Birmingham Bowl

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by Saint3333 » Wed Dec 17, 2025 8:37 pm

If Kohl is gone can we load up on GS -6.5 to pay for 2026 NIL.

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by BUTCH1991 » Wed Dec 17, 2025 8:56 pm

Doubt Wiles is there

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by Saint3333 » Thu Dec 18, 2025 9:13 am

That USF/ODU game was something huh.

ODU's star QB in TP and sits out. USF's QB is out as are WRs, coaches are gone. What should have been a top three G6 matchup was just terrible football.

Putting together our roster is going to be like triage this week.

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by bcoach » Thu Dec 18, 2025 9:51 am

Saint3333 wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 9:13 am
That USF/ODU game was something huh.

ODU's star QB in TP and sits out. USF's QB is out as are WRs, coaches are gone. What should have been a top three G6 matchup was just terrible football.

Putting together our roster is going to be like triage this week.
What does embarasing football on national TV do for your program?

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by fjblair » Thu Dec 18, 2025 10:05 am

bcoach wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 9:51 am
Saint3333 wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 9:13 am
That USF/ODU game was something huh.

ODU's star QB in TP and sits out. USF's QB is out as are WRs, coaches are gone. What should have been a top three G6 matchup was just terrible football.

Putting together our roster is going to be like triage this week.
What does embarasing football on national TV do for your program?
What a farce. It's a disgrace to the school, but mostly to the fans.

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by ASUFan4863 » Thu Dec 18, 2025 10:20 am

bcoach wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 9:51 am
Saint3333 wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 9:13 am
That USF/ODU game was something huh.

ODU's star QB in TP and sits out. USF's QB is out as are WRs, coaches are gone. What should have been a top three G6 matchup was just terrible football.

Putting together our roster is going to be like triage this week.
What does embarasing football on national TV do for your program?
Not much considering we’ve had our fair share of embarrassment the last few years.

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by bcoach » Thu Dec 18, 2025 10:35 am

ASUFan4863 wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 10:20 am
bcoach wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 9:51 am
Saint3333 wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 9:13 am
That USF/ODU game was something huh.

ODU's star QB in TP and sits out. USF's QB is out as are WRs, coaches are gone. What should have been a top three G6 matchup was just terrible football.

Putting together our roster is going to be like triage this week.
What does embarasing football on national TV do for your program?
Not much considering we’ve had our fair share of embarrassment the last few years.
Well I am giving the man a chance, but if we lose to GS two times in one year I will hate him for the rest of my life.

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by AppWyo » Thu Dec 18, 2025 10:46 am

bcoach wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 10:35 am
ASUFan4863 wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 10:20 am
bcoach wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 9:51 am
Saint3333 wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 9:13 am
That USF/ODU game was something huh.

ODU's star QB in TP and sits out. USF's QB is out as are WRs, coaches are gone. What should have been a top three G6 matchup was just terrible football.

Putting together our roster is going to be like triage this week.
What does embarasing football on national TV do for your program?
Not much considering we’ve had our fair share of embarrassment the last few years.
Well I am giving the man a chance, but if we lose to GS two times in one year I will hate him for the rest of my life.
Jerry Moore did that once...

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by bcoach » Thu Dec 18, 2025 10:49 am

AppWyo wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 10:46 am
bcoach wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 10:35 am
ASUFan4863 wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 10:20 am
bcoach wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 9:51 am
Saint3333 wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 9:13 am
That USF/ODU game was something huh.

ODU's star QB in TP and sits out. USF's QB is out as are WRs, coaches are gone. What should have been a top three G6 matchup was just terrible football.

Putting together our roster is going to be like triage this week.
What does embarasing football on national TV do for your program?
Not much considering we’ve had our fair share of embarrassment the last few years.
Well I am giving the man a chance, but if we lose to GS two times in one year I will hate him for the rest of my life.
Jerry Moore did that once...
He is no Jerry Moore.

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by AtlAppMan » Thu Dec 18, 2025 10:57 am



I also saw what Drink said about similar topic.

