DJ Smith

[ericsaid]

By all accounts he was a high IQ player and has experience as a player (all levels), been around successful people, and has recruiting experience.

I would be excited about DJ. Would need a quality OC.

So you want to hire a Co-DC who doesn't call the defense. App is also interviewing two OC's who don't call and didn't design their own offenses. A former Broyle's Award Candidate just walked out of the door. They won't even consider another because "he is 2 games over .500", without understanding that those two winning seasons, and even a playoff win, were two more winning seasons and one more playoff win than they had in the previous 20 years. They won't consider the guy who took a 1 win team to 7 wins in one year, playing at a geographically similar program, in a relatively similar financial situation to the conference that they reside in.

But they will look at Co-OC's, Co-DC's, and a guy who just got fired for going 6-6.

They really need to address the criteria here if people close to the situation are saying they want a proven winner, yet you end up hiring a guy about as far away from contributing to overall team activities as you can get.

I love DJ Smith. I recall seeing him for the first time on the first blocked field goal against Michigan, and his first game action where he just couldn't be kept off of the field, all the way to when he finally got the start with the Packers. But given the state of App State right now, that would be a massive gamble. All hires are gambles, but hiring Co-OC's, Co-DC's, and people who aren't playcallers to be the guy is beyond questionable in my judgment.

I get that Gillin came from Mizzou, and wants to have some weird tie back to that place, but overlooking Tre Lamb would be a mistake, in my opinion. If he's good enough to speak with Charlotte, who will pay more than App, then he is good enough to be interviewed by App, period. You all know the Lamb family. You know the success that follows those guys in whatever they do, it seems.

Gillin, don't make that mistake.

[Seattleapp]

By all accounts he was a high IQ player and has experience as a player (all levels), been around successful people, and has recruiting experience.

I would be excited about DJ. Would need a quality OC.

So you want to hire a Co-DC who doesn't call the defense. App is also interviewing two OC's who don't call and didn't design their own offenses. A former Broyle's Award Candidate just walked out of the door. They won't even consider another because "he is 2 games over .500", without understanding that those two winning seasons, and even a playoff win, were two more winning seasons and one more playoff win than they had in the previous 20 years. They won't consider the guy who took a 1 win team to 7 wins in one year, playing at a geographically similar program, in a relatively similar financial situation to the conference that they reside in.

But they will look at Co-OC's, Co-DC's, and a guy who just got fired for going 6-6.

They really need to address the criteria here if people close to the situation are saying they want a proven winner, yet you end up hiring a guy about as far away from contributing to overall team activities as you can get.

I love DJ Smith. I recall seeing him for the first time on the first blocked field goal against Michigan, and his first game action where he just couldn't be kept off of the field, all the way to when he finally got the start with the Packers. But given the state of App State right now, that would be a massive gamble. All hires are gambles, but hiring Co-OC's, Co-DC's, and people who aren't playcallers to be the guy is beyond questionable in my judgment.

I get that Gillin came from Mizzou, and wants to have some weird tie back to that place, but overlooking Tre Lamb would be a mistake, in my opinion. If he's good enough to speak with Charlotte, who will pay more than App, then he is good enough to be interviewed by App, period. You all know the Lamb family. You know the success that follows those guys in whatever they do, it seems.

Gillin, don't make that mistake.

Has the restraining order Tre lamb filed against you kicked in yet?

[AppinVA]

By all accounts he was a high IQ player and has experience as a player (all levels), been around successful people, and has recruiting experience.

I would be excited about DJ. Would need a quality OC.

So you want to hire a Co-DC who doesn't call the defense. App is also interviewing two OC's who don't call and didn't design their own offenses. A former Broyle's Award Candidate just walked out of the door. They won't even consider another because "he is 2 games over .500", without understanding that those two winning seasons, and even a playoff win, were two more winning seasons and one more playoff win than they had in the previous 20 years. They won't consider the guy who took a 1 win team to 7 wins in one year, playing at a geographically similar program, in a relatively similar financial situation to the conference that they reside in.

But they will look at Co-OC's, Co-DC's, and a guy who just got fired for going 6-6.

They really need to address the criteria here if people close to the situation are saying they want a proven winner, yet you end up hiring a guy about as far away from contributing to overall team activities as you can get.

I love DJ Smith. I recall seeing him for the first time on the first blocked field goal against Michigan, and his first game action where he just couldn't be kept off of the field, all the way to when he finally got the start with the Packers. But given the state of App State right now, that would be a massive gamble. All hires are gambles, but hiring Co-OC's, Co-DC's, and people who aren't playcallers to be the guy is beyond questionable in my judgment.

