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[bcoach]

Theres no way they will fire clark for 1 bad season even if we finish 5-7. Next year he would be on the hot seat. One silver lining is we dont have to worry about losing coaches this year. Our coaches will self evaluate and come back ready during off season. Also we will have our full offense witha mobile qb next year and hopefully improve our secondary

This isn’t about ONE bad year. It’s about a deteriorating program before our eyes. 3 straight years of it. If I’m pulling the levers of whether he stays or goes, the majority of it depends on the last games. Get these freshmen in. They won’t lose a redshirt for 3 games. These seniors are DONE, and thanks. They might, maybe, just might win one more. But that’s no guarantee.

Time to get a jump on development of these kids for the future and at the same time guard against the portal. Let’s see what we have in Burger and get him some invaluable live game experience. Get some of these young, highly touted offensive linemen in the game. Lord knows it can’t get worse. This line is the worst in the Sun Belt. Let that sink in.

I’d rather be losing knowing we’re developing than watching a bunch of seniors walk through the motions while taking down the program.

So if we bench the starters and put in the freshmen what does that do for team moral and recruiting? What does it tell the remaining starters? " Thanks for your work guys but the season is over and we are just going to have practice games for the last two". As much as I would like to build for next year I think it would be a very bad move.
I also think your comment on the seniors is way out of line.

[/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09]

Who makes the decision to fire a position or assistant coach? Is it suggested by the head coach, and the A.D. does the formal termination, or is it just in the hands of the A.D.?

I ask because at this point I think SC has to realize some of what he has around him isn't working. Not saying he should use the position and assistant coaches as a scapegoat, because he's made some questionable decisions himself, but it would be the first step in showing they're interested in turning things around.

[appstate24]

My decision to give or not give to the program is and will not be dependent on coaching hires and fires. I am an App. St. alumni. This is my school. As stated on another thread, as long as I am financially able, I will continue to renew my NEZ seats.

This x1000.

I’ll keep giving and my family will continue to be in our seats.

I do have questions…a lot. I do agree with the previous poster, the Oline has been a major disappointment. I had many questions when we made the hire preseason. Southern’s Oline was trash last year, at his previous stop.


GO APPS!!
GO APPS!!

[mike87]

Someone name a team that has succeeded with high turnover in its coaching ranks. I’ll wait. But that’s exactly what you keyboard coaches are advocating. Again.

[WASU 93]

Theres no way they will fire clark for 1 bad season even if we finish 5-7. Next year he would be on the hot seat. One silver lining is we dont have to worry about losing coaches this year. Our coaches will self evaluate and come back ready during off season. Also we will have our full offense witha mobile qb next year and hopefully improve our secondary

This isn’t about ONE bad year. It’s about a deteriorating program before our eyes. 3 straight years of it. If I’m pulling the levers of whether he stays or goes, the majority of it depends on the last games. Get these freshmen in. They won’t lose a redshirt for 3 games. These seniors are DONE, and thanks. They might, maybe, just might win one more. But that’s no guarantee.

Time to get a jump on development of these kids for the future and at the same time guard against the portal. Let’s see what we have in Burger and get him some invaluable live game experience. Get some of these young, highly touted offensive linemen in the game. Lord knows it can’t get worse. This line is the worst in the Sun Belt. Let that sink in.

I’d rather be losing knowing we’re developing than watching a bunch of seniors walk through the motions while taking down the program.

You should apply to be our lead recruiter. "We'll get you on the field early, but no matter how much blood, sweat and tears you give to our program, you'll be on the bench as soon as we are done with you. You do understand, it's for the good of the program. Y'all had a great career here, but since you went through a rough stretch, we're dumping you and going to bring in the replacements. And, by the way, you are also responsible for the demise of our program."

The difference between Leadership and Management is that Leadership thinks in term of the overall program and has long term vision. Managers simple react and make changes to try to manage the process and do damage control. Hopefully we have Leadership in our program.

[bigdaddyg]

Thank god about a half dozen of the posters on this board don't actually make decisions for our program. We would not have a single coach last past 2 years. We would fire coordinators during the season with zero viable replacements. We would bench any starter who has a bad play or game. We would completely change play calling during games from the playbook which has 350 different variations which have been added with no problem. We would also replace starters each season with no drop off because of the level of talent that never dips.

[ASUTodd]

I'd tell the players.... Two games left. 7-5..... 7-5 gets us a bowl game. Now get you're butts out of the dirt and show me your war face. I'd make it a point to the seniors that it's now or never......

[311neers]

Someone name a team that has succeeded with high turnover in its coaching ranks. I’ll wait. But that’s exactly what you keyboard coaches are advocating. Again.

Georgia and Bama. but they are outliers. I thought we were them of the G5 but i guess not.

[Stonewall]

Huff gives a good post-game press conference.Worth a watch.

[311neers]

For the CB7 haters…y’all don’t know how good we have it til it’s gone. Just like satt and drink as offensive minded coaches- we miss their brains dearly. Y’all expect burger to come in here and lead us as a freshman better than cb7 did? Luckily the schedule is “softer” next year but I have a hard time believing we won’t miss chase. That dude “Gave his all for Appalachian”. Might be a tough rebuilding year next year, usually we just reload but now we are in rebuild. Go apps! Love me some CB7.

[appgrad95&97]

For the CB7 haters…y’all don’t know how good we have it til it’s gone. Just like satt and drink as offensive minded coaches- we miss their brains dearly. Y’all expect burger to come in here and lead us as a freshman better than cb7 did? Luckily the schedule is “softer” next year but I have a hard time believing we won’t miss chase. That dude “Gave his all for Appalachian”. Might be a tough rebuilding year next year, usually we just reload but now we are in rebuild. Go apps! Love me some CB7.

