First Half

AppState89 · Unread post by **AppState89** » Sun Oct 05, 2014 6:41 am

ASPENSOX wrote:Honestly, I am not so sure App wins another game this year. We will be in a dogfight next week with Liberty. Let that sink in for a moment....

I bet we don't win another game this year. After seeing how Ga. State and Idaho played yesterday....it's not going to be good....they got beat, but both almost beat a lot better teams...

WataugaMan · Unread post by **WataugaMan** » Sun Oct 05, 2014 7:18 am

AppState89 wrote:
ASPENSOX wrote:Honestly, I am not so sure App wins another game this year. We will be in a dogfight next week with Liberty. Let that sink in for a moment....
I bet we don't win another game this year. After seeing how Ga. State and Idaho played yesterday....it's not going to be good....they got beat, but both almost beat a lot better teams...

As hard as it is to state, I'll have to agree. Looking at next week's game one would think App should win, however, Liberty has a point to make and beating us would make their season. If we come out flat and unprepared again they will beat us and that's what I'm afraid of. In addition, if the current trend continues, you are correct we will not win another game this season. I hate stating the obvious, however, it is what it is. We are a very unmotivated team.

AppinATL · Unread post by **AppinATL** » Sun Oct 05, 2014 8:18 am

WataugaMan wrote:
AppState89 wrote:
ASPENSOX wrote:Honestly, I am not so sure App wins another game this year. We will be in a dogfight next week with Liberty. Let that sink in for a moment....
I bet we don't win another game this year. After seeing how Ga. State and Idaho played yesterday....it's not going to be good....they got beat, but both almost beat a lot better teams...
As hard as it is to state, I'll have to agree. Looking at next week's game one would think App should win, however, Liberty has a point to make and beating us would make their season. If we come out flat and unprepared again they will beat us and that's what I'm afraid of. In addition, if the current trend continues, you are correct we will not win another game this season. I hate stating the obvious, however, it is what it is. We are a very unmotivated team.

I wish I could argue, I got nothin'. Last night was just plain painful to watch. I'm a big fan of Satt and his staff and I will be at every game this year, God-willing, but this team is not in the least bit fun to watch. Even with our "build for the future" philosophy which I think is valid, we should look better than this. I was prepared for us to lose during this transition but I never expected to look this bad doing it.

WataugaMan · Unread post by **WataugaMan** » Sun Oct 05, 2014 8:24 am

God bless you my friend, I feel your pain!

MtnDevil95 · Unread post by **MtnDevil95** » Sun Oct 05, 2014 8:37 am

I grew up with parents who are lifetime members of the Iron Dukes, and have season tickets to Duke football since I was a kid in the 70's. I've seen first hand what it can mean to build a program from scratch and suffer decades of 1, 2 and even no win seasons. There is no way to delicately put it, it flat out sucks. I do not believe App is in for the same Sahara that Duke football endured, I believe this program can get to 6 or 7 wins in Taylor Lamb's career, but it may be his senior season. We have to be fans for the long haul, not just the next game or rest of this season.

All that being said, no one even very loosely associated with the program should use any excuse for not demanding the very best out of everyone, players, coaches, administrators, fans, everyone. Watching the last 3 games, and remembering back to the first games of last season, I am very concerned about the lack of urgency and snail like starts this Satterfield lead team seems to suffer. The individual games show an offense that is very slow to start and find a rhythm. This is the second season that the team as a whole has been very slow, and to this point this season, still has not gotten started, really. That's not acceptable.

I'm not saying Satt needs to go, but I am saying that I would like to see a sense of urgency in the players and staff. Spotting other teams 14-20 points a game will not put many W in the scorecard.

"Today I give my ALL for Appalachian State." That starts before the opening kick, not sometime in the 2nd or 3rd quarter.

boonetown1 · Unread post by **boonetown1** » Sun Oct 05, 2014 8:44 am

I just don't really get the play calling, we have the athletes. I think a lot of Scott's downfalls were covered up by such great playmakers in the victory years. I get the build for the future, but after this year we will have lost the winning tradition and it will be very hard to continue to re-group.

And I hate to say it but I think we may loose a player or two this offseason ( ie shaedon meadors, etc.). I hope not, just have a hunch. I stayed until mid-4th last night but it was just hard to watch and came away feeling this is not worth the time or money. I will still support our team, but man this is getting out of control. I hope my job would put me up for review/take action for putting forth a seriously sub-par product.......

