I don’t realistically see us paying out more than $600,000. The buy out gives him his base salary, $600,000 for the remainder of the contract but it requires him to make a good faith effort to find another job and what he gets paid from that job offsets the buy out. He made 1mil as a position coach at USC. I don’t see him sitting around collecting $600k from us when he could be making more coaching. He’s only 44, if he screws around and sits out of football for 4 years in a spiteful way to collect our money he’s done. At best after tax he keeps $300k per year or $1.2mil over 4 years. That want set anybody up for life. He’s going to get another job.BambooRdApp wrote: ↑Sun Nov 16, 2025 3:42 pmIt was my bad. Agreed. It is over $2.0 million.. would we pay that or even $1.5 million after just one year?Mjohn1988 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 16, 2025 3:32 pmI read the contract, I don’t see anything remotely close to a 4 million buy out. I could be completely wrong. Show me.BambooRdApp wrote: ↑Sun Nov 16, 2025 2:59 pmZero. Unless you will pony up $4 million for the buyout
If we pay this out, how does that restrict the compensation to a new coach and/or overall funding for the program. I am not advocating for or against the idea...just thinking about this from a financial perspective. How deep are the pockets of our rich donors that fund these types of ideas.
At the end of the day, the overall athletic department needs App St. football to be successful to a certain degree I would believe.
FB at No. 24 JMU, 3:30 p.m., ESPN+
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North Texas ranked in the Tol 25 for the first time since 1956.
I know it was 3 years ago, but Cam Peoples ran for 250 yards on them in our Bowl win.
If they can do it, why can’t we?
I know it was 3 years ago, but Cam Peoples ran for 250 yards on them in our Bowl win.
If they can do it, why can’t we?
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That is the part that stings the most. These other programs don’t have some magical access to an abundance of resources we don’t have.
Or are we not spending our donations and ticket revenues on areas that are producing results.
Or are we not spending our donations and ticket revenues on areas that are producing results.
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A few years you say?appgrad95&97 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 16, 2025 3:34 pmI totally understand how frustrating this season is. It is tough to watch a problem that we've made emotional and financial investments in look this bad. But to talk about firing a coach after year one makes us look as irrational as Auburn, and not even they pull the trigger this fast.
Also, I didn't think his post game comments were that bad. He mentioned that talent disparity several times. We don't look like a good team because we're not. His job is to fix that. That's going to take a few years. This season is worse than I expected, but any coach would need some time to fix these problems. Problems that have been there for several years.
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Sparky Wood was 4-7 in 1984.Seattleapp wrote: ↑Sun Nov 16, 2025 4:25 pmA few years you say?appgrad95&97 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 16, 2025 3:34 pmI totally understand how frustrating this season is. It is tough to watch a problem that we've made emotional and financial investments in look this bad. But to talk about firing a coach after year one makes us look as irrational as Auburn, and not even they pull the trigger this fast.
Also, I didn't think his post game comments were that bad. He mentioned that talent disparity several times. We don't look like a good team because we're not. His job is to fix that. That's going to take a few years. This season is worse than I expected, but any coach would need some time to fix these problems. Problems that have been there for several years.
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Someone not wanting to be in a certain location is not a recipe to tank at your job. There are only so many HC, OC jobs. Great way to hurt your reputation and prospects by tanking.
I would think he would want to do the opposite.
Win your way to next opportunity.. just my opinion
I would think he would want to do the opposite.
Win your way to next opportunity.. just my opinion
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"They are great, I was impresses with how they played, they recruit really well. And, we need to get better......blah blah blah"
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Arkansas is gonna need an ocBambooRdApp wrote: ↑Sun Nov 16, 2025 4:53 pmSomeone not wanting to be in a certain location is not a recipe to tank at your job. There are only so many HC, OC jobs. Great way to hurt your reputation and prospects by tanking.
I would think he would want to do the opposite.
Win your way to next opportunity.. just my opinion
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Probably notSaint3333 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 16, 2025 1:35 pmCan you submit them ahead of time?BUTCH1991 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 16, 2025 1:30 pmPut those questions in the live stream of tomorrow's press conference and see if they get asked. Those are all legit and good questions.Saint3333 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 16, 2025 1:26 pmWish we had some media presence that would ask questions like:
- what were you thinking on the fake punt
- why did you stay with an obviously injured Swann
- TOP really hindered a defense that performed ok to start, was that discussed in the game plan during the week?
- Which areas of the game would you say this team has improved in?
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Enough of this negativity. How about those Watauga Pioneers! 8 straight conference football championships and not lost a conference game in three years. Currently ranked #1 in the new State 6A conference football system.
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Because we have Doug Gillin, Tommy Sofield and Mark Ricks hiring football coaches.