I get that Gillin came from Mizzou, and wants to have some weird tie back to that place, but overlooking Tre Lamb would be a mistake, in my opinion. If he's good enough to speak with Charlotte, who will pay more than App, then he is good enough to be interviewed by App, period. You all know the Lamb family. You know the success that follows those guys in whatever they do, it seems.

Gillin, don't make that mistake.

Has the restraining order Tre lamb filed against you kicked in yet?

I hope Tre doesn’t make any sudden stops. He might find out how it feels to have a nose, um, up there.

[BeauFoster]

By all accounts he was a high IQ player and has experience as a player (all levels), been around successful people, and has recruiting experience.

I would be excited about DJ. Would need a quality OC.

So you want to hire a Co-DC who doesn't call the defense. App is also interviewing two OC's who don't call and didn't design their own offenses. A former Broyle's Award Candidate just walked out of the door. They won't even consider another because "he is 2 games over .500", without understanding that those two winning seasons, and even a playoff win, were two more winning seasons and one more playoff win than they had in the previous 20 years. They won't consider the guy who took a 1 win team to 7 wins in one year, playing at a geographically similar program, in a relatively similar financial situation to the conference that they reside in.

But they will look at Co-OC's, Co-DC's, and a guy who just got fired for going 6-6.

They really need to address the criteria here if people close to the situation are saying they want a proven winner, yet you end up hiring a guy about as far away from contributing to overall team activities as you can get.

I love DJ Smith. I recall seeing him for the first time on the first blocked field goal against Michigan, and his first game action where he just couldn't be kept off of the field, all the way to when he finally got the start with the Packers. But given the state of App State right now, that would be a massive gamble. All hires are gambles, but hiring Co-OC's, Co-DC's, and people who aren't playcallers to be the guy is beyond questionable in my judgment.

I get that Gillin came from Mizzou, and wants to have some weird tie back to that place, but overlooking Tre Lamb would be a mistake, in my opinion. If he's good enough to speak with Charlotte, who will pay more than App, then he is good enough to be interviewed by App, period. You all know the Lamb family. You know the success that follows those guys in whatever they do, it seems.

Gillin, don't make that mistake.

Has the restraining order Tre lamb filed against you kicked in yet?

Lamb may wreck his car and end up being tied to a bed with broken ankles

[DenverOfTheEast]

By all accounts he was a high IQ player and has experience as a player (all levels), been around successful people, and has recruiting experience.

I would be excited about DJ. Would need a quality OC.

So you want to hire a Co-DC who doesn't call the defense. App is also interviewing two OC's who don't call and didn't design their own offenses. A former Broyle's Award Candidate just walked out of the door. They won't even consider another because "he is 2 games over .500", without understanding that those two winning seasons, and even a playoff win, were two more winning seasons and one more playoff win than they had in the previous 20 years. They won't consider the guy who took a 1 win team to 7 wins in one year, playing at a geographically similar program, in a relatively similar financial situation to the conference that they reside in.

But they will look at Co-OC's, Co-DC's, and a guy who just got fired for going 6-6.

They really need to address the criteria here if people close to the situation are saying they want a proven winner, yet you end up hiring a guy about as far away from contributing to overall team activities as you can get.

I love DJ Smith. I recall seeing him for the first time on the first blocked field goal against Michigan, and his first game action where he just couldn't be kept off of the field, all the way to when he finally got the start with the Packers. But given the state of App State right now, that would be a massive gamble. All hires are gambles, but hiring Co-OC's, Co-DC's, and people who aren't playcallers to be the guy is beyond questionable in my judgment.

I get that Gillin came from Mizzou, and wants to have some weird tie back to that place, but overlooking Tre Lamb would be a mistake, in my opinion. If he's good enough to speak with Charlotte, who will pay more than App, then he is good enough to be interviewed by App, period. You all know the Lamb family. You know the success that follows those guys in whatever they do, it seems.

Gillin, don't make that mistake.

I like this post, Gillin and his posse are all about perception of being big time, Tre Lamb & Mike Jacobs are low hanging fruit in their eyes.

OC's look flashy, trying to duplicate Drinkwitz hire for sure.

Whoever is hired this time better be a bad ass recruiter, because this roster ain't the same as when Drink walked through the door.

[Pikapp79]

Ok I will ask. How is this much different than Clark? This potential hire seems like a big risk vs hiring someone that has had HC experience at the FBS level.

Clark proved he couldn’t move the needle. New guy hasn’t. Difference.

[RaleighApp27609]

Ok I will ask. How is this much different than Clark? This potential hire seems like a big risk vs hiring someone that has had HC experience at the FBS level.

Clark proved he couldn’t move the needle. New guy hasn’t. Difference.

