Oct 26 Game

[ASUTodd]

Luke and Eric need to do the National Anthem then helicopter back to Charlotte. Would that not be great!!!

Given the fact that climate change is mostly driven by carbon in the atmosphere and hurricanes are getting worse due to climate change I would like to see them due something that is a bit greener.

That is funny but since I am not sure if you are serious I will take the bait in case we have some who are worried about it. Climate change is real as we are going through some shifts in weather but not because of carbon in the atmosphere. These massive private jets cause 100x more of it than our cars do. If the people who preach it to us most would set the example and stop flying private jets that would help way more than anything you or I can do.

If you do non-partisan research look at temperatures and weather over the entire life of the planet there have been periods where we have more intense weather than we see now. Climate related deaths are actually much lower than they use to be because we have adapted. The ice age was 11 degrees cooler than our average global temperatures today and the last glacial maximum was over 20,000 years ago. If you go back and watch the news broadcasts from the 70s up to now they always make claims of extreme things that could destroy mankind and it is always 10-15 years down the road. I could list more than a dozen predictions by media, Al Gore, etc and none of them have happened.

One good example is before we had any carbon emissions the planet had a massive super continent called Pangaea and they broke off to give us all the ones we have now. Could you imagine what the media would say if our plates were shifting a massive rates or causing huge chunks of land to break off like they once did?

The USA is one of the most environment friendly countries in the world. China emits more carbon by far than we do and if carbon is really doing damage then we should get China under control but many of our politicians are bought off by them so they won't.

Please don't confuse mass media that is going for ads and viewers, and now clicks with peer-reviewed science. And computer modeling and the science of has come a long way in 40 years. Everyone wants to bring up Al Gore. He is no scientist. Show me a recent paper or any paper that is peer-reviewed that has every mentioned a cataclysmic event due to climate change. I may have missed something, but what I have read has used the frog in boiling water analogy to express what is happening.

As far as Pangaea is concerned. Please tell me you do not have a science degree from anywhere and certainly not App State. One, we had carbon emissions in the time of Pangaea. Volcanoes would have been the largest contributor but forest fires and such happened then I would think from lightening strikes and such. Those things still happen. And some of that is good. We do need carbon in the air or it would be a bit too cold for us as humans, at least as we exist now. We just don't need 421 ppm. Second, if I am reading what you wrote it seems you are suggesting the plates do not move now. They certainly are moving and large chucks will break off in the future if the speed and direction of plate movement continues as it has in the past. The horn of Africa is not going to be attached any more than Madagascar is now and it is the same diverging plate boundary making this happen from what I have read. But it is going to be slow and not noticeable by anyone not studying with high precision equipment.

I need you to define "massive rates." It was likely faster at that point in geologic time, but still not so fast that you would likely notice much, or any, change in one lifetime unless you lived right near a boundary and then had the foresight to place markers on both sides of the plate boundary. You don't likely notice the 1 m change in plate location over your lifetime, but it is happening. We have a ton of evidence at the geologic record and magnetic fields embedded in the rocks. If I misread what you were getting at with the Pangaea comment then you might need to elaborate.

I am going to start a thread on some basic science. I am curious how much the typical App State fan (and therefore likely App State grad) knows about some basic science. Maybe a few will learn a few things, and I know I will so it will be good for me to review and clarify ideas I have not studied as much of late. And maybe I am even proven wrong on some concepts. I can't be the only science major on YC. If I am wrong on something and someone educates me then all the better for me and anyone else that learns something. It need not be political so hopefully the mods allow this.

My original major was Biology with a minor in Chemistry. I should go back and finish those..... I originally wanted to be a biologist for NC Fisheries. I found out that chasing people and driving fast was more fun...... so I got me a little science background.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

Luke and Eric need to do the National Anthem then helicopter back to Charlotte. Would that not be great!!!

Given the fact that climate change is mostly driven by carbon in the atmosphere and hurricanes are getting worse due to climate change I would like to see them due something that is a bit greener.

That is funny but since I am not sure if you are serious I will take the bait in case we have some who are worried about it. Climate change is real as we are going through some shifts in weather but not because of carbon in the atmosphere. These massive private jets cause 100x more of it than our cars do. If the people who preach it to us most would set the example and stop flying private jets that would help way more than anything you or I can do.

If you do non-partisan research look at temperatures and weather over the entire life of the planet there have been periods where we have more intense weather than we see now. Climate related deaths are actually much lower than they use to be because we have adapted. The ice age was 11 degrees cooler than our average global temperatures today and the last glacial maximum was over 20,000 years ago. If you go back and watch the news broadcasts from the 70s up to now they always make claims of extreme things that could destroy mankind and it is always 10-15 years down the road. I could list more than a dozen predictions by media, Al Gore, etc and none of them have happened.

