Thank you Drink

[AppfaninCAALand]

I am reading about what a good coach he is. What exactly did he do? You think Satt, or Shawn, would not have won those P5s? Lets get real. I am very glad we won them but unc is not Penn State and S Carolina is not Georgia, Tenn, Clemson or Michigan. As far as I can see the only thing he really did was put just a little hitch in a great QB. Other than that he put it in neutral and let it coast down hill. If that is all we needed him to do we could have gotten someone much cheaper to sit and watch. As some one earlier said we didn't score like should have or could have. My personal opinion is that he put a governor on a race engine. I wish him no ill will I just don't see him as some great coach. Maybe if he stays somewhere more than 10 minutes he will become one.

He said in more than one post game presser some variation on he "was never afraid of losing the game." The guy coasted through the season.

[bigdaddyg]

Just read the the recently fired coach at Ole Miss has been named the offensive line coach at Georgia. Other than having some nice cash in his bank account that is pretty much how it goes when you take a head coaching job at one of the delusional SEC schools, lose games (gasp no way), get fired a year or two into the contract before you can even settle in. Go from the head man to offensive line coach at one of the big boy schools in the same conference.

[AppOrange]

I am thankful for the season that we've had and Drink was definitely a major part of that. We're not going to get any mileage out of bad-mouthing him at this point. I'd rather have an ally at an SEC school singing the praises of our program. It's better to have friends than enemies. These kinds of transitions are always awkward for the guy that's leaving...Satt even struggled with it last year.
I thank Drink for his time here and wish him nothing but the best at Mizzou...

This, all the way with this. So he said its not a stepping stone job, we all say stuff at emotional moments. Certainly we are all smart enough on here to understand there are only a handful of destination jobs for 99% of college coaches. 4 mil a year, yeah, you got to take that if you are in a profession where you have already decided, years ago, you have the highest of aspirations. He cant win a natty at App right now, technically he can from Mizzou on up.

Thank you drink for helping App to the best season we have ever had!

[hapapp]

I am reading about what a good coach he is. What exactly did he do? You think Satt, or Shawn, would not have won those P5s? Lets get real. I am very glad we won them but unc is not Penn State and S Carolina is not Georgia, Tenn, Clemson or Michigan. As far as I can see the only thing he really did was put just a little hitch in a great QB. Other than that he put it in neutral and let it coast down hill. If that is all we needed him to do we could have gotten someone much cheaper to sit and watch. As some one earlier said we didn't score like should have or could have. My personal opinion is that he put a governor on a race engine. I wish him no ill will I just don't see him as some great coach. Maybe if he stays somewhere more than 10 minutes he will become one.

Obviously, the jury is out on the long term success he has as a coach. But, if he had accomplished anything less than what Scott had done previously, he would have been marked a failure by many of us. So, its not like there was no pressure. I seriously doubt that he thought such an opportunity would come this quickly or so soon. I have no doubt that when he took this job he didn't foresee being here more than a couple of years. The opportunity just came before anyone expected it to. I can't fault him for taking the opportunity.

[WVAPPeer]

I posted this in another thread but it might be more relevant here ---

I know this is easy to say right now at this time, but here goes --- I always had a bad feel about this guy - I have never met him or seen him speak in person but I am an oldfart who has been with, around and in contact with coaches for a long, long, time and I just didn't buy his down-home act - sorry --- It was no use saying anything at the time and I am not saying it now as a "I told you so" because I didn't --- just giving my take on what I thought from the beginning --- I wish I had been wrong

[appstatealum]

I am thankful for the season that we've had and Drink was definitely a major part of that. We're not going to get any mileage out of bad-mouthing him at this point. I'd rather have an ally at an SEC school singing the praises of our program. It's better to have friends than enemies. These kinds of transitions are always awkward for the guy that's leaving...Satt even struggled with it last year.
I thank Drink for his time here and wish him nothing but the best at Mizzou...

