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Can G5 really compete?

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Re: Can G5 really compete?

Unread post by AppSt94 » Thu Jan 06, 2022 12:52 pm

ArmantiWaterSafety wrote:
Thu Jan 06, 2022 12:47 pm
No, but there are only:

35 5 star recruits
341 4 star recruits

So let's round up and say 400.

That's what, 5 teams? Which, funny enough, is about the amount of teams that are actually able to compete in the current climate for a championship.

The fact is, the P5/G5 thing is a joke. There is the "NFL minor league 5" and then literally the rest of college football as proven by the "G5's" 6-1 record against the "P5's" this bowl season.

Ultimately, while it's easy to fall into the doom and gloom of the NIL ruining college football, college football is already ruined.

We play for championships, just not nationals. We play to win the conference and be the top dog in the landscape of college football outside of the NFL minor league 5.
It would be 7 teams. (376/25). But your point is spot on.

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Re: Can G5 really compete?

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Re: Can G5 really compete?

Unread post by WVAPPeer » Thu Jan 06, 2022 2:14 pm

Guys - we see what is directly in front of us - the question is, what beyond our bitching can be done??? - some don't want expanded playoffs - many don't want a G5 Championship - Using reality based thoughts - What do you want?
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Re: Can G5 really compete?

Unread post by bigdaddyg » Thu Jan 06, 2022 2:58 pm

WVAPPeer wrote:
Thu Jan 06, 2022 2:14 pm
Guys - we see what is directly in front of us - the question is, what beyond our bitching can be done??? - some don't want expanded playoffs - many don't want a G5 Championship - Using reality based thoughts - What do you want?
I hear you. Not like any of us control any of this crap. How about the elimination of the P5 and G5 designations to start. All 130 or so FBS/CFC level teams have the same designation. Next if the playoffs are expanded use a computer model that ranks teams 1-8 for an 8 team playoff or 1-16 if that many. Forget about using conference champions. If the top 4 strongest teams are SEC so be it. Maybe App would have to schedule 4 big boys (not referring to them as P5) teams every year to offset what is probably going to be a relatively weak SB slate. Obviously you have to hope that those 4 are strong 4-50 years down the road after scheduling them- lol. If we beat Texas A&M, UNC, Alabama and Ohio State (dropped the other 2 games next year and picked up the other 2 listed) along with an 8-0 conference schedule then a CCG win and that’s not good enough to get in then I don’t know what to do.

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Re: Can G5 really compete?

Unread post by Saint3333 » Thu Jan 06, 2022 4:54 pm

I want the NCAA to strive to provide more athletic scholarship opportunities to young men and women not restrict it. We appear to be going the other way with a stronger concentration at a few schools.

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Re: Can G5 really compete?

Unread post by NewApp » Sat Jan 08, 2022 9:57 am

appdaze wrote:
Wed Jan 05, 2022 4:08 pm
25-30 million spent on recruiting by Texas a&m.

https://247sports.com/college/arkansas- ... 119439194/

In 2018 our reported athletics budget was 13.8 million. They spent double our budget just on football recruiting.


No. G5 cannot compete. Will G5 get those flash in the pan big years, yes, but long-term competitiveness is now completely out the window. Enjoy it while it lasts.
That's my opinion, as well, daze. It's not just now, it's been that way all along. P-5 doesn't mean power, it means money and name recognition for members. :(
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Re: Can G5 really compete?

Unread post by AppWyo » Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:01 pm

Look at it this way, if you win your conference you get in. That is fair and you just do not get in because someone believes you to be a top team. Just like every year Notre Dame is believed to be a top team. Have them miss the playoffs enough and they will join a conference.

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Re: Can G5 really compete?

Unread post by CornCobPipes » Sat Jan 08, 2022 8:46 pm

I think it's possible for a G5 program to hold a high level of success.... but it's a longshot scenario where it retains a steadfast old fashioned type coach that builds a team of success with a nucleus staff that refuses to budge. A strong fanbase has to remain in place as well which usually follows success. Even with all this being constant it's still almost impossible to be a National Championship caliber even in a fluke year. Sadly in this era it's all about the money.
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Re: Can G5 really compete?

Unread post by DenverOfTheEast » Sat Jan 08, 2022 9:14 pm

G5 can’t compete with P5 —— the separation is starting to be exact same as the old days of 1AA and D 1 or whatever they use to call it.

In fact G5 needs to start their on playoff or Bowl Championship.

Sure a G5 will beat a bottom feeder ACC or Big12 team every year —- but G5 in general isn’t beating the top tier teams —- win the Sun Belt, enjoy 6 Tailgates in Boone per year and keep moving forward.

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Re: Can G5 really compete?

Unread post by AppWyo » Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:06 pm

Expand the College Football Playoffs to include all conference or division champions and you had better believe they would compete.

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Re: Can G5 really compete?

Unread post by spacemonkey » Sun Jan 09, 2022 4:01 pm

If we get to division champions making the playoffs we may get back to the original conference ACC 8 or 9 and the Big East 8 or 9. Then we could have round Robin FBS champions and champions making a 16 team playoff. Have the G5 14 team Champion play another G5 Champion for a shot to be included in the playoff. AAC vs MWN and The SunBelt vs the MAC. Maybe we start a week early. G5 has a harder way to make playoffs but a champion out of 28 teams should at least make it interesting. vs a Big East or ACC champion with 8 teams.

The regular season...end of season games have to mean more to keep it interesting to the entire nation.

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