New Uni Combos

[Rekdiver]

White and gray are not our colors.....period. Grow a pair like Penn State and yes.....even Georgia Southern and stick with your uniform choice. If we are big intro retro and have to use the old Yosef then go retro with the colors we used before yellow became the new gold. If I see a white helmet I just might boo. *#¥&! Oregon and Nike.

[zooski43]

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. This IS Appalachian State football. One would think after the worst season in decades, the program would focus on how they play, not how they look.

[8993]

If we switch back to old gold, not only will we have to recolor all of our logos, and I can nearly promise you that the block A would much less dramatic with an old gold outline rather than yellow gold, but we would also then have the same colors as too many other schools, with Wake Forest, Idahon, Purdue, and Vanderbilt being off the top of my head.

I know everybody is all about tradition here at Yosef's Cabin, seeing as a few of you think that if you don't support "Victory Yosef," you are suddenly less of a Mountaineer fan and more of a traitor, but this old gold tradition may be one we should leave behind. Off the top of my head, the only school that pops into my mind when I think of our colors is Southern Miss.

[Gonzo]

I don't think people are lesser fans because they don't like VY. I just don't recall hearing a negative word about it over the past two years where we have seen it everywhere including all over this website. Now that it got some bad pub, suddenly some people think it's the worst thing ever. It indicates insecurity and triggers an "oh no! They're laughing at us. Why did we have to make that stupid logo!" in some.

[bcoach]

Seems to me that all these uniforms and helmets also show a certain amount of insecurity. Do we not have enough faith in our university, coaches, and facilities to attract STUDENT athletes that we want to be part of our university community? If a student is going to a given university for the uniform, I am not sure we have chosen the correct player to go after. Lets go after players that have a little more substance.

[AppinVA]

Seems to me that all these uniforms and helmets also show a certain amount of insecurity. Do we not have enough faith in our university, coaches, and facilities to attract STUDENT athletes that we want to be part of our university community? If a student is going to a given university for the uniform, I am not sure we have chosen the correct player to go after. Lets go after players that have a little more substance.

How long has it been since you were last in a high school? The players that have the substance you speak of, don't play football.

[StorminASU]

Seems to me that all these uniforms and helmets also show a certain amount of insecurity. Do we not have enough faith in our university, coaches, and facilities to attract STUDENT athletes that we want to be part of our university community? If a student is going to a given university for the uniform, I am not sure we have chosen the correct player to go after. Lets go after players that have a little more substance.

Is that how things worked in the 20's? Thing you're reading a little bit into it. Why wouldn't we put out all the bait we had to attract recruits? You people complain about the stupidest things. My favorite thing lately is everyone being so excited about old school Yosef's return only to change their minds once the interwebs got going.

[APPRIDE]

My favorite thing lately is everyone being so excited about old school Yosef's return only to change their minds once the interwebs got going.


wait...have you seen much evidence of this? Is anyone actually saying they do not like the old school Yosef? Have many said they have changed their minds about wanting it back? Because I do not really care for it as such a primary logo, say on the side of the helmet...and I am surprised that I have not seen more similar opinions expressed. It seems to me that everyone is in favor of it.

[bcoach]

Seems to me that all these uniforms and helmets also show a certain amount of insecurity. Do we not have enough faith in our university, coaches, and facilities to attract STUDENT athletes that we want to be part of our university community? If a student is going to a given university for the uniform, I am not sure we have chosen the correct player to go after. Lets go after players that have a little more substance.

Is that how things worked in the 20's? Thing you're reading a little bit into it. Why wouldn't we put out all the bait we had to attract recruits? You people complain about the stupidest things. My favorite thing lately is everyone being so excited about old school Yosef's return only to change their minds once the interwebs got going.

As long as we are asking how things worked let me ask this. How did that NO EQUAL thing work out for ya.

[Apptiger]

If we switch back to old gold, not only will we have to recolor all of our logos, and I can nearly promise you that the block A would much less dramatic with an old gold outline rather than yellow gold, but we would also then have the same colors as too many other schools, with Wake Forest, Idahon, Purdue, and Vanderbilt being off the top of my head.

I know everybody is all about tradition here at Yosef's Cabin, seeing as a few of you think that if you don't support "Victory Yosef," you are suddenly less of a Mountaineer fan and more of a traitor, but this old gold tradition may be one we should leave behind. Off the top of my head, the only school that pops into my mind when I think of our colors is Southern Miss.

I get alternates and don't think anyone is advocating a return of old gold as the standard but throwbacks ought to throwback to colors we've actually worn.