YesAppCan · Unread post by **YesAppCan** » Sun Oct 05, 2014 8:57 am

As it turns out... Size really does matter.

We looked like a pee-wee team lined up against them-- across the board. OL let Taylor (and Kam) get absolutely smashed a couple times. I really think this gets worse as season goes on as I don't really believe we will physically hold up against these much bigger teams... I stayed til the bitter end but it was hard to watch. Unfortunately, there are no quick fixes--- wish there were. I'll see y'all next week.

luvyosef · Unread post by **luvyosef** » Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:07 am

It all boils down to four things:

RECRUIT, RECRUIT, RECRUIT
get bigger
get faster
get stronger

Apptiger · Unread post by **Apptiger** » Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:40 am

We are failing at every aspect of the game.
I am not seeing a lot of progress either as we seem to be getting worse week over week.

Yes we are young, maybe we are redshirting a lot but the thought our best players aren't playing yet just doesn't make sense to me.
You play the best you have, let them learn on the job and then recruit some more. Every school has recruiting misses. Have we whiffed on every kid? No way! And if our best are playing.....Must be the coaching then.

On the coaching.
Not a recent development but I see no game planning- do we study film at all?
The days of just lining up and out talent-ing our competition are long gone. People know how to defense the spread now.

We are not prepared to play . Our defense seems one dimensional and easy to scheme against. It is obvious that other schools look at game film and game plan. Mix it up dang it.

I see no heart, no sense of urgency and right now not much hope for a quick turnaround.

Black Saturday · Unread post by **Black Saturday** » Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:46 am

boonetown1 wrote:I just don't really get the play calling, we have the athletes. I think a lot of Scott's downfalls were covered up by such great playmakers in the victory years. I get the build for the future, but after this year we will have lost the winning tradition and it will be very hard to continue to re-group.

And I hate to say it but I think we may loose a player or two this offseason ( ie shaedon meadors, etc.). I hope not, just have a hunch. I stayed until mid-4th last night but it was just hard to watch and came away feeling this is not worth the time or money. I will still support our team, but man this is getting out of control. I hope my job would put me up for review/take action for putting forth a seriously sub-par product.......

They just gave this guy a raise.

And that is why there was a change 2 seasons ago.

AppSt94 · Unread post by **AppSt94** » Sun Oct 05, 2014 10:09 am

AppState89 wrote:
ASPENSOX wrote:Honestly, I am not so sure App wins another game this year. We will be in a dogfight next week with Liberty. Let that sink in for a moment....
I bet we don't win another game this year. After seeing how Ga. State and Idaho played yesterday....it's not going to be good....they got beat, but both almost beat a lot better teams...

Teams have up and down weeks and you can't look at how a team did against a common opponent to gauge future success. Look at NC State. State hung with Florida State and then got throttled by a Clemson team that lost to FSU and a backup QB. It's all how you match up and right now it doesn't look like we match up with anyone. That can change as the season wears on.

AppSt94 · Unread post by **AppSt94** » Sun Oct 05, 2014 10:14 am

Black Saturday wrote:
boonetown1 wrote:I just don't really get the play calling, we have the athletes. I think a lot of Scott's downfalls were covered up by such great playmakers in the victory years. I get the build for the future, but after this year we will have lost the winning tradition and it will be very hard to continue to re-group.

And I hate to say it but I think we may loose a player or two this offseason ( ie shaedon meadors, etc.). I hope not, just have a hunch. I stayed until mid-4th last night but it was just hard to watch and came away feeling this is not worth the time or money. I will still support our team, but man this is getting out of control. I hope my job would put me up for review/take action for putting forth a seriously sub-par product.......
They just gave this guy a raise.

And that is why there was a change 2 seasons ago.

What athletes do we have this year that are on the field? I don't think we will lose any of the redshirts next season for football reasons. They might transfer due to personal reasons but to transfer next year would mean sitting out another year and would be two years of not competing on the field.

