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Unread post by Rekdiver » Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:18 am

AppSt94 wrote:
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While I do think we need a change in our kicking game, I would never boo the kid. Booing is probably making the whole thing worse! There were some even booing during his intro for starting lineups. That's pathetic.

Now, I did boo yesterday, but it was for the officials.
Well I don't see how you don't boo the refs. Those guys collectively couldn't figure out that they needed to replay third down?
How can you boo officials who miscalled. 3rd down after a penalty let us kick and then reversed the call? You gotta respect that level of incompetence!!!

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Unread post by fjblair » Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:43 am

WVAPPeer wrote:
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At this point, I give him a week breather. Let him kickoff and see where his head is afterwards. Similar to how Satt handled Matics in 2014. Mentally it's not fair to Rubino at this point.
I think that is exactly what Coach Satterfield did when he inserted Staton for the final XP - in reality the game was over at that point and why put Rubino back out there for a kick that would most likely mean nothing? - I think that was a great move by Coach to give Rubino a break and give the other kid some time - Again, my opinion only, Rubino would be my kicker going into this next game - if he struggles, then give him a break but a good coach doesn't bench a starter for one bad game ---
One bad game?

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Unread post by WVAPPeer » Sun Oct 22, 2017 11:42 am

Yes - one bad game ---
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Unread post by Goapps15 » Sun Oct 22, 2017 11:45 am

WVAPPeer wrote:
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At this point, I give him a week breather. Let him kickoff and see where his head is afterwards. Similar to how Satt handled Matics in 2014. Mentally it's not fair to Rubino at this point.
I think that is exactly what Coach Satterfield did when he inserted Staton for the final XP - in reality the game was over at that point and why put Rubino back out there for a kick that would most likely mean nothing? - I think that was a great move by Coach to give Rubino a break and give the other kid some time - Again, my opinion only, Rubino would be my kicker going into this next game - if he struggles, then give him a break but a good coach doesn't bench a starter for one bad game ---
I would agree but it's not just been one bad game.

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Unread post by WVAPPeer » Sun Oct 22, 2017 11:49 am

Then list the other Bad games for me ---
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Unread post by App91 » Sun Oct 22, 2017 12:06 pm

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Then list the other Bad games for me ---
9-15 for the year = 60%. none of those IIRC were too long to be considered questionable. Wake=2 missed FG including game winner and 1 missed PAT. Also noticed the last couple of KO's were short of goal line as well.
We know what his performance is, its time to give someone else a chance. It can only get a little bit worse.
I can be that is a RB or WR had a commensurate amount of fumbles then they would not get more chances.

Its tough but Kicking is simply a pass/fail business

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Unread post by WVAPPeer » Sun Oct 22, 2017 12:08 pm

so you blame the kicker for blocked kicks???
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Unread post by App91 » Sun Oct 22, 2017 12:17 pm

Some, yes. On a PAT, Height is extremely important as the accuracy part has a much higher margin of error, those reverse as the try gets longer. A blocked 45 yarder is much easier to understand than a 20 yarder. Hitting the line in the back is never good. With height, a PAT should really only be blocked on the edge, but someone in the middle can come through, should never be able to jump straight up and block it, unless youre Manute Bohl!

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Unread post by Saint3333 » Sun Oct 22, 2017 12:20 pm

Speak to any former kicker about the performance this year and you'll get quite a long list of technical issues. This is Matics all over again, hope it ends similarly.

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Unread post by hapapp » Sun Oct 22, 2017 12:52 pm

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Boo the coaches for leaving a kicker in who needs to sit...maybe. Boo a college kid kicker...never.
Problem how to distinguish the boos? A boo is something reserved for dastardly behavior not unintentional errors.

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Unread post by WVAPPeer » Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:23 pm

The Falcons kicker has had a short FG blocked from up the middle and just clanked a 33 yarder off the upright --- It happens to the best of kickers ---
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Unread post by App91 » Sun Oct 22, 2017 11:26 pm

WVAPPeer wrote:
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The Falcons kicker has had a short FG blocked from up the middle and just clanked a 33 yarder off the upright --- It happens to the best of kickers ---
Yeah but see how many times he does that before he is back to bagging groceries. My guess is one more time and he's out. Kickers have a short leash and they know it. See Mike Vanderjadt (sp?)

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Unread post by Rick83 » Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:17 am

The overall kicking issue isn't just Rubino, it's the entire unit. Hopefully, Satt will focus on it and fix the problems.

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Unread post by Yosef84 » Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:41 am

It is frustrating to watch Rubino struggle, but he is not kicking in a vacuum. It's already been stated multiple times that kicking has a HUGE mental component. The classless idiots who boo our own kicker as he attempts to score for App are undermining the coaches process. I absolutely agree that there is no place in college football for this kind of thing. Do people not understand that they are effectively helping to ice our own kicker?

I don't care if you boo a call. I don't care about some of the other ridiculous things that we argue about on here. This one absolutely bothers me. I cannot understand why a person would undermine our own player. You can rationalize and justify until you are blue in the face, but you're wrong. It should never happen!

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Unread post by The Rock » Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:48 am

My concern with Rubino is his overall attitude. I was volunteering at a local project in the spring of 2016, where many other football players were volunteering. At the time they were in the middle of the battle for the belt. As we were asking some players about the upcoming season and how the competition of battle for the belts were going, all other players were excited and competitive about it. Who was winning, how far their group was behind and that they were going to win. Overall they all seemed to be buying in to that challenge and the S&C program. Rubino was there and didn’t really participate in the conversation and when he was asked about the battle, he just shrugged and said it was kinda dumb. There was no competitive spirit about him and he really came off as aloof and not buying into the program at all.
Of all the players that were out there, he was the only one that I didn’t really feel like was fully committed to the program.
But I don’t know him personally, and that was a small snap shot in time. It may be in no way indicative of him or his commitment to App,but it does give me pause when I see some of his results on the field if he is truly giving his all.

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Re: Chat

Unread post by AppSt94 » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:08 am

Kickers, like closers in baseball, are a different breed of people.

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