This, all the way with this. So he said its not a stepping stone job, we all say stuff at emotional moments. Certainly we are all smart enough on here to understand there are only a handful of destination jobs for 99% of college coaches. 4 mil a year, yeah, you got to take that if you are in a profession where you have already decided, years ago, you have the highest of aspirations. He cant win a natty at App right now, technically he can from Mizzou on up.

Thank you drink for helping App to the best season we have ever had!

Just listen to him scripting the same exact speech at his Mizzou presser. He is a good playcaller who took a great team and didn’t screw it up. Since this isn’t the Lodge, I won’t expand on it, but he did nothing here for US or the PROGRAM. It was all about HIM. I get it, it’s the way CFB works, but let’s squash the “thanks Drink” stuff. If anything, you can thank him for the cash we got with his buyout. He indeed coached the games we won, but there is more than enough info to validate that he was not but a small part of our success this year.

[hapapp]

I am thankful for the season that we've had and Drink was definitely a major part of that. We're not going to get any mileage out of bad-mouthing him at this point. I'd rather have an ally at an SEC school singing the praises of our program. It's better to have friends than enemies. These kinds of transitions are always awkward for the guy that's leaving...Satt even struggled with it last year.
I thank Drink for his time here and wish him nothing but the best at Mizzou...

This, all the way with this. So he said its not a stepping stone job, we all say stuff at emotional moments. Certainly we are all smart enough on here to understand there are only a handful of destination jobs for 99% of college coaches. 4 mil a year, yeah, you got to take that if you are in a profession where you have already decided, years ago, you have the highest of aspirations. He cant win a natty at App right now, technically he can from Mizzou on up.

Thank you drink for helping App to the best season we have ever had!

Just listen to him scripting the same exact speech at his Mizzou presser. He is a good playcaller who took a great team and didn’t screw it up. Since this isn’t the Lodge, I won’t expand on it, but he did nothing here for US or the PROGRAM. It was all about HIM. I get it, it’s the way CFB works, but let’s squash the “thanks Drink” stuff. If anything, you can thank him for the cash we got with his buyout. He indeed coached the games we won, but there is more than enough info to validate that he was not but a small part of our success this year.

If you choose not to thank him, that's fine. I don't see the need to thank him but if others do, there is no need to squash it.

[Appsolutely]

I am reading about what a good coach he is. What exactly did he do? You think Satt, or Shawn, would not have won those P5s? Lets get real. I am very glad we won them but unc is not Penn State and S Carolina is not Georgia, Tenn, Clemson or Michigan. As far as I can see the only thing he really did was put just a little hitch in a great QB. Other than that he put it in neutral and let it coast down hill. If that is all we needed him to do we could have gotten someone much cheaper to sit and watch. As some one earlier said we didn't score like should have or could have. My personal opinion is that he put a governor on a race engine. I wish him no ill will I just don't see him as some great coach. Maybe if he stays somewhere more than 10 minutes he will become one.

He said in more than one post game presser some variation on he "was never afraid of losing the game." The guy coasted through the season.

Did anyone besides me find him to be insufferably arrogant and condescending during his pressers?
For example, if you watched his pressers, you saw him (1) refer to fans' concerns about our defense (after the Charlotte game) as "bullcrud" and (2) publicly call out a player for not practicing hard enough.
Now, I don't know whether his criticism of the aforementioned player was warranted or not. But I do know that that type of thing is a "family matter" which should have been handled internally, one-on-one with the player--not put out there publicly at a presser. And as far as #1 is concerned, anybody who witnessed the Charlotte game and came away with no concerns about our defense must have been either blind or delusional.
I, too, immensely enjoyed the two P-5 victories, but as has been pointed out, one of those teams was mediocre and the other was downright awful (still don't know how they beat Georgia).
He was very, very fortunate to have inherited a team with 18 of 22 starters coming back after a very successful year. The stars aligned for him.
I don't care whether he is successful at Missouri or not, but I never thought he was a good fit at App.
He better prepare himself for some severe ass-whuppings at Missouri, at least in the short-term.
As far as I'm concerned, he can take all his cute motivational aphorisms and his Diet Mt. Dew and shove 'em sideways.

