Great Article on replacement options

[AppStFan1]

Montgomery was strict about character, off the field actions, and grades. But didn't win.

Have to recruit and prepare well for opponents. Those are the two things he did not do. Scottie is a great guy but was in way over his head. We need a leader who knows how to recruit and prepare for opponents and I have no doubt that Gillin will do so.

[t4pizza]

I like the idea of a coach with ties to App, but to me that should not be a factor in choosing the next coach. Call me crazy, but I like the idea of finding a proven coach that might just be interested in finishing out a career here. There are plenty of them out there doing media gigs. Houston Nutt is on CBS and wants to be a coach again. This guy is a 3 time SEC coach of the year and knows what he is doing but since he has no ties to App he apparently has no chance of being our coach. That is just one example of a good proven coach that may be interested but we would never know because he has no relationship to App. I am all for loyalty but I think we should be looking for the best coach, not the best coach with ties to App.

[proasu89]

I like the idea of a coach with ties to App, but to me that should not be a factor in choosing the next coach. Call me crazy, but I like the idea of finding a proven coach that might just be interested in finishing out a career here. There are plenty of them out there doing media gigs. Houston Nutt is on CBS and wants to be a coach again. This guy is a 3 time SEC coach of the year and knows what he is doing but since he has no ties to App he apparently has no chance of being our coach. That is just one example of a good proven coach that may be interested but we would never know because he has no relationship to App. I am all for loyalty but I think we should be looking for the best coach, not the best coach with ties to App.

If Nutt has an agent then we would know if he’s interested.

[appgrad]

I like the idea of a coach with ties to App, but to me that should not be a factor in choosing the next coach. Call me crazy, but I like the idea of finding a proven coach that might just be interested in finishing out a career here. There are plenty of them out there doing media gigs. Houston Nutt is on CBS and wants to be a coach again. This guy is a 3 time SEC coach of the year and knows what he is doing but since he has no ties to App he apparently has no chance of being our coach. That is just one example of a good proven coach that may be interested but we would never know because he has no relationship to App. I am all for loyalty but I think we should be looking for the best coach, not the best coach with ties to App.

If Nutt has an agent then we would know if he’s interested.

Actually - pretty sure he has the same agent as Satt - Jimmy Sexton.

[appgrad]

I want someone who has been a successful coordinator at a high-level G5 or P5, or a successful head coach… I would prefer to not hire someone who has only ever been a position coach, assistant head coach ( which is a title most schools use as an excuse to give assistants a big raise) or a recruiting coordinator, which I do not view the same way as an on-field coordinator.

With the exception of Brown & Ruffin (and Shawn Elliott, who is a non-starter anyway) most of the people listed on this list are position coach lifers. The fact that they have not moved up to a coordinator position tells me that the people who employ them, or others who know their work, do not view them as being even qualified enough to be a coordinator.

Apologies if that offends anyone who has personal relationships with the men listed in that article. I’ve heard nothing but good things about them as people, but that does not mean that they would be good head coaches.

I don't think Dabo was an OC/DC before Clemson hired him. I don't think being either is a prerequisite.

You are arguing the exception, not the rule. Dabo is, far and away, the most successful interim turned HC I know of. Because of he got that interim time though - he had a 7 game audition. We don't have that luxury here.

[ASUPATCH]

I want someone who has been a successful coordinator at a high-level G5 or P5, or a successful head coach… I would prefer to not hire someone who has only ever been a position coach, assistant head coach ( which is a title most schools use as an excuse to give assistants a big raise) or a recruiting coordinator, which I do not view the same way as an on-field coordinator.

With the exception of Brown & Ruffin (and Shawn Elliott, who is a non-starter anyway) most of the people listed on this list are position coach lifers. The fact that they have not moved up to a coordinator position tells me that the people who employ them, or others who know their work, do not view them as being even qualified enough to be a coordinator.

Apologies if that offends anyone who has personal relationships with the men listed in that article. I’ve heard nothing but good things about them as people, but that does not mean that they would be good head coaches.

I don't think Dabo was an OC/DC before Clemson hired him. I don't think being either is a prerequisite.

Urban Meyer was a WR coach for 5 years at Notre Dame(never a coordinator from 1985-2000 in multiple stops) before taking over as Head Coach at Bowling Green then Utah, Florida, Ohio State.

[AppinATL]

I have no idea who would be the best person for the job but I have to think that DG has a good idea of their respective strengths. I believe that Satterfield has provided pretty detailed information on what he thinks would be needed to continue our success as well. We will almost certainly be hiring an "unproven" talent at the head coach level unless we hire McNeil or Elliott. I think it's interesting that Sloan is included on the list but I can't see him being hired as HC when he was passed over as the DC candidate last year. Similar thoughts on Ivey. Those two might ultimately be GREAT candidates but that is my concern in terms of ranking the candidates mentioned.