One good example is before we had any carbon emissions the planet had a massive super continent called Pangaea and they broke off to give us all the ones we have now. Could you imagine what the media would say if our plates were shifting a massive rates or causing huge chunks of land to break off like they once did?

The USA is one of the most environment friendly countries in the world. China emits more carbon by far than we do and if carbon is really doing damage then we should get China under control but many of our politicians are bought off by them so they won't.

Please don't confuse mass media that is going for ads and viewers, and now clicks with peer-reviewed science. And computer modeling and the science of has come a long way in 40 years. Everyone wants to bring up Al Gore. He is no scientist. Show me a recent paper or any paper that is peer-reviewed that has every mentioned a cataclysmic event due to climate change. I may have missed something, but what I have read has used the frog in boiling water analogy to express what is happening.

As far as Pangaea is concerned. Please tell me you do not have a science degree from anywhere and certainly not App State. One, we had carbon emissions in the time of Pangaea. Volcanoes would have been the largest contributor but forest fires and such happened then I would think from lightening strikes and such. Those things still happen. And some of that is good. We do need carbon in the air or it would be a bit too cold for us as humans, at least as we exist now. We just don't need 421 ppm. Second, if I am reading what you wrote it seems you are suggesting the plates do not move now. They certainly are moving and large chucks will break off in the future if the speed and direction of plate movement continues as it has in the past. The horn of Africa is not going to be attached any more than Madagascar is now and it is the same diverging plate boundary making this happen from what I have read. But it is going to be slow and not noticeable by anyone not studying with high precision equipment.

I need you to define "massive rates." It was likely faster at that point in geologic time, but still not so fast that you would likely notice much, or any, change in one lifetime unless you lived right near a boundary and then had the foresight to place markers on both sides of the plate boundary. You don't likely notice the 1 m change in plate location over your lifetime, but it is happening. We have a ton of evidence at the geologic record and magnetic fields embedded in the rocks. If I misread what you were getting at with the Pangaea comment then you might need to elaborate.

I am going to start a thread on some basic science. I am curious how much the typical App State fan (and therefore likely App State grad) knows about some basic science. Maybe a few will learn a few things, and I know I will so it will be good for me to review and clarify ideas I have not studied as much of late. And maybe I am even proven wrong on some concepts. I can't be the only science major on YC. If I am wrong on something and someone educates me then all the better for me and anyone else that learns something. It need not be political so hopefully the mods allow this.

My original major was Biology with a minor in Chemistry. I should go back and finish those..... I originally wanted to be a biologist for NC Fisheries. I found out that chasing people and driving fast was more fun...... so I got me a little science background.

How far did you get with the Bio major?

I can't speak for nowadays, but of those that graduated with me and a year before and the chem majors I knew (my wife is a chem major from App) I knew of 1 person that was a bit wild as you describe. This person did not graduate but was in the dual App Physics/Auburn Engineering dual degree program and transferred to Auburn if my memory is correct. I clearly am not smart enough and have enough extra brain cells to waste. I was not the most studious but did what I could with what I have. I surrounded myself with others that were also bookish so I would not be distracted, and I would have been

[ASUTodd]

Given the fact that climate change is mostly driven by carbon in the atmosphere and hurricanes are getting worse due to climate change I would like to see them due something that is a bit greener.

That is funny but since I am not sure if you are serious I will take the bait in case we have some who are worried about it. Climate change is real as we are going through some shifts in weather but not because of carbon in the atmosphere. These massive private jets cause 100x more of it than our cars do. If the people who preach it to us most would set the example and stop flying private jets that would help way more than anything you or I can do.

If you do non-partisan research look at temperatures and weather over the entire life of the planet there have been periods where we have more intense weather than we see now. Climate related deaths are actually much lower than they use to be because we have adapted. The ice age was 11 degrees cooler than our average global temperatures today and the last glacial maximum was over 20,000 years ago. If you go back and watch the news broadcasts from the 70s up to now they always make claims of extreme things that could destroy mankind and it is always 10-15 years down the road. I could list more than a dozen predictions by media, Al Gore, etc and none of them have happened.

One good example is before we had any carbon emissions the planet had a massive super continent called Pangaea and they broke off to give us all the ones we have now. Could you imagine what the media would say if our plates were shifting a massive rates or causing huge chunks of land to break off like they once did?

