Looking Ahead- Lindenwood

[asumba95]

We better pick it up....season starts next week

[Saint3333]

The drops and fumbles are very concerning. But I’m becoming concerned with our QBs timing, the throws continue to be half a second slow as he goes through his reads.

Our secondary will get exploited by above average QBs.

[Pikapp79]

The drops and fumbles are very concerning. But I’m becoming concerned with our QBs timing, the throws continue to be half a second slow as he goes through his reads.

Our secondary will get exploited by above average QBs.

Add in receivers can’t catch. Bad combination.

[MAD Doctor]

As disappointing and concerning as the game was, I’m glad we decided to stink in Week 2 rather than in Week 1. The effort yesterday would get us embarrassed against Southern Miss. I’m glad the game didn’t have another 5 minutes or we would have been in trouble. 4th and long was no problem for our opponent. A lot of work to do this week and we’d better cut out the turnovers or we are in for a long season. 1-0. Conference time. Go App!

[Capt. Ed]

I know it's early but I'm starting to worry about Coach. The players seem more interested in seeking the limelight then they are in playing good fundamental football. Way too many personal foul's, not protecting the ball, and trying to thread the football where it doesn't belong. They're playing for themselves, not the team.

We no longer have the App football traditions we're used to, neither the Coach or the players.

I'm hoping Jerry Moore will help the Coach understand what App's about.

[LKN_Lawyer]

I know it's early but I'm starting to worry about Coach. The players seem more interested in seeking the limelight then they are in playing good fundamental football. Way too many personal foul's, not protecting the ball, and trying to thread the football where it doesn't belong. They're playing for themselves, not the team.

We no longer have the App football traditions we're used to, neither the Coach or the players.

I'm hoping Jerry Moore will help the Coach understand what App's about.

[Capt. Ed]

My post was not meant to be bait. I've been following App State football for over 50 years. I don't like what I've seen so far. No one has to agree with me.

[fjblair]

Stroman’s issues are not the coaching staff’s fault. He’s been that way his whole career. It is an opportunity for the staff to improve him but I am doubtful because the issues go beyond the game.

I am not saying this to be an apologist, but the coaches put the players into position to succeed for the most part. The running game was amazing but the fumbles just can’t happen. The passing game was fine, but players need to catch the ball. Special teams need to play cleaner football. Everything but the actual kicks leave a lot to be desired right now.

My two critiques offensively are no goal line fades at the 1 yard line and for Swann to quit under throwing deep balls.

We threw a goal line fade on second down in the second half when we should have pounded the ball into the end zone. We had to settle for a field goal.

[ericsaid]

I know it's early but I'm starting to worry about Coach. The players seem more interested in seeking the limelight then they are in playing good fundamental football. Way too many personal foul's, not protecting the ball, and trying to thread the football where it doesn't belong. They're playing for themselves, not the team.

We no longer have the App football traditions we're used to, neither the Coach or the players.

I'm hoping Jerry Moore will help the Coach understand what App's about.

I don’t recall a single personal foul related to a player celebrating or doing something to showboat.


I also completely disagree they aren’t playing for their team. The defense had 16 TFL’s for crying out loud. Their coach is a former All-American at App. He has drilled them on what App is and what it means.

[ericsaid]

Stroman’s issues are not the coaching staff’s fault. He’s been that way his whole career. It is an opportunity for the staff to improve him but I am doubtful because the issues go beyond the game.

I am not saying this to be an apologist, but the coaches put the players into position to succeed for the most part. The running game was amazing but the fumbles just can’t happen. The passing game was fine, but players need to catch the ball. Special teams need to play cleaner football. Everything but the actual kicks leave a lot to be desired right now.

My two critiques offensively are no goal line fades at the 1 yard line and for Swann to quit under throwing deep balls.

We threw a goal line fade on second down in the second half when we should have pounded the ball into the end zone. We had to settle for a field goal.

This is why I think some of the coaches with NFL pedigrees are using these games as preseason games. Against Charlotte, DL likely runs a quick RPO and slant or crosser there. Against Lindenwood, he seemingly, inexplicably, runs a fade.


Bill Belichick was making decisions to get more defensive game reps. He didn’t care how much they beat UNCC by, he just wanted to get as many guys snaps as possible.


I saw a ton of rotation yesterday from App down to what I’d assume are 4th team guys in some positions. Some play calls which seemed more like a test than an “I’ve gotta have it in an important game” play calls.

I’ll wait until next week and I’ve been burned on this by Clark but I believe some of the offensive issues were tied to the opponent and game plan being geared to Lindenwood, and showing as little as possible in situational play calls.