I still haven't read a reason on here why smith would be worth the risk given his lack of head coaching experience.

[Stonewall]

I do not know but have no reason to believe he is on the short list. Even if the shortlist got a bit longer earlier today which I understand that it did.

[t4pizza]

By all accounts he was a high IQ player and has experience as a player (all levels), been around successful people, and has recruiting experience.

I would be excited about DJ. Would need a quality OC.

So you want to hire a Co-DC who doesn't call the defense. App is also interviewing two OC's who don't call and didn't design their own offenses. A former Broyle's Award Candidate just walked out of the door. They won't even consider another because "he is 2 games over .500", without understanding that those two winning seasons, and even a playoff win, were two more winning seasons and one more playoff win than they had in the previous 20 years. They won't consider the guy who took a 1 win team to 7 wins in one year, playing at a geographically similar program, in a relatively similar financial situation to the conference that they reside in.

But they will look at Co-OC's, Co-DC's, and a guy who just got fired for going 6-6.

They really need to address the criteria here if people close to the situation are saying they want a proven winner, yet you end up hiring a guy about as far away from contributing to overall team activities as you can get.

I love DJ Smith. I recall seeing him for the first time on the first blocked field goal against Michigan, and his first game action where he just couldn't be kept off of the field, all the way to when he finally got the start with the Packers. But given the state of App State right now, that would be a massive gamble. All hires are gambles, but hiring Co-OC's, Co-DC's, and people who aren't playcallers to be the guy is beyond questionable in my judgment.

I get that Gillin came from Mizzou, and wants to have some weird tie back to that place, but overlooking Tre Lamb would be a mistake, in my opinion. If he's good enough to speak with Charlotte, who will pay more than App, then he is good enough to be interviewed by App, period. You all know the Lamb family. You know the success that follows those guys in whatever they do, it seems.

Gillin, don't make that mistake.

Has the restraining order Tre lamb filed against you kicked in yet?

Lamb may wreck his car and end up being tied to a bed with broken ankles

Our younger members may not get this reference,

[VNova]

By all accounts he was a high IQ player and has experience as a player (all levels), been around successful people, and has recruiting experience.

I would be excited about DJ. Would need a quality OC.

So you want to hire a Co-DC who doesn't call the defense. App is also interviewing two OC's who don't call and didn't design their own offenses. A former Broyle's Award Candidate just walked out of the door. They won't even consider another because "he is 2 games over .500", without understanding that those two winning seasons, and even a playoff win, were two more winning seasons and one more playoff win than they had in the previous 20 years. They won't consider the guy who took a 1 win team to 7 wins in one year, playing at a geographically similar program, in a relatively similar financial situation to the conference that they reside in.

But they will look at Co-OC's, Co-DC's, and a guy who just got fired for going 6-6.

They really need to address the criteria here if people close to the situation are saying they want a proven winner, yet you end up hiring a guy about as far away from contributing to overall team activities as you can get.

I love DJ Smith. I recall seeing him for the first time on the first blocked field goal against Michigan, and his first game action where he just couldn't be kept off of the field, all the way to when he finally got the start with the Packers. But given the state of App State right now, that would be a massive gamble. All hires are gambles, but hiring Co-OC's, Co-DC's, and people who aren't playcallers to be the guy is beyond questionable in my judgment.

I get that Gillin came from Mizzou, and wants to have some weird tie back to that place, but overlooking Tre Lamb would be a mistake, in my opinion. If he's good enough to speak with Charlotte, who will pay more than App, then he is good enough to be interviewed by App, period. You all know the Lamb family. You know the success that follows those guys in whatever they do, it seems.

Gillin, don't make that mistake.

Has the restraining order Tre lamb filed against you kicked in yet?

Lamb may wreck his car and end up being tied to a bed with broken ankles

Our younger members may not get this reference,

Younger one here: It’s a classic. Better than an ax though.

[ASUPATCH]

For the record, fairly certain Brian Quick blocked the 1st FG against Michigan, not DJ.

[AppSt94]

By all accounts he was a high IQ player and has experience as a player (all levels), been around successful people, and has recruiting experience.

I would be excited about DJ. Would need a quality OC.

So you want to hire a Co-DC who doesn't call the defense. App is also interviewing two OC's who don't call and didn't design their own offenses. A former Broyle's Award Candidate just walked out of the door. They won't even consider another because "he is 2 games over .500", without understanding that those two winning seasons, and even a playoff win, were two more winning seasons and one more playoff win than they had in the previous 20 years. They won't consider the guy who took a 1 win team to 7 wins in one year, playing at a geographically similar program, in a relatively similar financial situation to the conference that they reside in.