The USA is one of the most environment friendly countries in the world. China emits more carbon by far than we do and if carbon is really doing damage then we should get China under control but many of our politicians are bought off by them so they won't.

Please don't confuse mass media that is going for ads and viewers, and now clicks with peer-reviewed science. And computer modeling and the science of has come a long way in 40 years. Everyone wants to bring up Al Gore. He is no scientist. Show me a recent paper or any paper that is peer-reviewed that has every mentioned a cataclysmic event due to climate change. I may have missed something, but what I have read has used the frog in boiling water analogy to express what is happening.

As far as Pangaea is concerned. Please tell me you do not have a science degree from anywhere and certainly not App State. One, we had carbon emissions in the time of Pangaea. Volcanoes would have been the largest contributor but forest fires and such happened then I would think from lightening strikes and such. Those things still happen. And some of that is good. We do need carbon in the air or it would be a bit too cold for us as humans, at least as we exist now. We just don't need 421 ppm. Second, if I am reading what you wrote it seems you are suggesting the plates do not move now. They certainly are moving and large chucks will break off in the future if the speed and direction of plate movement continues as it has in the past. The horn of Africa is not going to be attached any more than Madagascar is now and it is the same diverging plate boundary making this happen from what I have read. But it is going to be slow and not noticeable by anyone not studying with high precision equipment.

I need you to define "massive rates." It was likely faster at that point in geologic time, but still not so fast that you would likely notice much, or any, change in one lifetime unless you lived right near a boundary and then had the foresight to place markers on both sides of the plate boundary. You don't likely notice the 1 m change in plate location over your lifetime, but it is happening. We have a ton of evidence at the geologic record and magnetic fields embedded in the rocks. If I misread what you were getting at with the Pangaea comment then you might need to elaborate.

I am going to start a thread on some basic science. I am curious how much the typical App State fan (and therefore likely App State grad) knows about some basic science. Maybe a few will learn a few things, and I know I will so it will be good for me to review and clarify ideas I have not studied as much of late. And maybe I am even proven wrong on some concepts. I can't be the only science major on YC. If I am wrong on something and someone educates me then all the better for me and anyone else that learns something. It need not be political so hopefully the mods allow this.

My original major was Biology with a minor in Chemistry. I should go back and finish those..... I originally wanted to be a biologist for NC Fisheries. I found out that chasing people and driving fast was more fun...... so I got me a little science background.

How far did you get with the Bio major?

I can't speak for nowadays, but of those that graduated with me and a year before and the chem majors I knew (my wife is a chem major from App) I knew of 1 person that was a bit wild as you describe. This person did not graduate but was in the dual App Physics/Auburn Engineering dual degree program and transferred to Auburn if my memory is correct. I clearly am not smart enough and have enough extra brain cells to waste. I was not the most studious but did what I could with what I have. I surrounded myself with others that were also bookish so I would not be distracted, and I would have been

Bio 1 & 2
Labs for both of those
Botany
Evolutionary Biology
Chem 1 & 2
Labs for both
Organic Chemistry
and one Geology class.
I then switched to Criminal Justice with a minor in psychology.... should have stuck with the science. Although, that abnormal psych class was a trip!

[AppStFan1]

Luke and Eric need to do the National Anthem then helicopter back to Charlotte. Would that not be great!!!

Given the fact that climate change is mostly driven by carbon in the atmosphere and hurricanes are getting worse due to climate change I would like to see them due something that is a bit greener.

That is funny but since I am not sure if you are serious I will take the bait in case we have some who are worried about it. Climate change is real as we are going through some shifts in weather but not because of carbon in the atmosphere. These massive private jets cause 100x more of it than our cars do. If the people who preach it to us most would set the example and stop flying private jets that would help way more than anything you or I can do.

If you do non-partisan research look at temperatures and weather over the entire life of the planet there have been periods where we have more intense weather than we see now. Climate related deaths are actually much lower than they use to be because we have adapted. The ice age was 11 degrees cooler than our average global temperatures today and the last glacial maximum was over 20,000 years ago. If you go back and watch the news broadcasts from the 70s up to now they always make claims of extreme things that could destroy mankind and it is always 10-15 years down the road. I could list more than a dozen predictions by media, Al Gore, etc and none of them have happened.

One good example is before we had any carbon emissions the planet had a massive super continent called Pangaea and they broke off to give us all the ones we have now. Could you imagine what the media would say if our plates were shifting a massive rates or causing huge chunks of land to break off like they once did?