Was he passed over? I thought he left before Woody did.

[AppinATL]

I have no idea who would be the best person for the job but I have to think that DG has a good idea of their respective strengths. I believe that Satterfield has provided pretty detailed information on what he thinks would be needed to continue our success as well. We will almost certainly be hiring an "unproven" talent at the head coach level unless we hire McNeil or Elliott. I think it's interesting that Sloan is included on the list but I can't see him being hired as HC when he was passed over as the DC candidate last year. Similar thoughts on Ivey. Those two might ultimately be GREAT candidates but that is my concern in terms of ranking the candidates mentioned.

Was he passed over? I thought he left before Woody did.

[AppStFan1]

I like the idea of a coach with ties to App, but to me that should not be a factor in choosing the next coach. Call me crazy, but I like the idea of finding a proven coach that might just be interested in finishing out a career here. There are plenty of them out there doing media gigs. Houston Nutt is on CBS and wants to be a coach again. This guy is a 3 time SEC coach of the year and knows what he is doing but since he has no ties to App he apparently has no chance of being our coach. That is just one example of a good proven coach that may be interested but we would never know because he has no relationship to App. I am all for loyalty but I think we should be looking for the best coach, not the best coach with ties to App.

I agree. I think one of these guys with App ties would be great but if Gillin thinks someone who doesn't have any is the best guy then he should take them.

[97APP]

I don't think having no ties to App will disqualify any candidate.

However, understanding our culture, being familiar with the area and alumni and having relationships with current coaches we may want to retain are all qualities that are positives and have to be taken into consideration. Especially when making a decision between similarly qualified candidates.

[AppSt91]

Houston Nutt's brother, Danny, was the App receivers coach in 1989 (Jerry's first year).

[HighlandsApp]

One question, why is Ponce not listed? Not saying he should be our next HC. But, when looking at the list provided in the article, I think he should at least be considered.

Someone must be thinking that Ponce is already gone too....

[ASUPATCH]

Don't blame not Glenn, Doug Glenn, maybe DG for being the Horton fan boy.

Take it from Daniel Jeremiah with his tweet:

Good name to watch for App State HC opening- Auburn RB coach @CoachTimHorton. He has a great reputation from his time at App State. One of my favorite coaches.

9:09 PM - Dec 3, 2018

[bcoach]

I hope everyone knows that DG has had a list for some time now. It would be very surprising that his hire is not already on that list and very possible has already been offered. Just sayin

[/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09]

I'm seeing a lot of champagne taste on a beer budget.

[97APP]

I hope everyone knows that DG has had a list for some time now. It would be very surprising that his hire is not already on that list and very possible has already been offered. Just sayin

Quite honestly I'd be disappointed if he didn't already have a list prepared. DG has earned my confidence that he'll make a good hire.

[Yosef10]

I want someone who has been a successful coordinator at a high-level G5 or P5, or a successful head coach… I would prefer to not hire someone who has only ever been a position coach, assistant head coach ( which is a title most schools use as an excuse to give assistants a big raise) or a recruiting coordinator, which I do not view the same way as an on-field coordinator.

With the exception of Brown & Ruffin (and Shawn Elliott, who is a non-starter anyway) most of the people listed on this list are position coach lifers. The fact that they have not moved up to a coordinator position tells me that the people who employ them, or others who know their work, do not view them as being even qualified enough to be a coordinator.

Apologies if that offends anyone who has personal relationships with the men listed in that article. I’ve heard nothing but good things about them as people, but that does not mean that they would be good head coaches.

I don't think Dabo was an OC/DC before Clemson hired him. I don't think being either is a prerequisite.

You are arguing the exception, not the rule. Dabo is, far and away, the most successful interim turned HC I know of. Because of he got that interim time though - he had a 7 game audition. We don't have that luxury here.

Dabo also has the luxury of having tons of money at Clemson. Dabo struggled pretty hard there for a while until he realized he was in over his head and went and got ELITE OC and DC who were/are making over a million bucks a year. Credit to Dabo for having the stones to do that but we don’t have the luxury here.

[GregPercussion]

With Mark Ivey (as of now) coaching the bowl game. If we win or lose will determine his overall worth for the HC job. Lot of pressure on him.

[Boroneer10]

I'm seeing a lot of champagne taste on a beer budget.

I think most of the suggestions on here are right in line with our budget, except Elliot because of his buyout.

[The Rock]

With Mark Ivey (as of now) coaching the bowl game. If we win or lose will determine his overall worth for the HC job. Lot of pressure on him.

I think a decision will be made before then. At least I hope so. I dont think Ivey will be the next HC, and I think players and staff understand the situation enough to not put all the pressure and expectaitons on Ivey