[AppOrange]

I am thankful for the season that we've had and Drink was definitely a major part of that. We're not going to get any mileage out of bad-mouthing him at this point. I'd rather have an ally at an SEC school singing the praises of our program. It's better to have friends than enemies. These kinds of transitions are always awkward for the guy that's leaving...Satt even struggled with it last year.
I thank Drink for his time here and wish him nothing but the best at Mizzou...

This, all the way with this. So he said its not a stepping stone job, we all say stuff at emotional moments. Certainly we are all smart enough on here to understand there are only a handful of destination jobs for 99% of college coaches. 4 mil a year, yeah, you got to take that if you are in a profession where you have already decided, years ago, you have the highest of aspirations. He cant win a natty at App right now, technically he can from Mizzou on up.

Thank you drink for helping App to the best season we have ever had!

Just listen to him scripting the same exact speech at his Mizzou presser. He is a good playcaller who took a great team and didn’t screw it up. Since this isn’t the Lodge, I won’t expand on it, but he did nothing here for US or the PROGRAM. It was all about HIM. I get it, it’s the way CFB works, but let’s squash the “thanks Drink” stuff. If anything, you can thank him for the cash we got with his buyout. He indeed coached the games we won, but there is more than enough info to validate that he was not but a small part of our success this year.

I refuse to argue with you all, and this is it for me on this topic as I want to be forward thinking, but I respectively disagree with the above. I have coached and I can assure you, while I don't know the man's intentions, I do know he could have easily screwed this season up by not being at least a good coach. With our very lofty expectations, this first year coach assembled a mostly new staff and got us prepared and achieved a 12-1 magical season. I personally could see him eventually getting let go by Mizzou, that is a tough gig, but he was the head guy while here, he deserves more credit than some are giving him. Hell, he may have even had an off-putting personality to some on here, I for one prefer modesty over brash, but to not give the head guy credit for an amazing season is very unfair IMO. I do subscribe to the fact he took over a Ferrari, but those can crash just as easy as any car. The man got us to the finish line, I am appreciative. Looking forward to seeing who we get next.

[NavyApp]

I refuse to argue with you all, and this is it for me on this topic as I want to be forward thinking, but I respectively disagree with the above. I have coached and I can assure you, while I don't know the man's intentions, I do know he could have easily screwed this season up by not being at least a good coach. With our very lofty expectations, this first year coach assembled a mostly new staff and got us prepared and achieved a 12-1 magical season. I personally could see him eventually getting let go by Mizzou, that is a tough gig, but he was the head guy while here, he deserves more credit than some are giving him. Hell, he may have even had an off-putting personality to some on here, I for one prefer modesty over brash, but to not give the head guy credit for an amazing season is very unfair IMO. I do subscribe to the fact he took over a Ferrari, but those can crash just as easy as any car. The man got us to the finish line, I am appreciative. Looking forward to seeing who we get next.

Well put. 12-1 is 12-1. He deserves credit for that. He guided our program to an unprecedented record and raised our bar as far as our standard for excellence. Our name and brand is growing like a wild fire and he helped with that. But on to the next one, there is more of the mountain to climb!

[AppfaninCAALand]

I am reading about what a good coach he is. What exactly did he do? You think Satt, or Shawn, would not have won those P5s? Lets get real. I am very glad we won them but unc is not Penn State and S Carolina is not Georgia, Tenn, Clemson or Michigan. As far as I can see the only thing he really did was put just a little hitch in a great QB. Other than that he put it in neutral and let it coast down hill. If that is all we needed him to do we could have gotten someone much cheaper to sit and watch. As some one earlier said we didn't score like should have or could have. My personal opinion is that he put a governor on a race engine. I wish him no ill will I just don't see him as some great coach. Maybe if he stays somewhere more than 10 minutes he will become one.