The USA is one of the most environment friendly countries in the world. China emits more carbon by far than we do and if carbon is really doing damage then we should get China under control but many of our politicians are bought off by them so they won't.

Please don't confuse mass media that is going for ads and viewers, and now clicks with peer-reviewed science. And computer modeling and the science of has come a long way in 40 years. Everyone wants to bring up Al Gore. He is no scientist. Show me a recent paper or any paper that is peer-reviewed that has every mentioned a cataclysmic event due to climate change. I may have missed something, but what I have read has used the frog in boiling water analogy to express what is happening.

As far as Pangaea is concerned. Please tell me you do not have a science degree from anywhere and certainly not App State. One, we had carbon emissions in the time of Pangaea. Volcanoes would have been the largest contributor but forest fires and such happened then I would think from lightening strikes and such. Those things still happen. And some of that is good. We do need carbon in the air or it would be a bit too cold for us as humans, at least as we exist now. We just don't need 421 ppm. Second, if I am reading what you wrote it seems you are suggesting the plates do not move now. They certainly are moving and large chucks will break off in the future if the speed and direction of plate movement continues as it has in the past. The horn of Africa is not going to be attached any more than Madagascar is now and it is the same diverging plate boundary making this happen from what I have read. But it is going to be slow and not noticeable by anyone not studying with high precision equipment.

I need you to define "massive rates." It was likely faster at that point in geologic time, but still not so fast that you would likely notice much, or any, change in one lifetime unless you lived right near a boundary and then had the foresight to place markers on both sides of the plate boundary. You don't likely notice the 1 m change in plate location over your lifetime, but it is happening. We have a ton of evidence at the geologic record and magnetic fields embedded in the rocks. If I misread what you were getting at with the Pangaea comment then you might need to elaborate.

I am going to start a thread on some basic science. I am curious how much the typical App State fan (and therefore likely App State grad) knows about some basic science. Maybe a few will learn a few things, and I know I will so it will be good for me to review and clarify ideas I have not studied as much of late. And maybe I am even proven wrong on some concepts. I can't be the only science major on YC. If I am wrong on something and someone educates me then all the better for me and anyone else that learns something. It need not be political so hopefully the mods allow this.

I know where I live we use to get snow regularly in the winter but now we don't. Boone does not get hit as hard as it use to but at some point it will shift back to heavier snow. You and me driving a gas powered car is not influencing that.

Go back and listen to the media and all of their predictions from scientists and none of them have happened. We have been told at least 3-4 times that the end of the earth is coming if we don't act fast. None of it has happened. Research weather over the entire history of when they were keeping track and we have had major changes happen well before we had cars. Have you ever noticed how every time the media or politicians use fear over an issue that it results in us paying higher taxes and the government gets more bloated but the issue is never really fixed?

I remember telling someone many years ago that over this they would try to push electric cars because of control but use the environment as the excuse. They have the ability to connect to your phone so your data is uploaded and thus allows them to know more about you. I was told I was paranoid but if you look at that bill that I think was signed in 2021 it has a censor or switch that goes off if you go over a certain speed mandated in there. You would also punch your destination into your car and the car could say you are not allowed to go there and shut down. You can push a button in there that will allow you to go 15 seconds over the speed allowed for emergency but that is it. It could also say you can't drive today because you drove too much and have used up all carbon credits. It sounds great that it would stop speeding but many places depend on revenue from speeding tickets to help with budget and it would vastly control your ability to move around. Now they will need more money so I'm sure we will see tax increases even more.
Most Americans did not read this stuff and have no clue about it but it is in there buried in the hundreds of pages. All of it is to help with climate change and stop speeding but it will vastly limit your freedom of mobility but we have people who want that!

I will give you an interesting example of a continent that will see a heavy change long after we are dead. The Afar Rift will likely connect the Red Sea and Arabian sea in a way that will turn into a new ocean and release the horn of Africa from its land mass. There will be countries that will now have an ocean border.

I would definitely welcome a thread talking about the science as long as it is proven stuff and we know that the scientists don't have a certain political lean and it is based on factual data. I don't want to hear predictions of doom and gloom but the actual data. If we can get that I would 100% welcome it. I am sure both of us and others would learn something.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

Looks like it was 1 to 1.5 years depending on what you mean by Organic. If you got past Organic Chemistry 1 or maybe you got past Organic 1 and 2 you should have stuck it out. I found the sophomore courses the hardest and then it got a bit easier. Though easier is a relative term. I can't speak for other science majors but my non-major classes had a much higher GPA than the classes in physics. Bio and Chem GPA (I had through Organic 1) was higher than physics for that matter.

