money. If its an attractive lady challenging 1 alumni to out donate his college buddy you may have figured a way to strike gold!

I'm done for now...

I like ideas 3,5, and 6.

I like #2 I've sat on the hill many times in the rain with a wet butt and still enjoyed the game.

[mike87]

Hot takes:
1) We should shrink capacity before we ever think about adding seating! It's too easy to walk-up and buy tickets to games. I'm hoping the new SBC alignment will force more people to join the Yosef Club and become season ticket holders. 4,000 Yosef Club members simply won't cut it.
2) Miller Hill should NEVER be converted to seats. It can be standing room only for big games and added capacity.
3) If we had money to burn (which we don't) then brick in the columns on the East Side. It would give it a more finished look on a budget.
4) Close stadium drive to anything but emergency vehicles and foot traffic 90 mins before kick-off and have the band perform. Late arrivers can get to the Stadium parking deck via the back entrance. Have Chancellor Everts drive her golf cart to get the old folks up the stadium during that time. It'll be the first time she's spent her time wisely since her arrival.
5) Visiting fans should be on the East Side closest to Miller Hill and away from the NEZ!
6) Sell Black or Yellow pom-poms for $1-2 in the parking lots before the game. Sell the handle as ad space to a business and double-dip on the revenue. It's less about making money and more about the experience during the game.
7) Have someone walk through the parking lots with an iPad and a Square asking for Yosef Club donations. Drunk, passionate, fans on gameday is the perfect time to ask for money. If its an attractive lady challenging 1 alumni to out donate his college buddy you may have figured a way to strike gold!

I'm done for now...

I like ideas 3,5, and 6.

I like #7 but my wife might not.

[Boone Goon]

Hot takes:
1) We should shrink capacity before we ever think about adding seating! It's too easy to walk-up and buy tickets to games. I'm hoping the new SBC alignment will force more people to join the Yosef Club and become season ticket holders. 4,000 Yosef Club members simply won't cut it.
2) Miller Hill should NEVER be converted to seats. It can be standing room only for big games and added capacity.
3) If we had money to burn (which we don't) then brick in the columns on the East Side. It would give it a more finished look on a budget.
4) Close stadium drive to anything but emergency vehicles and foot traffic 90 mins before kick-off and have the band perform. Late arrivers can get to the Stadium parking deck via the back entrance. Have Chancellor Everts drive her golf cart to get the old folks up the stadium during that time. It'll be the first time she's spent her time wisely since her arrival.
5) Visiting fans should be on the East Side closest to Miller Hill and away from the NEZ!
6) Sell Black or Yellow pom-poms for $1-2 in the parking lots before the game. Sell the handle as ad space to a business and double-dip on the revenue. It's less about making money and more about the experience during the game.
7) Have someone walk through the parking lots with an iPad and a Square asking for Yosef Club donations. Drunk, passionate, fans on gameday is the perfect time to ask for money. If its an attractive lady challenging 1 alumni to out donate his college buddy you may have figured a way to strike gold!

I'm done for now...

I like ideas 3,5, and 6.

I like #7 but my wife might not.

...would she have a problem if we put some of the ladies from the Hickory Hooters in yellow shorts instead of orange??

[APPdiesel]

NewApp, considering the push at a lot of the biggest stadiums across the country is contraction of seating (not saying we’re actually there, just saying it’s a trend) and a focus on fan amenities to make the in-stadium experience as comfortable and enticing as possible…yeah I think the athletic department needs to be open to all possibilities and options.

Athletic departments find themselves competing with what an increasing number of people believe to be a superior home viewing experience. Are cramped, claustrophobic conditions just for the sake of squeezing another 1,000 fans in the way to go? I’m not so sure.

Didn't the AD already say he wanted Kidd Brewer to be the best 30,000 seat stadium in the nation...or something like that? Fits right in to what you are saying.

I mean if you want to hyper focus on a quote and put it on a sacred pedestal, go ahead I guess. But you can add all the italic font signage you want, and if the infrastructure sucks it’s still just lipstick on a pig. You’re drunk if you can’t agree that while the aerial photographs of KBS look amazing (and they do) many facets of the fan experience aren’t up to modern standards.

Chill, big guy. I wasn't complaining or hyper focusing whatever that is. Just agreeing that I would rather have a comfortable beautiful well designed stadium of 30K than a larger tacky aluminum stadium like so many have. I most often sit on the home team's side because I like being behind the team but I do get tired of the narrow seating aisles. Been doing it for decades. Something eventually will be done about it. I got the quote from somebody on here who intimated that that is the current philosophy of the athletic admin.
Now carry on and find somebody else to pick on.