He said in more than one post game presser some variation on he "was never afraid of losing the game." The guy coasted through the season.

Did anyone besides me find him to be insufferably arrogant and condescending during his pressers?
For example, if you watched his pressers, you saw him (1) refer to fans' concerns about our defense (after the Charlotte game) as "bullcrud" and (2) publicly call out a player for not practicing hard enough.
Now, I don't know whether his criticism of the aforementioned player was warranted or not. But I do know that that type of thing is a "family matter" which should have been handled internally, one-on-one with the player--not put out there publicly at a presser. And as far as #1 is concerned, anybody who witnessed the Charlotte game and came away with no concerns about our defense must have been either blind or delusional.
I, too, immensely enjoyed the two P-5 victories, but as has been pointed out, one of those teams was mediocre and the other was downright awful (still don't know how they beat Georgia).
He was very, very fortunate to have inherited a team with 18 of 22 starters coming back after a very successful year. The stars aligned for him.
I don't care whether he is successful at Missouri or not, but I never thought he was a good fit at App.
He better prepare himself for some severe ass-whuppings at Missouri, at least in the short-term.
As far as I'm concerned, he can take all his cute motivational aphorisms and his Diet Mt. Dew and shove 'em sideways.

I bit my tongue at the time but I almost threw up when I heard the condescending way he mocked the fans' defensive concerns both after the UNCC game and after the UNCCH game. After the Holes wins, it was more of the "haha, see there, you were wrong" tone and that was worse, IMO, than bullcrud after the 49ers win.

Our guys needed last minute luck to win games that had been well in hand late in the 3rd qtr. (UNC-blocked kick, USC-holding call, ULLLLLLLL-onside kick out of bounds). And that was on his play-calling, IMO.

The guy rode our team's coattails to millions. Thank you to Missouri for the buyout money and taking him before he had a chance to kill the culture here, I guess.

[teller]

May have already been posted but don't want to read all comments.

Drink's new compensation package: https://www.kansascity.com/sports/colle ... 34269.html

Absolutely blows App's package out of the water. I think App should adopt the buyout structure in his new deal. Taper the buyout from large to small the further into the contract the coach gets.

[AppStFan1]

I am reading about what a good coach he is. What exactly did he do? You think Satt, or Shawn, would not have won those P5s? Lets get real. I am very glad we won them but unc is not Penn State and S Carolina is not Georgia, Tenn, Clemson or Michigan. As far as I can see the only thing he really did was put just a little hitch in a great QB. Other than that he put it in neutral and let it coast down hill. If that is all we needed him to do we could have gotten someone much cheaper to sit and watch. As some one earlier said we didn't score like should have or could have. My personal opinion is that he put a governor on a race engine. I wish him no ill will I just don't see him as some great coach. Maybe if he stays somewhere more than 10 minutes he will become one.

Drink is still very early in his head coaching career so of course we don't know for sure yet. He is very scripted still but the two things I feel like I know for sure is that he does a good job of putting experience around him and knows offense very well.

I will say that one thing Satt did not have was the same depth, speed, and talent at QB that we had this year and even last year. As for Satt he would sometimes not manage the clock well. Drink seemed to be a little bit better but still conservative at times.

I hate to see the couple of App fans on Twitter acting salty and upset. I don't blame Drink at all. I know that he did not completely mesh with all of our players but he did a good job of leading the ship.

We have a lot of talent coming back so his loss will not hurt us for 2020. I just hope those still at App can finish this strong and keep most of our class together.

[AppinVA]

It’s a big misconception that Head football coach at a P5 like App State is a low-pressure gig. Drink and Co. found that out this year. Go three-and-out two times in a row, and you’ll be made aware quick, fast, and in a hurry. There was some noticeable groaning during the second half against Texas State. Afterward, he mashed the gas and we moved on. Another three-and-out would’ve resulted in a full-on Philadelphia cheer. And I would’ve had little problem with that.