But they will look at Co-OC's, Co-DC's, and a guy who just got fired for going 6-6.

They really need to address the criteria here if people close to the situation are saying they want a proven winner, yet you end up hiring a guy about as far away from contributing to overall team activities as you can get.

I love DJ Smith. I recall seeing him for the first time on the first blocked field goal against Michigan, and his first game action where he just couldn't be kept off of the field, all the way to when he finally got the start with the Packers. But given the state of App State right now, that would be a massive gamble. All hires are gambles, but hiring Co-OC's, Co-DC's, and people who aren't playcallers to be the guy is beyond questionable in my judgment.

I get that Gillin came from Mizzou, and wants to have some weird tie back to that place, but overlooking Tre Lamb would be a mistake, in my opinion. If he's good enough to speak with Charlotte, who will pay more than App, then he is good enough to be interviewed by App, period. You all know the Lamb family. You know the success that follows those guys in whatever they do, it seems.

Gillin, don't make that mistake.

Has the restraining order Tre lamb filed against you kicked in yet?

Lamb may wreck his car and end up being tied to a bed with broken ankles

Our younger members may not get this reference,

I’m older and got it. I cringed when I read it. Ouch

[moonshine]

For the record, fairly certain Brian Quick blocked the 1st FG against Michigan, not DJ.

Quick did have the 1st of the 2 blocks. Made up for him dropping a wide open TD in the end zone. Came away with 3 instead of 7 on that drive. Margin of victory should’ve been more.

[AppSt94]

For the record, fairly certain Brian Quick blocked the 1st FG against Michigan, not DJ.

Quick did have the 1st of the 2 blocks. Made up for him dropping a wide open TD in the end zone. Came away with 3 instead of 7 on that drive. Margin of victory should’ve been more.

Don’t forget the FG that hit the upright.

[BallantyneApp]

For the record, fairly certain Brian Quick blocked the 1st FG against Michigan, not DJ.

I think he was just saying DJ was on the field, not the one who blocked the punt

[Seattleapp]

For the record, fairly certain Brian Quick blocked the 1st FG against Michigan, not DJ.

I’m pretty sure Tre lamb blocked that one and the one on the final play.

[AppDub]

So you want to hire a Co-DC who doesn't call the defense. App is also interviewing two OC's who don't call and didn't design their own offenses. A former Broyle's Award Candidate just walked out of the door. They won't even consider another because "he is 2 games over .500", without understanding that those two winning seasons, and even a playoff win, were two more winning seasons and one more playoff win than they had in the previous 20 years. They won't consider the guy who took a 1 win team to 7 wins in one year, playing at a geographically similar program, in a relatively similar financial situation to the conference that they reside in.

But they will look at Co-OC's, Co-DC's, and a guy who just got fired for going 6-6.

They really need to address the criteria here if people close to the situation are saying they want a proven winner, yet you end up hiring a guy about as far away from contributing to overall team activities as you can get.

I love DJ Smith. I recall seeing him for the first time on the first blocked field goal against Michigan, and his first game action where he just couldn't be kept off of the field, all the way to when he finally got the start with the Packers. But given the state of App State right now, that would be a massive gamble. All hires are gambles, but hiring Co-OC's, Co-DC's, and people who aren't playcallers to be the guy is beyond questionable in my judgment.

I get that Gillin came from Mizzou, and wants to have some weird tie back to that place, but overlooking Tre Lamb would be a mistake, in my opinion. If he's good enough to speak with Charlotte, who will pay more than App, then he is good enough to be interviewed by App, period. You all know the Lamb family. You know the success that follows those guys in whatever they do, it seems.

Gillin, don't make that mistake.

Has the restraining order Tre lamb filed against you kicked in yet?

Lamb may wreck his car and end up being tied to a bed with broken ankles

Our younger members may not get this reference,

I’m older and got it. I cringed when I read it. Ouch

I got the reference. I just try to block Kathy Bates' face out of my memory at all costs.

[DomCrosetto]

Ok I will ask. How is this much different than Clark? This potential hire seems like a big risk vs hiring someone that has had HC experience at the FBS level.

Clark proved he couldn’t move the needle. New guy hasn’t. Difference.

I still haven't read a reason on here why smith would be worth the risk given his lack of head coaching experience.

There are reasons given in the video clip that starts the thread.

[Saint3333]

If DL is successful and gets hired away quickly (two years from now), I'd have DJ on the short list.

[DomCrosetto]

If DL is successful and gets hired away quickly (two years from now), I'd have DJ on the short list.

I'd also wonder if Drink went to bat for him this time around? Obviously, even if he did, it didn't do enough but it would be interesting to know if that type of conversation took place.