I’m not upset about anything. By quoting the AD and saying you’re opposed to contraction it sounded like you were keen on the 30,000 number as a hard and fast milestone.

[NewApp]

NewApp, considering the push at a lot of the biggest stadiums across the country is contraction of seating (not saying we’re actually there, just saying it’s a trend) and a focus on fan amenities to make the in-stadium experience as comfortable and enticing as possible…yeah I think the athletic department needs to be open to all possibilities and options.

Athletic departments find themselves competing with what an increasing number of people believe to be a superior home viewing experience. Are cramped, claustrophobic conditions just for the sake of squeezing another 1,000 fans in the way to go? I’m not so sure.

Didn't the AD already say he wanted Kidd Brewer to be the best 30,000 seat stadium in the nation...or something like that? Fits right in to what you are saying.




I mean if you want to hyper focus on a quote and put it on a sacred pedestal, go ahead I guess. But you can add all the italic font signage you want, and if the infrastructure sucks it’s still just lipstick on a pig. You’re drunk if you can’t agree that while the aerial photographs of KBS look amazing (and they do) many facets of the fan experience aren’t up to modern standards.

Chill, big guy. I wasn't complaining or hyper focusing whatever that is. Just agreeing that I would rather have a comfortable beautiful well designed stadium of 30K than a larger tacky aluminum stadium like so many have. I most often sit on the home team's side because I like being behind the team but I do get tired of the narrow seating aisles. Been doing it for decades. Something eventually will be done about it. I got the quote from somebody on here who intimated that that is the current philosophy of the athletic admin.
Now carry on and find somebody else to pick on.

I’m not upset about anything. By quoting the AD and saying you’re opposed to contraction it sounded like you were keen on the 30,000 number as a hard and fast milestone.

Are you one who believes in every conspiracy theory that comes down the pike or do you just read into things whatever you want regardless of what I say?. You were just totally wrong about what i was expressing. I was just asking if I was correct in recalling the AD say that. As for me, I would like as many fans to see App games as is feasible on any given Boone Saturday, but I also like the feel of a small easy to navigate stadium. Regardless, I will attend App games until the day I can't walk up the hill. I had my fill of a big stadium when I saw the Packers play in Green Bay or even at Panthers games. I feel like a Nazi at a Hitler rally.
And by chill, I mean quit trying to put words in my mouth in a accusatory manner. You sound like the Heckler in Chief who always like to try to dig at me. You know who I am talking about.

[HighlandsApp]

Interesting tidbit in The Appalachian from their this day in history:

"The lake at the site of the new athletic field has been drained, trees are being cleared and brush was being burned last week in preparation for building the stadium, field house, and access roads and walks. The lake covered much of the site where the football stadium and field will stand."

https://theappalachianonline.com/this-d ... increases/

Maybe rather than being called The Rock, KBS should be referred to as The Lake.

[AppWyo]

Interesting tidbit in The Appalachian from their this day in history:

"The lake at the site of the new athletic field has been drained, trees are being cleared and brush was being burned last week in preparation for building the stadium, field house, and access roads and walks. The lake covered much of the site where the football stadium and field will stand."

https://theappalachianonline.com/this-d ... increases/

Maybe rather than being called The Rock, KBS should be referred to as The Lake.

I always thought it would be awesome to call the stadium BLACK SATURDAY, but I guess the The Rock is something that more people can understand. "Welcome to BLACK SATURDAY at The Rock!", besides, Kidd Brewer was a convicted felon.

[AtlAppMan]

Interesting tidbit in The Appalachian from their this day in history:

"The lake at the site of the new athletic field has been drained, trees are being cleared and brush was being burned last week in preparation for building the stadium, field house, and access roads and walks. The lake covered much of the site where the football stadium and field will stand."

https://theappalachianonline.com/this-d ... increases/

Maybe rather than being called The Rock, KBS should be referred to as The Lake.

I always thought it would be awesome to call the stadium BLACK SATURDAY, but I guess the The Rock is something that more people can understand. "Welcome to BLACK SATURDAY at The Rock!", besides, Kidd Brewer was a convicted felon.

So the line, "Spend a Saturday at The Lake" doesn't have the same connotation? Sounds more like a relaxing afternoon soaking up some sun and brewskis type of day. Maybe some similarities but it doesn't work with Black Saturday at The Lake.

[HighlandsApp]

We could go with The Bog to reference mountain bogs....

I like the Black Saturday at the Rock connotation.

