That is true and the fact they tend to use most of those on OL. Even with that he should have made a team up there. Regardless of what our coaches said about Cam, he must not have noticed that no team he has signed with has said "oh he is not a cancer after all" and choose to keep him. The reality is that none of our fans, outside of maybe a few students and the players, actually know him.AppSt94 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 2:56 pmThe CFL is a numbers game in that you can only have so many non-Canadiens on the team.yosef69 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 12:22 pmAgreed. But in theory he should have the talent to make a cfl team311neers wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 12:08 pmIt's a cut throat position as well. GM's are going to look at P5 backs well before G5 backs with injuries that split time. Cam was great for us, but scouts and GM's want the studs from Bama/Uga/OSU... those teams have 8 RB's that will get looks before our starter gets one.yosef69 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 11:20 amShame that Cam will alienate himself from the fan base and school for a couple of quick views / short term engagement on social media.
There’s a reason a player of his caliber can’t make it in the CFL or make a practice squad. Great player, has the measurables. Something else must be holding him back. That’s all I will say.
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Being a high profile football player in general can open so many doors if you just open them. If he is going to use this to bash coaches who are regarded as moral people then he will close many doors very fast. If he chooses to sling mud he will find himself having trouble getting any help from App alumni and he will begin to hate App but his results are 100% on his actions. One of his teammates needs to pull him aside and have a talk with him.Mjohn1988 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2024 6:16 amI haven’t seen any of Cams post and I will continue to wish him the best. I can tell you that being a former high profile App. State football player can help open doors in the real world. I can also tell you that being a disgruntled former App. State football player isn’t going to make you a living. And that’s not going to change no matter how good you tell the story. I hope the young man decides to use the opportunity afforded to him by his former coaches and App. State.
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We will have to agree to disagree on the statement that he should have made a team. He has the size and speed, but he doesn’t have the “it” factor that separates him from others.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2024 9:30 amThat is true and the fact they tend to use most of those on OL. Even with that he should have made a team up there. Regardless of what our coaches said about Cam, he must not have noticed that no team he has signed with has said "oh he is not a cancer after all" and choose to keep him. The reality is that none of our fans, outside of maybe a few students and the players, actually know him.AppSt94 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 2:56 pmThe CFL is a numbers game in that you can only have so many non-Canadiens on the team.yosef69 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 12:22 pmAgreed. But in theory he should have the talent to make a cfl team311neers wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 12:08 pmIt's a cut throat position as well. GM's are going to look at P5 backs well before G5 backs with injuries that split time. Cam was great for us, but scouts and GM's want the studs from Bama/Uga/OSU... those teams have 8 RB's that will get looks before our starter gets one.yosef69 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 11:20 amShame that Cam will alienate himself from the fan base and school for a couple of quick views / short term engagement on social media.
There’s a reason a player of his caliber can’t make it in the CFL or make a practice squad. Great player, has the measurables. Something else must be holding him back. That’s all I will say.
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I am not saying he should have made the team with how he is now but that if he had a different attitude he should have been able to do enough to make it. I agree he does not have the "it" factor. From the time he stepped on campus he appeared to be a special player but instead of going down as better than John Settle but he only showed flashes and never put it all together. I remember when he showed up that Satterfield said Cam is special and thought he had a NFL future. If he woke up today with the mindset he would change, work hard, and get back to the NFL then I think with enough hard work he could have but I don't see him doing it. I especially don't see it after that short video.AppSt94 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2024 9:43 amWe will have to agree to disagree on the statement that he should have made a team. He has the size and speed, but he doesn’t have the “it” factor that separates him from others.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2024 9:30 amThat is true and the fact they tend to use most of those on OL. Even with that he should have made a team up there. Regardless of what our coaches said about Cam, he must not have noticed that no team he has signed with has said "oh he is not a cancer after all" and choose to keep him. The reality is that none of our fans, outside of maybe a few students and the players, actually know him.AppSt94 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 2:56 pmThe CFL is a numbers game in that you can only have so many non-Canadiens on the team.yosef69 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 12:22 pmAgreed. But in theory he should have the talent to make a cfl team311neers wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 12:08 pm
It's a cut throat position as well. GM's are going to look at P5 backs well before G5 backs with injuries that split time. Cam was great for us, but scouts and GM's want the studs from Bama/Uga/OSU... those teams have 8 RB's that will get looks before our starter gets one.
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Setting aside pass catching ability..Not sure you can always develop the "it" factor that is needed for nfl. Some are instincts, vision and reading the OL blocking at point of attack.
