Looking Ahead- Lindenwood

[hapapp]

That was bad. But we lose that game last year in my opinion.

What’s the point of that statement?

[311neers]

That was bad. But we lose that game last year in my opinion.

What’s the point of that statement?

Be happy that we won because last year that was an L. Is this a trick question?

[311neers]

Maybe we should retitle this thread ?

Looking Past Lindenwood

I feel like a ton of teams overlooked this week. And then you had bad weather for every game in the Southeast/mid atlantic. Recipe for a disaster weekend with hour long delays. Some teams survived, some didn’t. Glad we did!

[boonetodd]

Stroman makes that TD this game isn’t close

[Bigdaddyg1]

Serious question here- with the proliferation of transfers out of otherwise good G5 programs in essence moving up to power programs for paychecks and the influx of lesser talented players (often dudes at power schools who didn’t play) are these as same G5 schools moving back to high level FCS rather than getting closer to power level? Sorry for the run on sentence but not long ago we had higher rated recruits, actually kept and developed them, had a few seasons with double digit returning starters and legitimately put players in the pros. The shock and dismay today was shared by many and yes the mistakes turned what should have been a 42-0 blowout into a ridiculous one score game. That scrambling Hail Mary was brutal as was the botched onside kick and the second loss of a ball on the one yard line. Last year the cry was “that stuff is fixable” and most of it was never fixed. It is simply going to be extremely difficult to revamp a roster every year and make the pieces come together. Hopefully we do.

[WASU 93]

Serious question here- with the proliferation of transfers out of otherwise good G5 programs in essence moving up to power programs for paychecks and the influx of lesser talented players (often dudes at power schools who didn’t play) are these as same G5 schools moving back to high level FCS rather than getting closer to power level? Sorry for the run on sentence but not long ago we had higher rated recruits, actually kept and developed them, had a few seasons with double digit returning starters and legitimately put players in the pros. The shock and dismay today was shared by many and yes the mistakes turned what should have been a 42-0 blowout into a ridiculous one score game. That scrambling Hail Mary was brutal as was the botched onside kick and the second loss of a ball on the one yard line. Last year the cry was “that stuff is fixable” and most of it was never fixed. It is simply going to be extremely difficult to revamp a roster every year and make the pieces come together. Hopefully we do.

The errors were not scheme or skill issues, the issues were mistakes/concentration issues. Everything is fixable. We looked better against Charlotte last week, than the Tarholes did tonight (and they should have top level talent). It all comes down to execution.

[yosef69]

Serious question here- with the proliferation of transfers out of otherwise good G5 programs in essence moving up to power programs for paychecks and the influx of lesser talented players (often dudes at power schools who didn’t play) are these as same G5 schools moving back to high level FCS rather than getting closer to power level? Sorry for the run on sentence but not long ago we had higher rated recruits, actually kept and developed them, had a few seasons with double digit returning starters and legitimately put players in the pros. The shock and dismay today was shared by many and yes the mistakes turned what should have been a 42-0 blowout into a ridiculous one score game. That scrambling Hail Mary was brutal as was the botched onside kick and the second loss of a ball on the one yard line. Last year the cry was “that stuff is fixable” and most of it was never fixed. It is simply going to be extremely difficult to revamp a roster every year and make the pieces come together. Hopefully we do.

The errors were not scheme or skill issues, the issues were mistakes/concentration issues. Everything is fixable. We looked better against Charlotte last week, than the Tarholes did tonight (and they should have top level talent). It all comes down to execution.

Drops and fumbles. Individual efforts is why this game was close

[yosef69]

Has anyone figured out why the hell we didn’t stop the play to look at the clear as day fumble we recovered?

[ah59396]

We looked like shit today. Anyone that tells you otherwise is full of it. I’m glad we won, but we BARELY deserved it.

We better clean it up quick or we are gonna get rocked in conference.

[AtlAppMan]

By the way, App was a 31.5 pt favorite in this game. Lets make this a lessons learned moment.

[Black Saturday]

We looked like shit today. Anyone that tells you otherwise is full of it. I’m glad we won, but we BARELY deserved it.

We better clean it up quick or we are gonna get rocked in conference.

There is a problem with our wanting to look cool and effortless in 2 attempts to cross the goal line in our first 2 games. That must be corrected.

Defense won the first 2 games for us, we'll see how they fair at SoMIss. Our tackling has been its best so far in a while.

[Bootsy]

Stroman continues to be a mystery. He must play lights out during practice, but it doesn’t carry over to game day?