The system is broken and not sustainable. It has to be fixed

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by ASUFan4863 » Thu Dec 18, 2025 10:58 am

bcoach wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 10:35 am
ASUFan4863 wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 10:20 am
bcoach wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 9:51 am
Saint3333 wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 9:13 am
That USF/ODU game was something huh.

ODU's star QB in TP and sits out. USF's QB is out as are WRs, coaches are gone. What should have been a top three G6 matchup was just terrible football.

Putting together our roster is going to be like triage this week.
What does embarasing football on national TV do for your program?
Not much considering we’ve had our fair share of embarrassment the last few years.
Well I am giving the man a chance, but if we lose to GS two times in one year I will hate him for the rest of my life.
Geez, okay.

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by WASU 93 » Thu Dec 18, 2025 11:15 am

So the season started against Charlotte:

Our transfers vs, their transfers at someone else’s stadium.

It will end in Birmingham:

Our non-transfers vs. their non-transfers at someone else’s stadium”

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by mike87 » Thu Dec 18, 2025 11:39 am

There's nobody who even remotely follows college football that has expectations of seeing premier football in our bowl game or any of the bowl games. No idea why we concern ourselves with what someone else will think of us in the current environment. I'm going to go to Birmingham and enjoy pulling for my team in a bonus game of football.

I love the intel and the discussion on this board but the worrying is nuts sometimes.

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by RaleighApp27609 » Thu Dec 18, 2025 11:40 am

bcoach wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 10:49 am
AppWyo wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 10:46 am
bcoach wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 10:35 am
ASUFan4863 wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 10:20 am
bcoach wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 9:51 am


What does embarasing football on national TV do for your program?
Not much considering we’ve had our fair share of embarrassment the last few years.
Well I am giving the man a chance, but if we lose to GS two times in one year I will hate him for the rest of my life.
Jerry Moore did that once...
He is no Jerry Moore.
Sharing that positive energy again I see.

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by AtlAppMan » Thu Dec 18, 2025 11:45 am

RaleighApp27609 wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 11:40 am
bcoach wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 10:49 am
AppWyo wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 10:46 am
bcoach wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 10:35 am
ASUFan4863 wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 10:20 am


Not much considering we’ve had our fair share of embarrassment the last few years.
Well I am giving the man a chance, but if we lose to GS two times in one year I will hate him for the rest of my life.
Jerry Moore did that once...
He is no Jerry Moore.
Sharing that positive energy again I see.
Remember Jerry Moore took some time to get his sea legs under him. He had some challenges with North Texas and Texas Tech as well as some years at App before the NC runs.

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by biggie » Thu Dec 18, 2025 12:07 pm

WASU 93 wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 11:15 am
So the season started against Charlotte:

Our transfers vs, their transfers at someone else’s stadium.

It will end in Birmingham:

Our non-transfers vs. their non-transfers at someone else’s stadium”
Don't think Stink has any transfers yet.

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by BambooRdApp » Thu Dec 18, 2025 12:32 pm

24/7 is showing no portal entrants for Stink
That is crazy to me if that is accurate.
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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by ericsaid » Thu Dec 18, 2025 1:27 pm

AtlAppMan wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 10:57 am


I also saw what Drink said about similar topic.

The system is broken and not sustainable. It has to be fixed
Want to transfer? You have to be bought out or the program you’re leaving has to be paid a fee. Soccer has been doing this since it went professional in the early 20th century. It isn’t hard.

No free transfers unless the school releases you from your contract. If another program wants you there, they have to coordinate with the program, and the player agent needs to negotiate with each of the programs to determine an adequate transfer fee.

No lore free asset transfers. That’s what players are, they are assets. They lost the ability to be considered solely “players” or “students” once revenue share began. Now they are assets to be bought and sold and they did this to themselves.

Three year contracts, five years to play with no Redshirt rule. At the end of three you can transfer fee free. Any time before that and you either can be released and bought out by your program or a program you want to transfer to has to negotiate a fee.

