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Re: QB play has to catch up

Unread post by HighPointApp » Tue Sep 05, 2017 3:37 pm

For the love of God and Country!!! Please, please, please........LET IT GO!!!

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Re: QB play has to catch up

Unread post by TheMackAttack » Tue Sep 05, 2017 4:25 pm

bigdaddyg wrote:
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Two years ago Taylor Lamb was able to make throws down the field as needed to open up the offense. His arm strength didn't get miraculously worse, that team had Malachi Jones, Simms McElfresh, Montez McGuire, Bobo Beathard, and Shaedon Meadors as its top five receivers. What happened is simple, the guys that Stepp recruited may have been great athletes but they didn't have what it takes to be successful at App, with Meadors being the only exception.
I do some baseball coaching and have a personal policy. I don't get overly excited about a kid who crushes balls in a cage or by a kid who can really "pitch" inside to a catcher. Something happens when the lights come on, a batter gets in the box and people are watching. Same goes for practice superstars. We read all preseason about how great our receivers looked and how fantastic their catches were. I'm not selling any of them short or writing anyone off at all. It's just way different when it counts especially in front of 70,000 people and knowing the cameras are on. Same goes for a punter. We had two KIDS punting for real for the first time. I give both credit for simply catching the balls and punting without fumbling or shanking any.
I think you missed an important piece of that post, the guys that Stepp recruited. Hopkins, Barbour, Noil, Armstrong, none of them made a difference here. I think that Hennigan especially is going to be a difference maker at App. He has that Simms McElfresh attitude with the height and athleticism that can't be taught.
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Unread post by AppSt94 » Tue Sep 05, 2017 7:37 pm

WVAPPeer wrote:
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Don't have a clue about the family - what's the deal?
He has two teenage brothers that make their living on YouTube and Vine, whatever that is. The have a younger half sister that they pull into it as well and even the mom is a social media diva. And from what I have heard down here from Gator fans is that dad is a real douche. But I have always questioned the intellect of Gator fans.

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Unread post by ASUGoose » Tue Sep 05, 2017 10:59 pm

After watching the replay (I was miles up in the App section for the game), the penalties are what was most troubling, more so than the QB play. I think Xavier won the punter role for the immediate time being. Defense looked real solid, nothing to worry about there at all going forward, even against Wake. Taylor will do just fine against the the type of talent we will face for the rest of the season. Zach Thomas looks to have a quick release and strong arm. Future looks bright at the QB position, especially if the backup role was neck and neck b/w him and Huesman. Sky definitely isn't falling as long as we clean up the penalties.

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Unread post by T-Dog » Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:20 pm

You can trace 4-5 big points in the game to a personal foul penalty. I won't say App wins without those penalties, but it's more of a game for longer than UGA would have been comfortable with.

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Unread post by Rekdiver » Wed Sep 06, 2017 6:48 am

Back to Taylor, I've mentioned it in several posts about UGA. Go back and look at film and tell us what open receiver he missed. Our guys couldn't get open over the middle or down the field.

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Unread post by DaphneUrquhart » Wed Sep 06, 2017 7:01 am

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Well let's put it this way you can only pay the players a minimal amount to play, BUT you can pay the department a million dollars for them to play so that staff and coaches can make way too much money.
The scholarship bill for our 450 student-athletes is over $6,000,000 per year. The Yosef Club raises less than $3,500,000 per year. Those "money games" are a necessity to help with funding scholarships and go far beyond just the football team.
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Back to Taylor, I've mentioned it in several posts about UGA. Go back and look at film and tell us what open receiver he missed. Our guys couldn't get open over the middle or down the field.
Absolutely Rek - that "almost" TD pass in the endzone where the TE couldn't bring it in could not have been thrown any better - the defender was all over Reed (I believe it was him) ---
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Unread post by AppSt94 » Wed Sep 06, 2017 7:28 am

WVAPPeer wrote:
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Wed Sep 06, 2017 6:48 am
Back to Taylor, I've mentioned it in several posts about UGA. Go back and look at film and tell us what open receiver he missed. Our guys couldn't get open over the middle or down the field.
Absolutely Rek - that "almost" TD pass in the endzone where the TE couldn't bring it in could not have been thrown any better - the defender was all over Reed (I believe it was him) ---
Now you are talking crazy guys. No one cares about the throws that he makes. They are too busy focused on the ones that he can't.

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Re: QB play has to catch up

Unread post by bcoach » Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:37 am

DaphneUrquhart wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2017 7:01 am
bcoach wrote:
Tue Sep 05, 2017 3:22 pm
Well let's put it this way you can only pay the players a minimal amount to play, BUT you can pay the department a million dollars for them to play so that staff and coaches can make way too much money.
The scholarship bill for our 450 student-athletes is over $6,000,000 per year. The Yosef Club raises less than $3,500,000 per year. Those "money games" are a necessity to help with funding scholarships and go far beyond just the football team.
I have said before that I understand that. It is just a shame that it is necessary. It is not what college sports should be about.