Also, not trying to throw stones or start a contest here but if So Miss is the only school you think of, look around a little. Just for giggles I checked, ASU lists Pantone 115U or 116U; So Miss. Pantone 123; Mizzou Pantone 124, and Iowa lists their official color as Pantone yellow 115.

Even more interesting, On the ASU color styles webpage showing the 115U, the trim color on the webpage looks a lot more like the 123 or 124 gold to me. Course I am old and could be going colorblind. Pantone 871C is still an official school color.
http://vt.uc.appstate.edu/style/colors

Running further down the rabbit hole and yes it doesn't matter, I found fewer schools using Pantone 115 - ASU, Iowa, UNCG than the Pantone 123 gold - Mizzou, So Miss., USC, ASU (Arizona), LSU, NDSU and others.

[StorminASU]

My favorite thing lately is everyone being so excited about old school Yosef's return only to change their minds once the interwebs got going.


wait...have you seen much evidence of this? Is anyone actually saying they do not like the old school Yosef? Have many said they have changed their minds about wanting it back? Because I do not really care for it as such a primary logo, say on the side of the helmet...and I am surprised that I have not seen more similar opinions expressed. It seems to me that everyone is in favor of it.

I've seen it various places, mostly on those websites linking to the deadspin story or similar stories calling the Yosef throwback the worst logo of 2013. ASU fans piled on that opinion once it was written by deadspin. Appfan is the only ASU related website I found it on, so you can take that with a grain of salt.

[StorminASU]

Seems to me that all these uniforms and helmets also show a certain amount of insecurity. Do we not have enough faith in our university, coaches, and facilities to attract STUDENT athletes that we want to be part of our university community? If a student is going to a given university for the uniform, I am not sure we have chosen the correct player to go after. Lets go after players that have a little more substance.

Is that how things worked in the 20's? Thing you're reading a little bit into it. Why wouldn't we put out all the bait we had to attract recruits? You people complain about the stupidest things. My favorite thing lately is everyone being so excited about old school Yosef's return only to change their minds once the interwebs got going.

As long as we are asking how things worked let me ask this. How did that NO EQUAL thing work out for ya.

Did I come up with the "No Equal" campaign and forget about it? What do you mean "how did (it) work out for (me)?" To answer what I think you're asking, I think it would have been one of the most brilliant marketing slogans ever had out team/coaching staff held up their end. If No Equal had been around during the threepeat, it would have been lauded to no end. I really fail to see the comparison between a slogan and what jerseys get shown to potential recruits. In your scenario, is the slogan a recruiting tool similar to all the various jerseys?

[yosef13]

Still looking for a reason why Yosef used in the unis is different than the one that the university is using as an alternate logo. The one on the unis is the "old school" one that I've always been accustomed to, while the one used by the university on merchandise looks like a bad sketch of the original. Why are they using two?

[Kgfish]

If we switch back to old gold, not only will we have to recolor all of our logos, and I can nearly promise you that the block A would much less dramatic with an old gold outline rather than yellow gold, but we would also then have the same colors as too many other schools, with Wake Forest, Idahon, Purdue, and Vanderbilt being off the top of my head.

I know everybody is all about tradition here at Yosef's Cabin, seeing as a few of you think that if you don't support "Victory Yosef," you are suddenly less of a Mountaineer fan and more of a traitor, but this old gold tradition may be one we should leave behind. Off the top of my head, the only school that pops into my mind when I think of our colors is Southern Miss.

Who gives a rats azz who else has Old Gold. It was our color for 60+ years. There is a misconception out there we changed because of WF. It was changed because some knuckle head administrator with his head up Cooks Sporting Goods (the supplier we were buying from at the time) rear end, changed it because they (Cooks) couldn't get Old Gold in the lowest cost uniforms available. In other words we went cheap like we have always have done. Why didn't we go to another supplier? Because Cooks made a yearly sizable donation to the Yosef Club that was basically a kick-back. End of history lesson.

[bcoach]

Seems to me that all these uniforms and helmets also show a certain amount of insecurity. Do we not have enough faith in our university, coaches, and facilities to attract STUDENT athletes that we want to be part of our university community? If a student is going to a given university for the uniform, I am not sure we have chosen the correct player to go after. Lets go after players that have a little more substance.

Is that how things worked in the 20's? Thing you're reading a little bit into it. Why wouldn't we put out all the bait we had to attract recruits? You people complain about the stupidest things. My favorite thing lately is everyone being so excited about old school Yosef's return only to change their minds once the interwebs got going.

As long as we are asking how things worked let me ask this. How did that NO EQUAL thing work out for ya.