Alabama, Ohio St, etc. have had some good running backs that did well in NFL but quite a few that were good in college. not so good in NFL. Just my opinion
Alabama, Ohio St, etc. have had some good running backs that did well in NFL but quite a few that were good in college. not so good in NFL. Just my opinion
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You must either be an unbelievable exceptional athlete or have an unbelievable work ethic to make the NFL and for most it probably takes both of those things. It takes really, really, really wanting it and a lot of sacrifice. Not saying Cam isn’t a great athlete and not saying he doesn’t have the work ethic. But the margin of error is razor thin.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2024 9:51 amI am not saying he should have made the team with how he is now but that if he had a different attitude he should have been able to do enough to make it. I agree he does not have the "it" factor. From the time he stepped on campus he appeared to be a special player but instead of going down as better than John Settle but he only showed flashes and never put it all together. I remember when he showed up that Satterfield said Cam is special and thought he had a NFL future. If he woke up today with the mindset he would change, work hard, and get back to the NFL then I think with enough hard work he could have but I don't see him doing it. I especially don't see it after that short video.AppSt94 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2024 9:43 amWe will have to agree to disagree on the statement that he should have made a team. He has the size and speed, but he doesn’t have the “it” factor that separates him from others.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2024 9:30 amThat is true and the fact they tend to use most of those on OL. Even with that he should have made a team up there. Regardless of what our coaches said about Cam, he must not have noticed that no team he has signed with has said "oh he is not a cancer after all" and choose to keep him. The reality is that none of our fans, outside of maybe a few students and the players, actually know him.
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If someone says something bad about you and affects your character and how people view you, file a defamation suit. If someone says something bad about your character and work ethic that is true, cry about it on social media.
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1.6% of college football players make the NFL. Just having the physical stature and some of the abilities doesn't cut it. App has only has 5 players play double digit seasons. Corey Lynch played 6. Is Corey a better athlete than Cam, heck no. He had the it factor. There are 100 Cams every year that don't make the NFL. It's like Brian Scalibrini said about the NBA. After he retired he would go to the high end gyms and just wreck all these former college players and good athletes. His comment was, "I'm closer to Kobe than you are to me." The nba sits at 1.2% who make it. It's like the Macho Man Randy Savage always said and I paraphrase "The cream of the crop always rises to the top....I am the cream."
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From what I have heard Cam worked hard but had the track mentality. He would only go if he was 100% and so he held himself out a lot when others were going all out. He is a great athlete but he does not have the determination, toughness, or drive to succeed that it takes and he lacks in a few areas that are needed to even make it in the NFL. He could have developed those things but he never took the time to do so. He relied on his natural ability and that really is not enough to make it.Mjohn1988 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2024 10:06 amYou must either be an unbelievable exceptional athlete or have an unbelievable work ethic to make the NFL and for most it probably takes both of those things. It takes really, really, really wanting it and a lot of sacrifice. Not saying Cam isn’t a great athlete and not saying he doesn’t have the work ethic. But the margin of error is razor thin.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2024 9:51 amI am not saying he should have made the team with how he is now but that if he had a different attitude he should have been able to do enough to make it. I agree he does not have the "it" factor. From the time he stepped on campus he appeared to be a special player but instead of going down as better than John Settle but he only showed flashes and never put it all together. I remember when he showed up that Satterfield said Cam is special and thought he had a NFL future. If he woke up today with the mindset he would change, work hard, and get back to the NFL then I think with enough hard work he could have but I don't see him doing it. I especially don't see it after that short video.AppSt94 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2024 9:43 amWe will have to agree to disagree on the statement that he should have made a team. He has the size and speed, but he doesn’t have the “it” factor that separates him from others.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2024 9:30 amThat is true and the fact they tend to use most of those on OL. Even with that he should have made a team up there. Regardless of what our coaches said about Cam, he must not have noticed that no team he has signed with has said "oh he is not a cancer after all" and choose to keep him. The reality is that none of our fans, outside of maybe a few students and the players, actually know him.
Your comment on the margin of error being razor thin can't be stated enough. You could have even said it is half a razor thin.
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Cam likes the attention, and that’s not always a bad thing. I think he will get his clicks and attention, just not the kind he’s hoping for.
This will most likely go one of two ways. It will either blow up in his face big time, or after a couple “episodes” no one actually cares and it goes away.
I appreciate Cam for what he did for the black and gold. I wish him nothing but the best. However, I have no real interest in any of these “stories.”
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This will most likely go one of two ways. It will either blow up in his face big time, or after a couple “episodes” no one actually cares and it goes away.
I appreciate Cam for what he did for the black and gold. I wish him nothing but the best. However, I have no real interest in any of these “stories.”
