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Re: So Miss discussion
This rings true at the CFB QB play as well. There just isn’t any emotional and mental development anymore. NIL and portal killed that. (and coaches moving around every year)
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What risk are we talking about here? Expansion financed w debt?AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 14, 2025 8:58 amI won't argue with you on the finances issue because I know Gillin is taking a huge risk but you can't go silent like you have and then pounce on the first loss. People still wanted to give Clark time in year 5 and this is just the 3rd game in year 1 for Loggains. It took Drink a few years to get Missouri going in this era so I think we need to give Loggains at least 3 years before we start calling for jobs of people.DenverOfTheEast wrote: ↑Sun Sep 14, 2025 7:38 amSo Miss Charles Huff is a really nice good coach! Marshall did the right thing and fire that AD for letting him leave for another school in the SBC. He has flipped the culture down in Hattiesburg.
The Charlotte win was Fool's Gold, they are terrible, and Appy fans and players it seems got full of themselves. Lindenwood staggered the Moutaineers and So Miss may have just knocked them out for 2025.
Coastal is a sure win, but the rest are 50/50 or no chance at winning at all. 5 wins max is my prediction for 2025. Billy Napier maybe available soon! Taylor Lamb needs to be the next coach once CDL leaves for the NFL or SEC or HS.
Gillin needs to be shown the door along with Reeder and a few others - these are like the end of the Cobb days. It needs a major remodel. One former HC in the department recently told me, 'App has a math problem in terms of finances'.
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Yes and doing it with the expectation that we get an invite to a bigger conference without having a wink and nod agreement in place with a conference when he did it. It could all work out and Gillin look like a genius but he is taking a gamble and there is a chance it does not work out. I have my fingers crossed that it all goes our way in the long run.yosef69 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 14, 2025 9:22 amWhat risk are we talking about here? Expansion financed w debt?AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 14, 2025 8:58 amI won't argue with you on the finances issue because I know Gillin is taking a huge risk but you can't go silent like you have and then pounce on the first loss. People still wanted to give Clark time in year 5 and this is just the 3rd game in year 1 for Loggains. It took Drink a few years to get Missouri going in this era so I think we need to give Loggains at least 3 years before we start calling for jobs of people.DenverOfTheEast wrote: ↑Sun Sep 14, 2025 7:38 amSo Miss Charles Huff is a really nice good coach! Marshall did the right thing and fire that AD for letting him leave for another school in the SBC. He has flipped the culture down in Hattiesburg.
The Charlotte win was Fool's Gold, they are terrible, and Appy fans and players it seems got full of themselves. Lindenwood staggered the Moutaineers and So Miss may have just knocked them out for 2025.
Coastal is a sure win, but the rest are 50/50 or no chance at winning at all. 5 wins max is my prediction for 2025. Billy Napier maybe available soon! Taylor Lamb needs to be the next coach once CDL leaves for the NFL or SEC or HS.
Gillin needs to be shown the door along with Reeder and a few others - these are like the end of the Cobb days. It needs a major remodel. One former HC in the department recently told me, 'App has a math problem in terms of finances'.
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Heard that the other day and he is right. It is very hard to get the most out of someone when you only have a few months with them. Development takes time and sadly we have too many boosters who have too much money with no patience and and knowledge of what is really best for long term development of players.
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You don't know anything about App State culture other than what you glean from trolling.DenverOfTheEast wrote: ↑Sun Sep 14, 2025 8:25 amApp State Football peaked out on College Game Day Saturday in 2022. Nothing left to obtain.
A lot of good loyal older fans, younger generation is spoiled, but the spirit of App State has been lost or broken, be a long time before it returns. It's become too corporate and has lost its roots.
Trace the history of the program and watch the future unfold the next 5 seasons. -- come back to this post.
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This is not a rant, an attempt to shame anyone or call anyone out so please I hope no one takes this personal. I realize that people have their own lives and stuff going on and disposable discretionary income is different for everyone.
The App ticket office sold 40 tickets for this game through the school. The majority of the folks there were parents and player family, so 40 fans. That’s disappointing for such a passionate fanbase. I realize that it’s not a close trip but it’s a place we rarely visit. The kids deserve better.
The App ticket office sold 40 tickets for this game through the school. The majority of the folks there were parents and player family, so 40 fans. That’s disappointing for such a passionate fanbase. I realize that it’s not a close trip but it’s a place we rarely visit. The kids deserve better.
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I get your point, and they do, but it’s hard to justify, getting, say, 500 people to travel over 500 miles when the host team can’t get more than 5,000 people to travel 5 miles. They could’ve played this game in the baseball stadium.AppSt94 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 14, 2025 10:16 amThis is not a rant, an attempt to shame anyone or call anyone out so please I hope no one takes this personal. I realize that people have their own lives and stuff going on and disposable discretionary income is different for everyone.
The App ticket office sold 40 tickets for this game through the school. The majority of the folks there were parents and player family, so 40 fans. That’s disappointing for such a passionate fanbase. I realize that it’s not a close trip but it’s a place we rarely visit. The kids deserve better.
Meanwhile, we get around 34,000, with a conservative estimate of around half, who drive over two hours for our games.
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I dont think a lot of fans are going to non driveable games. If I had to make a choice for a mini vacation game for this year it would definitely be Boise State over Southern MIss.AppSt94 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 14, 2025 10:16 amThis is not a rant, an attempt to shame anyone or call anyone out so please I hope no one takes this personal. I realize that people have their own lives and stuff going on and disposable discretionary income is different for everyone.
The App ticket office sold 40 tickets for this game through the school. The majority of the folks there were parents and player family, so 40 fans. That’s disappointing for such a passionate fanbase. I realize that it’s not a close trip but it’s a place we rarely visit. The kids deserve better.
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The people who are spoiled when it comes to Appalachian Football are not the players, not the doners, not the administration, and not the athletic department. The people who are spoiled are the ones that post on this board and talk about how spoiled everyone is.
Just like the people that complain about brown nosers.
They are not mad because someone is brown nosing they are mad because they are better at it then they are.
Just like the people that complain about brown nosers.
They are not mad because someone is brown nosing they are mad because they are better at it then they are.
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We went from it's the coaches fault.....it's the players fault.....it's Gillin's fault for how he runs the athletics department....it's the donors fault because we don't have enough money to buy players....and now it's the fans fault for not going to games..... Everyone is searching for some reason/excuse. It's the portal era with new players and a new head coach. Coach Dlo either figures out how to be a head coach or he doesn't. I see no reason he can't figure it out. It's obviously going to take more than a few games. This season will be one of ups and downs. I coached a soccer game yesterday where my high school team should have soundly whipped the other team. We ended up winning 5-2 but it should have been 10-0. I had my two best players out and my other good player gets hurt during the game. I had new players playing in spots they weren't used to. I also had to deal with the fact that all of them showed up to the game in a mood. Sometimes you end up winning and sometimes you end up taking a spanking. It's all in how you respond. The issue we have is that Boise St is next. Luckily we have a bye week to work on things.