[WASU 93]

I am thankful for the season that we've had and Drink was definitely a major part of that. We're not going to get any mileage out of bad-mouthing him at this point. I'd rather have an ally at an SEC school singing the praises of our program. It's better to have friends than enemies. These kinds of transitions are always awkward for the guy that's leaving...Satt even struggled with it last year.
I thank Drink for his time here and wish him nothing but the best at Mizzou...

This, all the way with this. So he said its not a stepping stone job, we all say stuff at emotional moments. Certainly we are all smart enough on here to understand there are only a handful of destination jobs for 99% of college coaches. 4 mil a year, yeah, you got to take that if you are in a profession where you have already decided, years ago, you have the highest of aspirations. He cant win a natty at App right now, technically he can from Mizzou on up.

Thank you drink for helping App to the best season we have ever had!

Just listen to him scripting the same exact speech at his Mizzou presser. He is a good playcaller who took a great team and didn’t screw it up. Since this isn’t the Lodge, I won’t expand on it, but he did nothing here for US or the PROGRAM. It was all about HIM. I get it, it’s the way CFB works, but let’s squash the “thanks Drink” stuff. If anything, you can thank him for the cash we got with his buyout. He indeed coached the games we won, but there is more than enough info to validate that he was not but a small part of our success this year.

I'm in the middle on this. On one hand, he delivered on a great season. While he wasn't the best "in game" coach, he did manage the games to victories. And, I don't know what positive impact he and the coaching staff had on the development of our players this year. Only the players know that. I won't even put him in the mode of great play caller this year, because the offense, while productive, never really flowed. It was jerky and there were too many games where we didn't get our playmakers involved because he was trying to run vertical passing plays that just didn't work. And, then there were the trick plays (our bowl staff last year successfully pulled off two) I think calling plays and managing the responsibilities of being a first-time head coach was overwhelming at times. (and I think he'll struggle in the SEC, if he tries to fill both roles) But, he did lead the team to the victories and the team did constantly respond to adversity, be it the opening KO return at UNC or the loss to GaSo or the terrible start at GaSt, or the loss of Sutton.

On the flip side, he never was an App guy. The press conferences were about him, the radio interviews were about him. After the conference championship, he told Evans that he (Drink) should get one of the MVP belts, not "the whole offense deserves it." Also, during his on field post-game interview, he was asked what made App special. His reply was that "they" had great fan, program, etc. Not, "we". I was pretty sure he was gone at that point.

The sooner the better, if it wasn't going to be long term. Also, remember he paid us for coaching for a year. $1.6M buyout - $900K in salary in incentives. That's about $50K a win!

[appstatealum]

I am thankful for the season that we've had and Drink was definitely a major part of that. We're not going to get any mileage out of bad-mouthing him at this point. I'd rather have an ally at an SEC school singing the praises of our program. It's better to have friends than enemies. These kinds of transitions are always awkward for the guy that's leaving...Satt even struggled with it last year.
I thank Drink for his time here and wish him nothing but the best at Mizzou...

This, all the way with this. So he said its not a stepping stone job, we all say stuff at emotional moments. Certainly we are all smart enough on here to understand there are only a handful of destination jobs for 99% of college coaches. 4 mil a year, yeah, you got to take that if you are in a profession where you have already decided, years ago, you have the highest of aspirations. He cant win a natty at App right now, technically he can from Mizzou on up.

Thank you drink for helping App to the best season we have ever had!

Just listen to him scripting the same exact speech at his Mizzou presser. He is a good playcaller who took a great team and didn’t screw it up. Since this isn’t the Lodge, I won’t expand on it, but he did nothing here for US or the PROGRAM. It was all about HIM. I get it, it’s the way CFB works, but let’s squash the “thanks Drink” stuff. If anything, you can thank him for the cash we got with his buyout. He indeed coached the games we won, but there is more than enough info to validate that he was not but a small part of our success this year.