[App91]

The drops and fumbles are very concerning. But I’m becoming concerned with our QBs timing, the throws continue to be half a second slow as he goes through his reads.

Our secondary will get exploited by above average QBs.

What reads? He locks on 1st option, half the time 3rd option is wide open on opposite side of the field. Agree with throws being late, too high, behind etc. accuracy is an issue. even completed balls are tough as they dont allow for many YAC

[App91]

Has anyone figured out why the hell we didn’t stop the play to look at the clear as day fumble we recovered?

Was this the one where their guy took it back from us?

[Bigdaddyg1]

I’m sure our coaches would have preferred 42-0 but that would have made zero difference for ranking purposes. The bad teams make bad decisions and bad plays which kill opportunities. We probably won’t have enough room for error when the competition ramps up. Got to clean up stupidity

[ericsaid]

The drops and fumbles are very concerning. But I’m becoming concerned with our QBs timing, the throws continue to be half a second slow as he goes through his reads.

Our secondary will get exploited by above average QBs.

What reads? He locks on 1st option, half the time 3rd option is wide open on opposite side of the field. Agree with throws being late, too high, behind etc. accuracy is an issue. even completed balls are tough as they dont allow for many YAC

He does have an issue with locking on which he didn’t have against Charlotte. This is another reason I believe that these plays being run were not the same plays repped over and over again in practice. The entire offense seemed out of sync to me and that’s why I’m hoping that DL was just running base everything, resulting in the miscues.


Dubinion needs to be carrying the ball with two hands in traffic though. That much is clear. I assume that would give him more power to run behind his pads too.

[ericsaid]

Has anyone figured out why the hell we didn’t stop the play to look at the clear as day fumble we recovered?

Was this the one where their guy took it back from us?

Yes, and App clearly recovered that fumble. He had possession, on the ground. I also thought their Hail Mary touchdown hit the ground. I could’ve sworn I saw it slide between his arm and body and hit the ground. Could be wrong about that one.

The fumble recovery near the goal line should have been App ball. That is a reviewable play and like against JMU in 2022 when they called kick catch interference and claimed it wasn’t reviewable, the refs got it wrong.

[311neers]

The drops and fumbles are very concerning. But I’m becoming concerned with our QBs timing, the throws continue to be half a second slow as he goes through his reads.

Our secondary will get exploited by above average QBs.

What reads? He locks on 1st option, half the time 3rd option is wide open on opposite side of the field. Agree with throws being late, too high, behind etc. accuracy is an issue. even completed balls are tough as they dont allow for many YAC

He does have an issue with locking on which he didn’t have against Charlotte. This is another reason I believe that these plays being run were not the same plays repped over and over again in practice. The entire offense seemed out of sync to me and that’s why I’m hoping that DL was just running base everything, resulting in the miscues.


Dubinion needs to be carrying the ball with two hands in traffic though. That much is clear. I assume that would give him more power to run behind his pads too.

I’ll take an out of sync offense for 505 yards. But we cannot continue to drop the ball and cough it up. Any opponent with a pulse is going to win with 5 extra possessions (including the onside we botched). A lot of questions that will probably be answered within 2 weeks.

[ASUFan4863]

Stroman’s issues are not the coaching staff’s fault. He’s been that way his whole career. It is an opportunity for the staff to improve him but I am doubtful because the issues go beyond the game.

I am not saying this to be an apologist, but the coaches put the players into position to succeed for the most part. The running game was amazing but the fumbles just can’t happen. The passing game was fine, but players need to catch the ball. Special teams need to play cleaner football. Everything but the actual kicks leave a lot to be desired right now.

My two critiques offensively are no goal line fades at the 1 yard line and for Swann to quit under throwing deep balls.

We threw a goal line fade on second down in the second half when we should have pounded the ball into the end zone. We had to settle for a field goal.

I know. You are citing the exact critique I mentioned. I meant my statement as no more of those. Apologies if that wasn’t clear

[Yosef84]

Whether or not this game was a negative or a positive is yet to be determined.

Agree. If it serves as a wake-up call and results in heightened focus, it could be a net positive for sure.

[bcoach]

That was bad. But we lose that game last year in my opinion.

What’s the point of that statement?

The point is that some just can't let go of their hatred for a guy who loves this school but just was not ready.

[Bigdaddyg1]

That was bad. But we lose that game last year in my opinion.

What’s the point of that statement?

The point is that some just can't let go of their hatred for a guy who loves this school but just was not ready.

Ok so theoretically if we played them last year we have a better QB, experienced wide receivers, a running back with no torn ACL, probably don’t drop a ball at the one before a TD. Defense appears to be better this year. I’m kind of leaning towards we still beat this team week 2 last year. Bad take