Bigdaddyg1 wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 06, 2024 9:28 am

Over the last 10 years or so of the the pandemic players who have transferred out of App how many landed in what might be perceived as an upgrade? How many who transferred out have seen increased playing time? Did the "stud" IMG QB end up anywhere?

The only upgrade has been Jalen at Auburn, everybody else was a drop down and I can't think of any that saw significant playing time or stardom.

t4pizza wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 06, 2024 11:53 am

Bigdaddyg1 wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 06, 2024 9:28 am

Over the last 10 years or so of the the pandemic players who have transferred out of App how many landed in what might be perceived as an upgrade? How many who transferred out have seen increased playing time? Did the "stud" IMG QB end up anywhere?

The only upgrade has been Jalen at Auburn, everybody else was a drop down and I can't think of any that saw significant playing time or stardom.

Troy Everett to Oklahoma comes to mind.

Roof to Oklahoma. Didn’t work out due to injury as I recall.

Stonewall wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 06, 2024 2:06 pm

https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... alk-future

Harbaugh's revenue sharing is one of those hypotheticals that sounds "okay" when it rolls of the tongue. However, it is fraught problems.
No matter how you slice it you are transitioning amateur sports into professional. Rev share is fine for professional but contradicts all the basic fundamentals of amateur models. Are they going to rev share by taking the total FBS revenue and equally divide it among all the FBS schools equally? I doubt it. It sounds good as a sound bite but everybody knows Alabama and Texas and all other top P5 schools have no interest in sharing their $100M plus revenue with App State or others.

AtlAppMan wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 06, 2024 2:55 pm

Stonewall wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 06, 2024 2:06 pm

https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... alk-future

Harbaugh's revenue sharing is one of those hypotheticals that sounds "okay" when it rolls of the tongue. However, it is fraught problems.
No matter how you slice it you are transitioning amateur sports into professional. Rev share is fine for professional but contradicts all the basic fundamentals of amateur models. Are they going to rev share by taking the total FBS revenue and equally divide it among all the FBS schools equally? I doubt it. It sounds good as a sound bite but everybody knows Alabama and Texas and all other top P5 schools have no interest in sharing their $100M plus revenue with App State or others.

Amateur model is barely breathing and will be dead soon. The fallout will be programs outside the top 20 and all non rev sports. Will be interesting to see how Title9 is navigated or dismissed.

Pikapp79 wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 06, 2024 9:49 pm

AtlAppMan wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 06, 2024 2:55 pm

Stonewall wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 06, 2024 2:06 pm

https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... alk-future

Harbaugh's revenue sharing is one of those hypotheticals that sounds "okay" when it rolls of the tongue. However, it is fraught problems.
No matter how you slice it you are transitioning amateur sports into professional. Rev share is fine for professional but contradicts all the basic fundamentals of amateur models. Are they going to rev share by taking the total FBS revenue and equally divide it among all the FBS schools equally? I doubt it. It sounds good as a sound bite but everybody knows Alabama and Texas and all other top P5 schools have no interest in sharing their $100M plus revenue with App State or others.

Amateur model is barely breathing and will be dead soon. The fallout will be programs outside the top 20 and all non rev sports. Will be interesting to see how Title9 is navigated or dismissed.

That is the big question. Will we eventually have to see Title IX removed or will football need to be classified separately from all other sports?

The answer has to come from States standing up for amateurism. The states control colleges not federal. I am fine with a two tier system as long as it is the paid league and the amateur league.

There were very few at the Troy basketball game. My children's high school has more paying fans than most of these colleges. It amazes me there is not more interest. I hope football breaks away and all other sports get much more local. App should be playing only SC, Virginia, NC, Tennessee, Georgia teams in Olympic sports. It is NUTS to send teams that far away when it could all be just as interesting locally and cheaper.

311neers wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 05, 2024 6:11 pm

ericsaid wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 05, 2024 2:17 pm

Pikapp79 wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 05, 2024 11:23 am

NIL will turn college athletics into even more of the have’s and have not’s. Afraid we will fall into the second bucket and will be raided every offseason. Yes we can pick up transfers but only what well funded NIL programs don’t want. I doubt we have many fans willing to send hard earned money to guy they don’t know who could up and leave the following season. Even if they do if the guy doesn’t produce to lofty expectations do you think they would be willing to pony up year after year? On top of that there will people making a lot of money setting up NIL programs with no oversight and plenty of headroom to pad their bank account. Crazy times.

Expect the divide in college sports will widen dramatically over the coming years.

Who has been raided, exactly? McLeod left, but who else? As far as I can tell, he is the first, and only to this point, guy who left due to NIL.

Maybe that’s a state of what we’ve been the past 3-4 years…
Not many good enough to make the jump.
It’s a little of both. Kids want to stay, but we haven’t had the studs that can make the jump lately outside of a few.

Could almost guarantee that Kanye, Nate, Hopper, Joey, Favors, and a few others could've had P5 offers if they went into the portal this year.