This rewards programs who have great talent identification and ensures that those programs can then go out and get replacements without purely relying on television, student fees, or taxpayer funds.

For the playoff? 10 autobids with a reevaluation after each season to change who gets how many bids, for a total of 20. No more subjective, back room horse trading on playoff spots. Each G5 conference gets a bid, and the conferences in the P’s get a set number based on order of finish. Remove the rankings completely for anything other than seeding.


This turns the playoff into a tournament worthy of respect and above repudiation as there will be nothing subjective. It brings meaning to each FBS conference and will drive value up in television across the board as every game has the potential to matter.


I’ll probably be flamed for this post but, one last thing. There needs to be an anti-trust exemption given to the NCAA so that they can enforce the rules that govern hundreds of taxpayer funded athletics programs. Right now it’s a siphon on we, the people, and it’s corruption bordering on an oligarchical movement right now. It isn’t free enterprise and it isn’t a “free market”. Hardly anyone fully supports unrestricted markets. There has to be guardrails, unless everyone is acting in good faith and even Adam Smith recognized this.


My idea will never be implemented and even if it is, in part, it won’t be for another 20 years.

Sorry for the wall of text guys and I know a lot of you will disagree but it really is the only thing I can think of that stabilizes the sport while providing reasonable guard rails, post season expectations, and retains the importance of the regular season.

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by mike87 » Thu Dec 18, 2025 2:14 pm

ericsaid wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 1:27 pm
AtlAppMan wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 10:57 am


I also saw what Drink said about similar topic.

The system is broken and not sustainable. It has to be fixed
Want to transfer? You have to be bought out or the program you’re leaving has to be paid a fee. Soccer has been doing this since it went professional in the early 20th century. It isn’t hard.

No free transfers unless the school releases you from your contract. If another program wants you there, they have to coordinate with the program, and the player agent needs to negotiate with each of the programs to determine an adequate transfer fee.

No lore free asset transfers. That’s what players are, they are assets. They lost the ability to be considered solely “players” or “students” once revenue share began. Now they are assets to be bought and sold and they did this to themselves.

Three year contracts, five years to play with no Redshirt rule. At the end of three you can transfer fee free. Any time before that and you either can be released and bought out by your program or a program you want to transfer to has to negotiate a fee.

This rewards programs who have great talent identification and ensures that those programs can then go out and get replacements without purely relying on television, student fees, or taxpayer funds.

For the playoff? 10 autobids with a reevaluation after each season to change who gets how many bids, for a total of 20. No more subjective, back room horse trading on playoff spots. Each G5 conference gets a bid, and the conferences in the P’s get a set number based on order of finish. Remove the rankings completely for anything other than seeding.


This turns the playoff into a tournament worthy of respect and above repudiation as there will be nothing subjective. It brings meaning to each FBS conference and will drive value up in television across the board as every game has the potential to matter.


I’ll probably be flamed for this post but, one last thing. There needs to be an anti-trust exemption given to the NCAA so that they can enforce the rules that govern hundreds of taxpayer funded athletics programs. Right now it’s a siphon on we, the people, and it’s corruption bordering on an oligarchical movement right now. It isn’t free enterprise and it isn’t a “free market”. Hardly anyone fully supports unrestricted markets. There has to be guardrails, unless everyone is acting in good faith and even Adam Smith recognized this.


My idea will never be implemented and even if it is, in part, it won’t be for another 20 years.

Sorry for the wall of text guys and I know a lot of you will disagree but it really is the only thing I can think of that stabilizes the sport while providing reasonable guard rails, post season expectations, and retains the importance of the regular season.
I could throw a couple stones at the redshirt and playoff part but this is good. Amazing what a little common-sense injection could do.

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by NattyBumppo'sRevenge » Thu Dec 18, 2025 2:29 pm

biggie wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 12:07 pm
WASU 93 wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 11:15 am
So the season started against Charlotte:

Our transfers vs, their transfers at someone else’s stadium.

It will end in Birmingham:

Our non-transfers vs. their non-transfers at someone else’s stadium”
Don't think Stink has any transfers yet.
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