FB at No. 24 JMU, 3:30 p.m., ESPN+

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Re: FB at No. 24 JMU, 3:30 p.m., ESPN+

Unread post by Mjohn1988 » Sun Nov 16, 2025 3:52 pm

BambooRdApp wrote:
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Mjohn1988 wrote:
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BambooRdApp wrote:
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yosef69 wrote:
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What are the odds we see a clean break with Dowell? Looking at him with Chesney last night, with his kid on the sideline, and the post game presser, he certainly looks checked out.

I realize he would be leaving money on the table probably.
Zero. Unless you will pony up $4 million for the buyout
I read the contract, I don’t see anything remotely close to a 4 million buy out. I could be completely wrong. Show me.
It was my bad. Agreed. It is over $2.0 million.. would we pay that or even $1.5 million after just one year?
If we pay this out, how does that restrict the compensation to a new coach and/or overall funding for the program. I am not advocating for or against the idea...just thinking about this from a financial perspective. How deep are the pockets of our rich donors that fund these types of ideas.
At the end of the day, the overall athletic department needs App St. football to be successful to a certain degree I would believe.
I don’t realistically see us paying out more than $600,000. The buy out gives him his base salary, $600,000 for the remainder of the contract but it requires him to make a good faith effort to find another job and what he gets paid from that job offsets the buy out. He made 1mil as a position coach at USC. I don’t see him sitting around collecting $600k from us when he could be making more coaching. He’s only 44, if he screws around and sits out of football for 4 years in a spiteful way to collect our money he’s done. At best after tax he keeps $300k per year or $1.2mil over 4 years. That want set anybody up for life. He’s going to get another job.

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Re: FB at No. 24 JMU, 3:30 p.m., ESPN+

Unread post by 311neers » Sun Nov 16, 2025 3:53 pm

North Texas ranked in the Tol 25 for the first time since 1956.
I know it was 3 years ago, but Cam Peoples ran for 250 yards on them in our Bowl win.

If they can do it, why can’t we?

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Re: FB at No. 24 JMU, 3:30 p.m., ESPN+

Unread post by Saint3333 » Sun Nov 16, 2025 4:22 pm

That is the part that stings the most. These other programs don’t have some magical access to an abundance of resources we don’t have.

Or are we not spending our donations and ticket revenues on areas that are producing results.

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Re: FB at No. 24 JMU, 3:30 p.m., ESPN+

Unread post by Seattleapp » Sun Nov 16, 2025 4:25 pm

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I totally understand how frustrating this season is. It is tough to watch a problem that we've made emotional and financial investments in look this bad. But to talk about firing a coach after year one makes us look as irrational as Auburn, and not even they pull the trigger this fast.

Also, I didn't think his post game comments were that bad. He mentioned that talent disparity several times. We don't look like a good team because we're not. His job is to fix that. That's going to take a few years. This season is worse than I expected, but any coach would need some time to fix these problems. Problems that have been there for several years.
A few years you say?

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Re: FB at No. 24 JMU, 3:30 p.m., ESPN+

Unread post by appgrad95&97 » Sun Nov 16, 2025 4:30 pm

Seattleapp wrote:
Sun Nov 16, 2025 4:25 pm
appgrad95&97 wrote:
Sun Nov 16, 2025 3:34 pm
I totally understand how frustrating this season is. It is tough to watch a problem that we've made emotional and financial investments in look this bad. But to talk about firing a coach after year one makes us look as irrational as Auburn, and not even they pull the trigger this fast.

Also, I didn't think his post game comments were that bad. He mentioned that talent disparity several times. We don't look like a good team because we're not. His job is to fix that. That's going to take a few years. This season is worse than I expected, but any coach would need some time to fix these problems. Problems that have been there for several years.
A few years you say?
Sparky Wood was 4-7 in 1984.

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Re: FB at No. 24 JMU, 3:30 p.m., ESPN+

Unread post by BambooRdApp » Sun Nov 16, 2025 4:53 pm

Someone not wanting to be in a certain location is not a recipe to tank at your job. There are only so many HC, OC jobs. Great way to hurt your reputation and prospects by tanking.
I would think he would want to do the opposite.
Win your way to next opportunity.. just my opinion
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Re: FB at No. 24 JMU, 3:30 p.m., ESPN+

Unread post by WataugaMan » Sun Nov 16, 2025 4:56 pm

AppWyo wrote:
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Did DL do a post game interview? Can't find it.
"They are great, I was impresses with how they played, they recruit really well. And, we need to get better......blah blah blah"

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Re: FB at No. 24 JMU, 3:30 p.m., ESPN+

Unread post by Seattleapp » Sun Nov 16, 2025 5:29 pm

BambooRdApp wrote:
Sun Nov 16, 2025 4:53 pm
Someone not wanting to be in a certain location is not a recipe to tank at your job. There are only so many HC, OC jobs. Great way to hurt your reputation and prospects by tanking.
I would think he would want to do the opposite.
Win your way to next opportunity.. just my opinion
Arkansas is gonna need an oc

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Re: FB at No. 24 JMU, 3:30 p.m., ESPN+

Unread post by BUTCH1991 » Sun Nov 16, 2025 5:44 pm

Saint3333 wrote:
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BUTCH1991 wrote:
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Saint3333 wrote:
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Wish we had some media presence that would ask questions like:

- what were you thinking on the fake punt
- why did you stay with an obviously injured Swann
- TOP really hindered a defense that performed ok to start, was that discussed in the game plan during the week?
- Which areas of the game would you say this team has improved in?
Put those questions in the live stream of tomorrow's press conference and see if they get asked. Those are all legit and good questions.
Can you submit them ahead of time?
Probably not

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Re: FB at No. 24 JMU, 3:30 p.m., ESPN+

Unread post by WataugaMan » Sun Nov 16, 2025 5:47 pm

Enough of this negativity. How about those Watauga Pioneers! 8 straight conference football championships and not lost a conference game in three years. Currently ranked #1 in the new State 6A conference football system.

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Re: FB at No. 24 JMU, 3:30 p.m., ESPN+

Unread post by AppSt91 » Sun Nov 16, 2025 6:15 pm

311neers wrote:
Sun Nov 16, 2025 3:53 pm
North Texas ranked in the Tol 25 for the first time since 1956.
I know it was 3 years ago, but Cam Peoples ran for 250 yards on them in our Bowl win.

If they can do it, why can’t we?
Because we have Doug Gillin, Tommy Sofield and Mark Ricks hiring football coaches.

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