Don't underestimate the current roster. It's young, and many guys could've left in December for another program but they haven't.

App hasn't really got a slot guy to replace Tucker and Davis but they did get an Under Armour All-American as well as Xavier Short, who was originally committed to App before flipping late to South Carolina.

Again, the portal is a big deal and eventually App will lose someone they can't replace but that hasn't happened yet. Overall, it seems to balance itself out.

As an example, look at the guys Georgia State got to replace Carrol. They got a very high character former walk-on from Clemson and Clemson was very surprised at his decision to leave. I think he was 3rd on their depth chart which isn't all that low in college football.

You can also look at Boise State where their starter transfers to Arkansas and they go and get the number one player from the 2023 class.

spacemonkey wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 06, 2024 11:33 pm

The answer has to come from States standing up for amateurism. The states control colleges not federal. I am fine with a two tier system as long as it is the paid league and the amateur league.

There were very few at the Troy basketball game. My children's high school has more paying fans than most of these colleges. It amazes me there is not more interest. I hope football breaks away and all other sports get much more local. App should be playing only SC, Virginia, NC, Tennessee, Georgia teams in Olympic sports. It is NUTS to send teams that far away when it could all be just as interesting locally and cheaper.

State control goes as far as where the Federalists think that they can achieve the same outcome that they want in totality at the state level. If they feel they can't guarantee the outcome, they will act.

For a national coalition like college football, you'd almost need everyone playing by the same rules. Imagine a world where NC State goes to the SEC and they have a cap on NIL, among other things, while playing other southern states who don't. That wouldn't last very long.

You are wrong in your belief that there is a national coalition right now. It is the wild west. We are playing in your second scenario now!!

Interesting that Noel hasn’t found a home yet. RB’s are a dime a dozen, and he is a pretty good one. Or maybe he has and we just don’t know it yet.

311neers wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:34 pm

Interesting that Noel hasn’t found a home yet. RB’s are a dime a dozen, and he is a pretty good one. Or maybe he has and we just don’t know it yet.

Supposed to visit Mizzou this week.

What is the deal with the offensive lineman we just got from Florida State?

Bigdaddyg1 wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:54 pm

What is the deal with the offensive lineman we just got from Florida State?

What do you mean?

postalapp90 wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:49 pm

311neers wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:34 pm

Interesting that Noel hasn’t found a home yet. RB’s are a dime a dozen, and he is a pretty good one. Or maybe he has and we just don’t know it yet.

Supposed to visit Mizzou this week.

He just committed to Drink. Haha, wow. I love it!! Promise I didn’t time it up like that on purpose.

Bigdaddyg1 wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:54 pm

What is the deal with the offensive lineman we just got from Florida State?

Talked with my in-laws (FSU diehards, sucks) about him. They said he played a decent bit Freshman year, wasn’t really a Norvell recruit. Played a good bit 2020 and was solid but FSU wasn’t good. Got pushed down depth chart as Norvell changed program around thru the portal.
Pretty sure he graduated so going to get a hard worker for sure who knows what a winning team looks like.

311neers wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 07, 2024 5:41 pm

postalapp90 wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:49 pm

311neers wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:34 pm

Interesting that Noel hasn’t found a home yet. RB’s are a dime a dozen, and he is a pretty good one. Or maybe he has and we just don’t know it yet.

Supposed to visit Mizzou this week.

He just committed to Drink. Haha, wow. I love it!! Promise I didn’t time it up like that on purpose.

that ain’t close to Florida

appbio91 wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 07, 2024 5:55 pm

311neers wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 07, 2024 5:41 pm

postalapp90 wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:49 pm

311neers wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:34 pm

Interesting that Noel hasn’t found a home yet. RB’s are a dime a dozen, and he is a pretty good one. Or maybe he has and we just don’t know it yet.

Supposed to visit Mizzou this week.

He just committed to Drink. Haha, wow. I love it!! Promise I didn’t time it up like that on purpose.

that ain’t close to Florida

Was that a reason he went to the portal? To be closer to home in Florida? Haha!

311neers wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 07, 2024 5:59 pm

appbio91 wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 07, 2024 5:55 pm

311neers wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 07, 2024 5:41 pm

postalapp90 wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:49 pm

311neers wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:34 pm

Interesting that Noel hasn’t found a home yet. RB’s are a dime a dozen, and he is a pretty good one. Or maybe he has and we just don’t know it yet.

Supposed to visit Mizzou this week.

He just committed to Drink. Haha, wow. I love it!! Promise I didn’t time it up like that on purpose.

that ain’t close to Florida

Was that a reason he went to the portal? To be closer to home in Florida? Haha!

I’ve heard the reason as “he has a kid in Florida and wants to be closer to it”. Never know, could have potentially gotten enough NIL to bring them to Mizzou, or perhaps that was speculative rumor that grew legs.

Doubtful we’d ever find out how much NIL he got (if any), unless he says the number himself.