I can never see or hear the word abnormal and not think of Young Frankenstein.

[AppinVA]

So, the football game…

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

So, the football game…

Given the way the season has gone, this is the most I can muster.

Actually I would like to get to this game so I need to start seeing what is for sell. I always give to Athletics if anyone sells me a ticket under their cost. I need to look that thread I guess.

[1997CLT]

So, the football game…

Given the way the season has gone, this is the most I can muster.

Actually I would like to get to this game so I need to start seeing what is for sell. I always give to Athletics if anyone sells me a ticket under their cost. I need to look that thread I guess.

Are you saying you're only buying a ticket if someone sells you one at a loss, or are you saying you'll make up the difference by donating the difference to the athletic dept?

I'm not sure we got a ticket by ticket price. I paid $x for the season + my Yosef donation, and don't recall prices on a per game basis.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

So, the football game…

Given the way the season has gone, this is the most I can muster.

Actually I would like to get to this game so I need to start seeing what is for sell. I always give to Athletics if anyone sells me a ticket under their cost. I need to look that thread I guess.

Are you saying you're only buying a ticket if someone sells you one at a loss, or are you saying you'll make up the difference by donating the difference to the athletic dept?

I'm not sure we got a ticket by ticket price. I paid $x for the season + my Yosef donation, and don't recall prices on a per game basis.

The later. If I pay less than what I can get from the ticket office then I donate the difference to athletics. If you take all you gave to get those tickets and divide it out by the number of games you have your per game price. If that is something I can afford I make up the difference. Otherwise I can just buy straight from the ticket office and all the money goes to App, though the ticket may not be as good and I don't mind helping out someone that needs to unload some tickets. I try to make it so App State is not out of the transaction completely.

[1997CLT]

So, the football game…

Given the way the season has gone, this is the most I can muster.

Actually I would like to get to this game so I need to start seeing what is for sell. I always give to Athletics if anyone sells me a ticket under their cost. I need to look that thread I guess.

Are you saying you're only buying a ticket if someone sells you one at a loss, or are you saying you'll make up the difference by donating the difference to the athletic dept?

I'm not sure we got a ticket by ticket price. I paid $x for the season + my Yosef donation, and don't recall prices on a per game basis.

The later. If I pay less than what I can get from the ticket office then I donate the difference to athletics. If you take all you gave to get those tickets and divide it out by the number of games you have your per game price. If that is something I can afford I make up the difference. Otherwise I can just buy straight from the ticket office and all the money goes to App, though the ticket may not be as good and I don't mind helping out someone that needs to unload some tickets. I try to make it so App State is not out of the transaction completely.

not trying to be pedantic, but games are not all priced the same, at least single game tickets arent.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

So, the football game…

Given the way the season has gone, this is the most I can muster.

Actually I would like to get to this game so I need to start seeing what is for sell. I always give to Athletics if anyone sells me a ticket under their cost. I need to look that thread I guess.

Are you saying you're only buying a ticket if someone sells you one at a loss, or are you saying you'll make up the difference by donating the difference to the athletic dept?

I'm not sure we got a ticket by ticket price. I paid $x for the season + my Yosef donation, and don't recall prices on a per game basis.

The later. If I pay less than what I can get from the ticket office then I donate the difference to athletics. If you take all you gave to get those tickets and divide it out by the number of games you have your per game price. If that is something I can afford I make up the difference. Otherwise I can just buy straight from the ticket office and all the money goes to App, though the ticket may not be as good and I don't mind helping out someone that needs to unload some tickets. I try to make it so App State is not out of the transaction completely.

not trying to be pedantic, but games are not all priced the same, at least single game tickets arent.

That is correct. I do what I can to help out App State Athletics. I can't afford to purchase tickets I can't use and with a M-F job and a weekend gig I don't have time to get to that many games. When I can get to a game I sometimes purchase from App State and often I pick up a ticket that is not being used by someone else. I am sure App State would prefer I purchase from them. All I am saying is that I kick some money over to App State if I purchase a ticket from the secondary market. I don't see any need to make this complicated, and I may give to the penny (or I may give a few dollars more.) Daphne Urquhart gave me some primo seats one time. I clearly gave money to App State when that happened some years ago. I may not have given the actual price to App State as those were nice seats but I did give something. That is the best I can do without hiring an accountant, and I would rather give the money to App State than hire an accountant, though we do produce lots of great accountants.

[asumba95]

This reminds me that I need to go outside and turn on my global warming machine