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Indeed true. Cam is not the guy who did all the preventative measures to prevent injury, worked twice as hard as everyone, or had the toughness needed to make the NFL. He was super talented and showed it at times but he just did not have the will to make it. I appreciate him staying and for what he did on the field but I was calling it back during his senior year that he would not make it because of the things i was hearing about him taking days off and not being tough enough. The fact he just left the team late in the year and held himself out when healthy just confirmed to me he would not make it. I kept hoping he would wake up but as someone on 247 said he does not take responsibility and is going to blame the coaches for his short comings.appdaze wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2024 2:02 pm1.6% of college football players make the NFL. Just having the physical stature and some of the abilities doesn't cut it. App has only has 5 players play double digit seasons. Corey Lynch played 6. Is Corey a better athlete than Cam, heck no. He had the it factor. There are 100 Cams every year that don't make the NFL. It's like Brian Scalibrini said about the NBA. After he retired he would go to the high end gyms and just wreck all these former college players and good athletes. His comment was, "I'm closer to Kobe than you are to me." The nba sits at 1.2% who make it. It's like the Macho Man Randy Savage always said and I paraphrase "The cream of the crop always rises to the top....I am the cream."
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I am with you on this. If he is smart he will come on and either say he won't do part 2 on that issue or go another route and do more of what Kaiden Smith has done. If he tells part 2 and keeps going it is 100% going to blow up in his face and he will blame fans and/or coaches for it going bad.appstate24 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2024 3:01 pmCam likes the attention, and that’s not always a bad thing. I think he will get his clicks and attention, just not the kind he’s hoping for.
This will most likely go one of two ways. It will either blow up in his face big time, or after a couple “episodes” no one actually cares and it goes away.
I appreciate Cam for what he did for the black and gold. I wish him nothing but the best. However, I have no real interest in any of these “stories.”
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Going into part 2 and telling more of his "stories" will certainly not help his chances with getting back on a pro roster and sticking. If he has a good agent he will tell Cam to zip it up or else the agent will just stop working to get him a shot and let him sink himself.
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The quickest way for this to end is to not respond and no longer talk about it.
Good luck to the young man at the next chapter in his life.
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I think the only going if at 100% says it all. While you want skill guys to play at 100% for many reasons if a key guy sits and is at like 90% that’s tough to see as a fan. How many times have you heard a reference to a star saying that at (certain percentage lower than 100) he is still better than (fill in the blank). When Cam was on and completely focused he was amazing. The perception of many of us was that he appeared to sit out when he could contribute. Like I’ve said we don’t know the details but the perception we had said differently. How many dudes have we seen over the years who played hurt because we needed them and they simply wanted it?AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2024 2:58 pmFrom what I have heard Cam worked hard but had the track mentality. He would only go if he was 100% and so he held himself out a lot when others were going all out. He is a great athlete but he does not have the determination, toughness, or drive to succeed that it takes and he lacks in a few areas that are needed to even make it in the NFL. He could have developed those things but he never took the time to do so. He relied on his natural ability and that really is not enough to make it.Mjohn1988 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2024 10:06 amYou must either be an unbelievable exceptional athlete or have an unbelievable work ethic to make the NFL and for most it probably takes both of those things. It takes really, really, really wanting it and a lot of sacrifice. Not saying Cam isn’t a great athlete and not saying he doesn’t have the work ethic. But the margin of error is razor thin.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2024 9:51 amI am not saying he should have made the team with how he is now but that if he had a different attitude he should have been able to do enough to make it. I agree he does not have the "it" factor. From the time he stepped on campus he appeared to be a special player but instead of going down as better than John Settle but he only showed flashes and never put it all together. I remember when he showed up that Satterfield said Cam is special and thought he had a NFL future. If he woke up today with the mindset he would change, work hard, and get back to the NFL then I think with enough hard work he could have but I don't see him doing it. I especially don't see it after that short video.AppSt94 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2024 9:43 amWe will have to agree to disagree on the statement that he should have made a team. He has the size and speed, but he doesn’t have the “it” factor that separates him from others.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2024 9:30 am
That is true and the fact they tend to use most of those on OL. Even with that he should have made a team up there. Regardless of what our coaches said about Cam, he must not have noticed that no team he has signed with has said "oh he is not a cancer after all" and choose to keep him. The reality is that none of our fans, outside of maybe a few students and the players, actually know him.
Your comment on the margin of error being razor thin can't be stated enough. You could have even said it is half a razor thin.