After that early fumble, I expected to see him focus and tighten his game up. But, alas…

[Bigdaddyg1]

FWIW there are 12 undefeated G5 teams now and we are one of them. To reflect the shift of college football there are also 12 undefeated SEC teams as well. The CFP will play out exactly as they planned it.

[Appst86]

I'm not surprised with people being frustrated but there is a bit of overreaction. I never felt like the other team was beating us- I was frustrated that we were trying to beat ourselves. I'll list the + and - as I see them:

+We controlled the line of scrimmage- both sides of the ball (502-216 total yds).
+QB play- Swann was 19-34 with one interception. How many dropped balls- 6/7? He should have been 25/34.
+Running game minus the fumbles.
+O-line >8 yds/carry and one sack
+Defense -1 yard rushing and 8 sacks

-Concentration/discipline (Penalties, dropped passes are a result)
-Penalties
-Dropped passes
-Turnovers

College football is a strange game- Army loses at home to Tarleton State then wins at K-State. I don't think a moving van was sent to Monken's house after the TSU game. Calm down- we'll be alright.

[BeauFoster]

If this group sounds like the sky is falling, we hired the wrong coach, "bring back Shawn", and "this performance is on the coaches" you haven't read anything. Try perusing Facebook and all he armchair quarterbacks and lounge chair coaches who have all the answers but no football experience. They will make you develop an nervous tick; think Inspector Dreyfus.

Your first problem is being on Facebook. Delete that terrible app and your life will be instantly better, and not just from a sports perspective. Seriously.

Yesterday was not great, but it can serve a purpose. We get to see if this staff is worth a damn, and see it early. It looked to me like we weren’t extremely motivated, and likely looking past an inferior opponent. Can the staff cut that out and get us motivated? Are we going to use all those teachable moments from this game to improve?

Time will tell if yesterday was an anomaly or more of the same. Clark could generally get his teams to perform for about one game a season, then lay a couple of real stinkers, and play so so in the rest. DLo has coached 2 games - his first 2 ever as head coach, so I’m going to withhold judgment until I’ve seen more.

[ASUFan4863]

Stroman’s issues are not the coaching staff’s fault. He’s been that way his whole career. It is an opportunity for the staff to improve him but I am doubtful because the issues go beyond the game.

I am not saying this to be an apologist, but the coaches put the players into position to succeed for the most part. The running game was amazing but the fumbles just can’t happen. The passing game was fine, but players need to catch the ball. Special teams need to play cleaner football. Everything but the actual kicks leave a lot to be desired right now.

My two critiques offensively are no goal line fades at the 1 yard line and for Swann to quit under throwing deep balls.

[Yosef84]

This game was definitely a turd but I don't believe this team is. This was a perfect storm of errors and lack of focus combined with a motivated opponent. Lindenwood fought hard despite being clearly outmatched (check the statistics). App looked like we completely looked past them and thought the game was won before taking the field. I still believe we have the right coach. I like that he doesn't over-react or give the easy answers that people want. I completely agree with the above comments that say the issue was mental in this game...not skill or scheme. A couple of fluke plays (Stroman's fumble and the td pass on a busted play) make it even uglier than all the drops and fumbles. Next week is a new game and I don't think we show up unfocused. Most of the biggest achievements of my life have come on the heals of a set-back. Let's hope that's the situation this season. Anybody who is obsessed with the playoffs is just getting WAY ahead of the game.

I'll be the first to say that my language was pretty bad watching the game. I am as frustrated and disappointed as anyone. I'm just not ready to write anything off after two games (both wins).

[WASU 93]

We looked like shit today. Anyone that tells you otherwise is full of it. I’m glad we won, but we BARELY deserved it.

We better clean it up quick or we are gonna get rocked in conference.

There is a problem with our wanting to look cool and effortless in 2 attempts to cross the goal line in our first 2 games. That must be corrected.

Defense won the first 2 games for us, we'll see how they fair at SoMIss. Our tackling has been its best so far in a while.

WR’s should sprint out of the back of the end zone with the ball secured the rest of the season.

[Bigdaddyg1]

What is the breakdown of our roster by year, significant time played, etc? How many true freshmen, redshirt freshmen? Figure very few of them have played much if any. Next how many guys did we lose who likely would have started or played significant minutes? Next how many incoming portal players are on the two deep currently but for all intents and purposes barely played at their previous school? I think this could be a significant stat. I ignore graduates because that’s not significant. Without looking I’d guess we have very few starters who played significant minutes in big games (trash time aside).

[Stonewall]

Whether or not this game was a negative or a positive is yet to be determined.