AppSt94 · Unread post by **AppSt94** » Sun Oct 05, 2014 10:15 am

luvyosef wrote:It all boils down to four things:

RECRUIT, RECRUIT, RECRUIT
get bigger
get faster
get stronger

If that is the four ingredients then we are on our way. We are recruiting well and we have a new Stregth coach.

luvyosef · Unread post by **luvyosef** » Sun Oct 05, 2014 10:20 am

I like the new strength coach BTW. Anybody in their right mind knew that the move to FBS was not going to be easy and I don't care if gnatsville is looking like gang busters. JUCOS prove nothing for the long term. Satt and staff will do this the RIGHT way. Nut up or stay at home! Go Apps!

Yosef10 · Unread post by **Yosef10** » Sun Oct 05, 2014 10:58 am

boonetown1 wrote:I just don't really get the play calling, we have the athletes. I think a lot of Scott's downfalls were covered up by such great playmakers in the victory years. I get the build for the future, but after this year we will have lost the winning tradition and it will be very hard to continue to re-group.

And I hate to say it but I think we may loose a player or two this offseason ( ie shaedon meadors, etc.). I hope not, just have a hunch. I stayed until mid-4th last night but it was just hard to watch and came away feeling this is not worth the time or money. I will still support our team, but man this is getting out of control. I hope my job would put me up for review/take action for putting forth a seriously sub-par product.......

I, too, think shaedon might be outta here after this year.....

Gomerj · Unread post by **Gomerj** » Sun Oct 05, 2014 11:17 am

No player that had potential to contribute significantly should have been red-shirted. First year FBS too important for getting established and setting the stage for future recruiting (winning program). If players can help this year, play them. P.S. Let's keep supporting team. We are not fair-weather fans.

JMappfan5 · Unread post by **JMappfan5** » Mon Oct 06, 2014 7:52 am

His family seems to be very happy and love our Coaches. If not for the pre-season injury, Shaedon would probably be playing. What is the basis for your opinions? He has a chance to thrive as early as next season!

The next 2 years will be very difficult for the "johnny come lately" fans! The old die-hards will endure these times again and will enjoy the sweet taste and memories when we become successful in a few years!!!

Budman2154 · Unread post by **Budman2154** » Mon Oct 06, 2014 8:18 am

This all started last year when we lost to mediocre FCS teams. Yes we are in transition, but I agree you play hte guys you recruit and then you recruit your butts off to re-stock . If I were SS I would give some thought to the fact that we will be getting a new Athletic Director and that usually doesnt fare well for head coaches of your primary revenue sport that are not only losing but losing while looking uninspired. All you have to do is look at what the stadium looked like at the end of the 3rd quarter. It is all a trickle down effect. You lose looking bad, fans depart, some don't return and funds drop off. Not what we have become use to at "The Rock" and I for one don't want to get use to it.

roachgone · Unread post by **roachgone** » Mon Oct 06, 2014 8:38 am

Like has already been said, I'll cut these guys some slack if there is improvement -- but right now we seem to be getting worse and not better. We were steamrolled this week and it was obvious after one half of the 1st quarter who was gonna win. We have issues EVERYWHERE and our kickoff coverage continues to be the worst I've ever seen. At least 3 times in the last two games the kicker has had to make a TD saving tackle. The days of having 7 wins as a gimme pre season are long gone. I'm afraid we're gonna go 1-11 this yr. Unless something drastic changes I don't see us winning a conference game this year and next yr. probably won't be much better. I wasn't expecting more than 4 wins this yr. but I was expecting for us to at least be competitive . Sat. looked like high school against a college team. Right now we are just plain bad. Hope we get better but not expecting it. New AD has got his hands full.

ASUMountaineer · Unread post by **ASUMountaineer** » Mon Oct 06, 2014 8:51 am

WataugaMan wrote:
sixtoes9134 wrote:I had hoped we would take a step forward tonight.

Sadly, every facet of the game is worse than it was week 1.
We are not very well coached. I realize Sat is only in his second year, however, today's performance is totally unacceptable and falls APPsolutely on his shoulders, although he will not admit it! Satterfield is not getting the job done and being a rookie coach is no longer an excuse!! Losing is one thing and I can accept that, as long as we are giving our all. However, we continually show up unprepared and stumble all over ourselves, week after week. We will be lucky to win next week, agreed we are terrible!!

Hindsight is always 20/20. We'll see what happens with Satterfield, I'm not convinced either way on how he will end up as a HC. However, some of the best coaches started out slowly too. A resurrected Lombardi probably couldn't have coached App to victory on Saturday. USA has a better overall team.

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