I refuse to argue with you all, and this is it for me on this topic as I want to be forward thinking, but I respectively disagree with the above. I have coached and I can assure you, while I don't know the man's intentions, I do know he could have easily screwed this season up by not being at least a good coach. With our very lofty expectations, this first year coach assembled a mostly new staff and got us prepared and achieved a 12-1 magical season. I personally could see him eventually getting let go by Mizzou, that is a tough gig, but he was the head guy while here, he deserves more credit than some are giving him. Hell, he may have even had an off-putting personality to some on here, I for one prefer modesty over brash, but to not give the head guy credit for an amazing season is very unfair IMO. I do subscribe to the fact he took over a Ferrari, but those can crash just as easy as any car. The man got us to the finish line, I am appreciative. Looking forward to seeing who we get next.

I’m being a little emotional having just watched his Mizzou presser, but there was a lot of BS that went on behind the curtain and I was actually a staunch defender of him thinking that it was “a part of a young man learning to be a HC”. But as I have seen the things of the last few days develop and reflect back on these details that I know, a lot of things became very clear. The truth is probably between yours and my opinion/take, but we should be careful “Thanking” him when there are players and staff still here that were closer to the situation that feel quite differently.

I apologize for Poopooing what you said, that wasn’t my intention and I probably came off a little more harsh than intended.

[S.Lewis15]

He really slipped up big time at the introduction press conference at Missouri this afternoon, stating that their #1 goal was to win the Sun Belt. A carbon copy of his intro press conference at App.

[goapps]

Thank you Drink? That's 2/3 correct!

[yosef13]

I am reading about what a good coach he is. What exactly did he do? You think Satt, or Shawn, would not have won those P5s? Lets get real. I am very glad we won them but unc is not Penn State and S Carolina is not Georgia, Tenn, Clemson or Michigan. As far as I can see the only thing he really did was put just a little hitch in a great QB. Other than that he put it in neutral and let it coast down hill. If that is all we needed him to do we could have gotten someone much cheaper to sit and watch. As some one earlier said we didn't score like should have or could have. My personal opinion is that he put a governor on a race engine. I wish him no ill will I just don't see him as some great coach. Maybe if he stays somewhere more than 10 minutes he will become one.

He said in more than one post game presser some variation on he "was never afraid of losing the game." The guy coasted through the season.

Did anyone besides me find him to be insufferably arrogant and condescending during his pressers?
For example, if you watched his pressers, you saw him (1) refer to fans' concerns about our defense (after the Charlotte game) as "bullcrud" and (2) publicly call out a player for not practicing hard enough.
Now, I don't know whether his criticism of the aforementioned player was warranted or not. But I do know that that type of thing is a "family matter" which should have been handled internally, one-on-one with the player--not put out there publicly at a presser. And as far as #1 is concerned, anybody who witnessed the Charlotte game and came away with no concerns about our defense must have been either blind or delusional.
I, too, immensely enjoyed the two P-5 victories, but as has been pointed out, one of those teams was mediocre and the other was downright awful (still don't know how they beat Georgia).
He was very, very fortunate to have inherited a team with 18 of 22 starters coming back after a very successful year. The stars aligned for him.
I don't care whether he is successful at Missouri or not, but I never thought he was a good fit at App.
He better prepare himself for some severe ass-whuppings at Missouri, at least in the short-term.
As far as I'm concerned, he can take all his cute motivational aphorisms and his Diet Mt. Dew and shove 'em sideways.

Yes. His non verbal to the press was the worst. I noticed it from day one and just rolled with it since we were winning. My gut told me he was not a likable guy, unless we were 12-1.

[ggasu]

Big paid Napoleon complex guys are always Arrogant ....(not to mention that he looked just like Napoleon Dynamite)

He was carbon copying Saben and tried to throw in the “good ole Christian” boy of Dabo

Problem is every time I heard him talk about religion , I reverted to the scene in “Walking The Line” where Sam Phillips tells Johnny Cash about being a Christian that he doesn’t believe him.