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If you see it as a fan, imagine what his teammates see.Bigdaddyg1 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2024 7:14 amI think the only going if at 100% says it all. While you want skill guys to play at 100% for many reasons if a key guy sits and is at like 90% that’s tough to see as a fan. How many times have you heard a reference to a star saying that at (certain percentage lower than 100) he is still better than (fill in the blank). When Cam was on and completely focused he was amazing. The perception of many of us was that he appeared to sit out when he could contribute. Like I’ve said we don’t know the details but the perception we had said differently. How many dudes have we seen over the years who played hurt because we needed them and they simply wanted it?AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2024 2:58 pmFrom what I have heard Cam worked hard but had the track mentality. He would only go if he was 100% and so he held himself out a lot when others were going all out. He is a great athlete but he does not have the determination, toughness, or drive to succeed that it takes and he lacks in a few areas that are needed to even make it in the NFL. He could have developed those things but he never took the time to do so. He relied on his natural ability and that really is not enough to make it.Mjohn1988 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2024 10:06 amYou must either be an unbelievable exceptional athlete or have an unbelievable work ethic to make the NFL and for most it probably takes both of those things. It takes really, really, really wanting it and a lot of sacrifice. Not saying Cam isn’t a great athlete and not saying he doesn’t have the work ethic. But the margin of error is razor thin.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2024 9:51 amI am not saying he should have made the team with how he is now but that if he had a different attitude he should have been able to do enough to make it. I agree he does not have the "it" factor. From the time he stepped on campus he appeared to be a special player but instead of going down as better than John Settle but he only showed flashes and never put it all together. I remember when he showed up that Satterfield said Cam is special and thought he had a NFL future. If he woke up today with the mindset he would change, work hard, and get back to the NFL then I think with enough hard work he could have but I don't see him doing it. I especially don't see it after that short video.
Your comment on the margin of error being razor thin can't be stated enough. You could have even said it is half a razor thin.
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Exactly. Pretty much everyone on the team and staff knows he held back when he could have played.AppSt94 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2024 7:54 amIf you see it as a fan, imagine what his teammates see.Bigdaddyg1 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2024 7:14 amI think the only going if at 100% says it all. While you want skill guys to play at 100% for many reasons if a key guy sits and is at like 90% that’s tough to see as a fan. How many times have you heard a reference to a star saying that at (certain percentage lower than 100) he is still better than (fill in the blank). When Cam was on and completely focused he was amazing. The perception of many of us was that he appeared to sit out when he could contribute. Like I’ve said we don’t know the details but the perception we had said differently. How many dudes have we seen over the years who played hurt because we needed them and they simply wanted it?AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2024 2:58 pmFrom what I have heard Cam worked hard but had the track mentality. He would only go if he was 100% and so he held himself out a lot when others were going all out. He is a great athlete but he does not have the determination, toughness, or drive to succeed that it takes and he lacks in a few areas that are needed to even make it in the NFL. He could have developed those things but he never took the time to do so. He relied on his natural ability and that really is not enough to make it.Mjohn1988 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2024 10:06 amYou must either be an unbelievable exceptional athlete or have an unbelievable work ethic to make the NFL and for most it probably takes both of those things. It takes really, really, really wanting it and a lot of sacrifice. Not saying Cam isn’t a great athlete and not saying he doesn’t have the work ethic. But the margin of error is razor thin.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2024 9:51 am
I am not saying he should have made the team with how he is now but that if he had a different attitude he should have been able to do enough to make it. I agree he does not have the "it" factor. From the time he stepped on campus he appeared to be a special player but instead of going down as better than John Settle but he only showed flashes and never put it all together. I remember when he showed up that Satterfield said Cam is special and thought he had a NFL future. If he woke up today with the mindset he would change, work hard, and get back to the NFL then I think with enough hard work he could have but I don't see him doing it. I especially don't see it after that short video.
Your comment on the margin of error being razor thin can't be stated enough. You could have even said it is half a razor thin.
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I never thought I’d hear myself say this, but August cannot get here quickly enough.
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Ultimately what can and possibly hurt our program is that as we moved up in class we have pulled in some higher echelon players at some positions. An Alabama can maintain a stable of pro or close to pro players at the skill positions. If one of them decides to hold back for draft purposes it’s the next one up. If we have a pro caliber back or receiver who decides to pull the plug in order to “save himself” for the draft the drop off to the next man up might be steeper. Maybe we should just go back to finding that tweener guy who plays with a chip on his shoulder. Those 5’10”ish 200 lb backs who didn’t get the P5 looks did pretty good for us. Not to say he is/was one but the Prima Donna guys simply are not always made for App State.
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The last time we #BeatETSU, we followed it up with one of our best seasons ever. It was also the only game Cam played that season due to a knee injury he suffered after a 17 yard run. He worked his way back from injury to have an amazing 2020 season. Had he maintained that work ethic throughout his career and continued on that trajectory, he’d have been the best running back we’ve had. But he didn’t and isn’t even a top 5 App State RB.