I could not agree more with you about Chase. I don't understand any of the criticisms of him this season. And I fully expect a drop off next year at QB. But you think next season's schedule is softer? @ UNC and Wyoming and home against an improving ECU. 2-2 in the non conference would be great. I assume we'll be @ Troy and then definitely ODU and JMU. Next year terrifies me.

[311neers]

For the CB7 haters…y’all don’t know how good we have it til it’s gone. Just like satt and drink as offensive minded coaches- we miss their brains dearly. Y’all expect burger to come in here and lead us as a freshman better than cb7 did? Luckily the schedule is “softer” next year but I have a hard time believing we won’t miss chase. That dude “Gave his all for Appalachian”. Might be a tough rebuilding year next year, usually we just reload but now we are in rebuild. Go apps! Love me some CB7.

I could not agree more with you about Chase. I don't understand any of the criticisms of him this season. And I fully expect a drop off next year at QB. But you think next season's schedule is softer? @ UNC and Wyoming and home against an improving ECU. 2-2 in the non conference would be great. I assume we'll be @ Troy and then definitely ODU and JMU. Next year terrifies me.

Haha that’s why i put it in quotes as it’s kind of a toss up. Seeing A&M and Unc on paper seems a lot harder than away at wyoming and away at unc w ECU at home. But yes, Chase has been in those moments for 5 years, burger ain’t sniffed a meaningful college down yet.

[311neers]

Said this plenty of times this year, but now seems like a given with how the season has gone….Kanye roberts better start the next 2 games and he better be told he is RB1 next year. If clark effs up the RB rotation and loses roberts it’ll be a sad day on the mountain. We cannot afford to lose him.

[ASUTodd]

Chase played in big games with Clemson and had to play some tough games while at Duke. He was tried and tested. While Burger may be more mobile he is not a grizzled veteran. We will see a lot more int's this next year. Unless Burger becomes some prodigy his decision making will not be that of Brice.

[CharlotteApp05]

IMO nobody is hating on Chase. He has legit talent and everyone appreciates what he has given to App.

At least my take is: Given The circumstances of our O line, a mobile QB may be better suited to take off and make something out of nothing when the blitz gets through. Again - not taking anything away from Chase, but having the scramble ability may make opposing teams less likely to bring pressure which allows more things to open up without relying on the line to block as long.

[BambooRdApp]

Maybe not on here...but other social media... hating on Chase often... which is sad considering what he has done for program.

[AtlAppMan]

My decision to give or not give to the program is and will not be dependent on coaching hires and fires. I am an App. St. alumni. This is my school. As stated on another thread, as long as I am financially able, I will continue to renew my NEZ seats.

This x1000.

I’ll keep giving and my family will continue to be in our seats.

I do have questions…a lot. I do agree with the previous poster, the Oline has been a major disappointment. I had many questions when we made the hire preseason. Southern’s Oline was trash last year, at his previous stop.


GO APPS!!
GO APPS!!

I totally agree that whatever you give or how you support the program don’t stop because of short term issues. You are supporting a program and it will have some ups and downs over time. Kinda like investing in the overall stock market, you are in for the long game.

That being said it is clear we are seeing a multi year downward trend that the root causes appear to be multifaceted and the fix is not a single magic bullet. As a good leader you don’t make good decisions based on knee jerk reaction nor can you stay too long at the ball.

Prior to this season I hoped we were just regrouping under a slow start with SC and getting ready to take off. Now almost thru the third year we are getting worse by the game and it is clear the team is struggling mightily with no answers. I want SC to be successful but he has to right the ship. He needs to work SMART not just work hard even when the world is crashing around you. I am pulling for him but there is likely a finite runway (not two games) for results to show we are back on the right path.

God speed SC

[Stonewall]

"You are what your record says you are "

[MrCraig]

Theres no way they will fire clark for 1 bad season even if we finish 5-7. Next year he would be on the hot seat. One silver lining is we dont have to worry about losing coaches this year. Our coaches will self evaluate and come back ready during off season. Also we will have our full offense witha mobile qb next year and hopefully improve our secondary

This isn’t about ONE bad year. It’s about a deteriorating program before our eyes. 3 straight years of it. If I’m pulling the levers of whether he stays or goes, the majority of it depends on the last games. Get these freshmen in. They won’t lose a redshirt for 3 games. These seniors are DONE, and thanks. They might, maybe, just might win one more. But that’s no guarantee.

Time to get a jump on development of these kids for the future and at the same time guard against the portal. Let’s see what we have in Burger and get him some invaluable live game experience. Get some of these young, highly touted offensive linemen in the game. Lord knows it can’t get worse. This line is the worst in the Sun Belt. Let that sink in.

I’d rather be losing knowing we’re developing than watching a bunch of seniors walk through the motions while taking down the program.

You should apply to be our lead recruiter. "We'll get you on the field early, but no matter how much blood, sweat and tears you give to our program, you'll be on the bench as soon as we are done with you. You do understand, it's for the good of the program. Y'all had a great career here, but since you went through a rough stretch, we're dumping you and going to bring in the replacements. And, by the way, you are also responsible for the demise of our program."

The difference between Leadership and Management is that Leadership thinks in term of the overall program and has long term vision. Managers simple react and make changes to try to manage the process and do damage control. Hopefully we have Leadership in our program.

Satterfield benched a bunch of FCS recruits who were seniors and juniors and started the guys he recruited, and it completely turned a bad season around. Just because someone has been around and “given their all” doesn’t mean they have to play. If a freshman or sophomore is better, they should be playing. You play to win the game.

[WataugaMan]

I'd tell the players.... Two games left. 7-5..... 7-5 gets us a bowl game. Now get you're butts out of the dirt and show me your war face. I'd make it a point to the seniors that it's now or never......