[mike87]

Interesting tidbit in The Appalachian from their this day in history:

"The lake at the site of the new athletic field has been drained, trees are being cleared and brush was being burned last week in preparation for building the stadium, field house, and access roads and walks. The lake covered much of the site where the football stadium and field will stand."

https://theappalachianonline.com/this-d ... increases/

Maybe rather than being called The Rock, KBS should be referred to as The Lake.

I often heard the story that there's a spring beneath the field that prevents lowering the field level. May have some truth to the story.

[NewApp]

NewApp, considering the push at a lot of the biggest stadiums across the country is contraction of seating (not saying we’re actually there, just saying it’s a trend) and a focus on fan amenities to make the in-stadium experience as comfortable and enticing as possible…yeah I think the athletic department needs to be open to all possibilities and options.

Athletic departments find themselves competing with what an increasing number of people believe to be a superior home viewing experience. Are cramped, claustrophobic conditions just for the sake of squeezing another 1,000 fans in the way to go? I’m not so sure.

Didn't the AD already say he wanted Kidd Brewer to be the best 30,000 seat stadium in the nation...or something like that? Fits right in to what you are saying.

I mean if you want to hyper focus on a quote and put it on a sacred pedestal, go ahead I guess. But you can add all the italic font signage you want, and if the infrastructure sucks it’s still just lipstick on a pig. You’re drunk if you can’t agree that while the aerial photographs of KBS look amazing (and they do) many facets of the fan experience aren’t up to modern standards.

Chill, big guy. I wasn't complaining or hyper focusing whatever that is. Just agreeing that I would rather have a comfortable beautiful well designed stadium of 30K than a larger tacky aluminum stadium like so many have. I most often sit on the home team's side because I like being behind the team but I do get tired of the narrow seating aisles. Been doing it for decades. Something eventually will be done about it. I got the quote from somebody on here who intimated that that is the current philosophy of the athletic admin.
Now carry on and find somebody else to pick on.

I’m not upset about anything. By quoting the AD and saying you’re opposed to contraction it sounded like you were keen on the 30,000 number as a hard and fast milestone.

Nope. Not particularly opposed to contraction except I think it would be detrimental to put concrete seating on the hill as it would reduce the number who could sit on the hill by choice. But if the admin wants to do so, I won't mind because I often like to sit on the home team's side whether it is cramped or not. Basically, I want to leave things alone. Not contract or expand. We have a good set up and facility as it stands. I just quoted the AD simply because I wasn't sure I remembered it or who said it correctly and the topic was about contracting, staying the same or expanding.

[HighlandsApp]

Interesting tidbit in The Appalachian from their this day in history:

"The lake at the site of the new athletic field has been drained, trees are being cleared and brush was being burned last week in preparation for building the stadium, field house, and access roads and walks. The lake covered much of the site where the football stadium and field will stand."

https://theappalachianonline.com/this-d ... increases/

Maybe rather than being called The Rock, KBS should be referred to as The Lake.

I often heard the story that there's a spring beneath the field that prevents lowering the field level. May have some truth to the story.

The field COULD be lowered but that would essentially result in tearing down all of the stands and building an whole new stadium around the buildings and would likely have never been seriously considered.

[mike87]

Interesting tidbit in The Appalachian from their this day in history:

"The lake at the site of the new athletic field has been drained, trees are being cleared and brush was being burned last week in preparation for building the stadium, field house, and access roads and walks. The lake covered much of the site where the football stadium and field will stand."

https://theappalachianonline.com/this-d ... increases/

Maybe rather than being called The Rock, KBS should be referred to as The Lake.

I often heard the story that there's a spring beneath the field that prevents lowering the field level. May have some truth to the story.

The field COULD be lowered but that would essentially result in tearing down all of the stands and building an whole new stadium around the buildings and would likely have never been seriously considered.

Not advocating either way. Just referencing the existence of a spring beneath the stadium. Cool story that there used to be a lake.

[AtlAppMan]

Just a general note about the video and the guys doing the video. I have not yet watched all 30 mins of it but quickly spent about 5 mins scanning parts of it. I do intend to watch it in its entirety.

They spent a lot of time and investment on this video. That is very cool and appreciated. I tip my hat to these guys and welcome their inputs.

What I briefly saw was a couple of neutral observers taking the time to really look at our program from a "typical" Saturday, not the best and not the worst. They pointed out good and not so good but it is a fair honest assessment from a neutral party that just seems to like college football. It was very refreshing to see a couple dudes document their experience with some good level of expertise of college football.

Thanks guys for taking the time to review App State football from an in-person perspective.