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Unread post by bigdaddyg » Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:51 am

bcoach wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:37 am
DaphneUrquhart wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2017 7:01 am
bcoach wrote:
Tue Sep 05, 2017 3:22 pm
Well let's put it this way you can only pay the players a minimal amount to play, BUT you can pay the department a million dollars for them to play so that staff and coaches can make way too much money.
The scholarship bill for our 450 student-athletes is over $6,000,000 per year. The Yosef Club raises less than $3,500,000 per year. Those "money games" are a necessity to help with funding scholarships and go far beyond just the football team.
I have said before that I understand that. It is just a shame that it is necessary. It is not what college sports should be about.
Hence the Catch 22! I would say that a majority of us would prefer the Peer games rather than the sheer money grab and subsequent butt whooping but we simply can't have it all

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Unread post by NewApp » Wed Sep 06, 2017 9:17 am

DaphneUrquhart wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2017 7:01 am
bcoach wrote:
Tue Sep 05, 2017 3:22 pm
Well let's put it this way you can only pay the players a minimal amount to play, BUT you can pay the department a million dollars for them to play so that staff and coaches can make way too much money.
The scholarship bill for our 450 student-athletes is over $6,000,000 per year. The Yosef Club raises less than $3,500,000 per year. Those "money games" are a necessity to help with funding scholarships and go far beyond just the football team.

Daphne, do you know how much we cleared off the U Georgia game?
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Unread post by Rekdiver » Wed Sep 06, 2017 9:46 am

NewApp wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2017 9:17 am
DaphneUrquhart wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2017 7:01 am
bcoach wrote:
Tue Sep 05, 2017 3:22 pm
Well let's put it this way you can only pay the players a minimal amount to play, BUT you can pay the department a million dollars for them to play so that staff and coaches can make way too much money.
The scholarship bill for our 450 student-athletes is over $6,000,000 per year. The Yosef Club raises less than $3,500,000 per year. Those "money games" are a necessity to help with funding scholarships and go far beyond just the football team.

Daphne, do you know how much we cleared off the U Georgia game?
It depends on if the team ate at Denny's or Crackerbarrel

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Unread post by App91 » Wed Sep 06, 2017 2:35 pm

Rekdiver wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2017 6:48 am
Back to Taylor, I've mentioned it in several posts about UGA. Go back and look at film and tell us what open receiver he missed. Our guys couldn't get open over the middle or down the field.
Was sitting in the end zone, we note on three occasions where there was an open receiver middle 15 or so yards downfield. Have not yet watched replay, may have to tonite. Off the top of my head one of those was before a throw out of bounds. There was also one on the one handed catch, but that is not counted above.

Some of you guys act as if his character or manhood has been questioned. Who would have thought that such discussions occur on a message board.

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Unread post by NattyBumppo'sRevenge » Wed Sep 06, 2017 2:59 pm

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You can trace 4-5 big points in the game to a personal foul penalty. I won't say App wins without those penalties, but it's more of a game for longer than UGA would have been comfortable with.
We don't get a late hit on Eason and injure him, he stays in the game and UGA doesn't game 2nd quarter momentum at that point.

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NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
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T-Dog wrote:
Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:20 pm
You can trace 4-5 big points in the game to a personal foul penalty. I won't say App wins without those penalties, but it's more of a game for longer than UGA would have been comfortable with.
We don't get a late hit on Eason and injure him, he stays in the game and UGA doesn't game 2nd quarter momentum at that point.
I don't think the hit caused Eason's injury. I think he caught his cleat in the turf. I saw a picture that was taken just before Stout touched him and it looked as if he had come up lame before the contact.

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Unread post by App91 » Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:47 pm

NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2017 2:59 pm
T-Dog wrote:
Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:20 pm
You can trace 4-5 big points in the game to a personal foul penalty. I won't say App wins without those penalties, but it's more of a game for longer than UGA would have been comfortable with.
We don't get a late hit on Eason and injure him, he stays in the game and UGA doesn't game 2nd quarter momentum at that point.
Guys behind me (a gumroot to boot) tapped me on the shoulder and said you guys just lost the game, when Fromm came on the field.

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Unread post by AppDawg » Wed Sep 06, 2017 7:58 pm

App91 wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:47 pm
NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2017 2:59 pm
T-Dog wrote:
Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:20 pm
You can trace 4-5 big points in the game to a personal foul penalty. I won't say App wins without those penalties, but it's more of a game for longer than UGA would have been comfortable with.
We don't get a late hit on Eason and injure him, he stays in the game and UGA doesn't game 2nd quarter momentum at that point.
Guys behind me (a gumroot to boot) tapped me on the shoulder and said you guys just lost the game, when Fromm came on the field.
I had been telling several folks that all last week. If Eason is in, we'll be decent. If Kirby puts Fromm in, we are in trouble. More of a true dual threat QB.

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Re: QB play has to catch up

Unread post by Rick83 » Thu Sep 07, 2017 11:33 am

Well, I just hope that our next QB1 goes undefeated including against upper tier P5 teams, even teams that make it to the national championship game like Clemson. I imagine that even if we did go undefeated there'd still be complaints about the margin of victory not being big enough. TL is one of the greatest QBs we've had the good fortune to wear the black & gold, and he did it during a tough time period while we were transitioning up to FBS. He's got nothing but my total admiration and support.

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