Did I come up with the "No Equal" campaign and forget about it? What do you mean "how did (it) work out for (me)?" To answer what I think you're asking, I think it would have been one of the most brilliant marketing slogans ever had out team/coaching staff held up their end. If No Equal had been around during the threepeat, it would have been lauded to no end. I really fail to see the comparison between a slogan and what jerseys get shown to potential recruits. In your scenario, is the slogan a recruiting tool similar to all the various jerseys?

The answer to your first question is that you are still using it so you must think it is pretty fantastic.
One of the most brilliant slogans ever but the team and coaches didn't hold up their end? You have to work for the Whitehouse.
Yes those that are influenced by the uniforms would be those that are also influenced by slogans.
The team didn't support the slogan. You really said that?

[StorminASU]

The answer to your first question is that you are still using it so you must think it is pretty fantastic.
One of the most brilliant slogans ever but the team and coaches didn't hold up their end? You have to work for the Whitehouse.
Yes those that are influenced by the uniforms would be those that are also influenced by slogans.
The team didn't support the slogan. You really said that?

I'm not a huge fan of Always Attack, especially after we didn't always attack. It grew on me, but No Equal remains because I still like it because AppState has No Equal in my mind.

The team didn't support the slogan. You really said that?

Where did I say that? I said no one would have ever complained about No Equal if we would have won. In fact, I believe the first complaints to really gain steam were after the first season of use when we got stomped in the playoffs. It was the way we lost that made everyone (that I knew anyway) start disliking that slogan.

Yes those that are influenced by the uniforms would be those that are also influenced by slogans.

You're so confident, I assume you took a pool of recruits or something. So no one in your focus group was influenced by uniforms and wow factor, but not by a slogan? Good to know.

[AppinVA]

If we switch back to old gold, not only will we have to recolor all of our logos, and I can nearly promise you that the block A would much less dramatic with an old gold outline rather than yellow gold, but we would also then have the same colors as too many other schools, with Wake Forest, Idahon, Purdue, and Vanderbilt being off the top of my head.

I know everybody is all about tradition here at Yosef's Cabin, seeing as a few of you think that if you don't support "Victory Yosef," you are suddenly less of a Mountaineer fan and more of a traitor, but this old gold tradition may be one we should leave behind. Off the top of my head, the only school that pops into my mind when I think of our colors is Southern Miss.

Who gives a rats azz who else has Old Gold. It was our color for 60+ years. There is a misconception out there we changed because of WF. It was changed because some knuckle head administrator with his head up Cooks Sporting Goods (the supplier we were buying from at the time) rear end, changed it because they (Cooks) couldn't get Old Gold in the lowest cost uniforms available. In other words we went cheap like we have always have done. Why didn't we go to another supplier? Because Cooks made a yearly sizable donation to the Yosef Club that was basically a kick-back. End of history lesson.

Yep. In fact, I seem to remember that Wake Forest used the yellar color well into the Jim Caldwell years. Really, who has a unique exclusive on colors? UNC-CHeat? Columbia (Duke PxP guy, Bob Harris, even refers to the Tar Heels' color as Columbia Blue) or maybe, The Citadel?

[canes_mj]

I like all of these except for the white helmets with Vintage Yosef on them, and the grey ones with the A logo with the state behind it. One thing I do hope for is that we have a main uniform and wear some of these combos as alternates a couple times per year, as opposed to changing almost every game like Oregon or Maryland. That's what I am assuming we do. Kind of funny this came out right after the thread about old Yosef becoming a secondary logo was starting to die down.

[appmaj]

grey ones with the A logo with the state behind it. .

That is the one I really like

[bcoach]

The answer to your first question is that you are still using it so you must think it is pretty fantastic.
One of the most brilliant slogans ever but the team and coaches didn't hold up their end? You have to work for the Whitehouse.
Yes those that are influenced by the uniforms would be those that are also influenced by slogans.
The team didn't support the slogan. You really said that?

I'm not a huge fan of Always Attack, especially after we didn't always attack. It grew on me, but No Equal remains because I still like it because AppState has No Equal in my mind.

The team didn't support the slogan. You really said that?

Where did I say that? I said no one would have ever complained about No Equal if we would have won. In fact, I believe the first complaints to really gain steam were after the first season of use when we got stomped in the playoffs. It was the way we lost that made everyone (that I knew anyway) start disliking that slogan.

Yes those that are influenced by the uniforms would be those that are also influenced by slogans.

You're so confident, I assume you took a pool of recruits or something. So no one in your focus group was influenced by uniforms and wow factor, but not by a slogan? Good to know.

You better go back and read what you said. As far as that last statement I have no idea what you are trying to say.