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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by Bootsy » Wed Dec 10, 2025 3:12 pm

Saint3333 wrote:
Wed Dec 10, 2025 8:07 am
I like this version of DL, that guy is great for the fan base.

I’m starting to see a trend how he interacts with external media types vs internal. Hopefully the latter changes.
As long as App wins games, I’m cool with him being whoever he wants to be.

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by Appst86 » Wed Dec 10, 2025 3:23 pm

bcoach wrote:
Wed Dec 10, 2025 11:10 am
spacemonkey wrote:
Wed Dec 10, 2025 12:06 am
bcoach wrote:
Tue Dec 09, 2025 9:11 pm
wb247 wrote:
Tue Dec 09, 2025 6:56 pm
bcoach wrote:
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Why?
Integrity of the game?

Because actions should have consequences? Acting like a petulant child shouldn't be rewarded.
Actually a bunch of schools turned down bowl bids. I don't understand why it should be a requirement.
It is kind of a requirement for SBC because we begged ESPN to create bowls for us.
Was there a contract? I don't mean to argue but it is my understanding a lot of schools lose money going to bowls. Now that we have to pay players it seems a good business decision to skip a bowl.
Not sure what the legal/contract requirements are for the SBC but the Big 12 fined K-State and Iowa State $500k each for opting out. They did not fine Baylor and UCF because neither were technically qualified (only 5 wins and declined as replacement teams).

"While the Conference acknowledges the difficult timing around coaching changes, the Big 12 is responsible for fulfilling its contractual obligations to its bowl partners," the league said in a statement Sunday.

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by Yosefus » Wed Dec 10, 2025 4:43 pm

All I know is if the coach is stoked to play another game after this year then I am too.
In fact win or lose it's several more practice sessions for those who will be back next year. So we got that at least.

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by BambooRdApp » Wed Dec 10, 2025 5:15 pm

Yosefus wrote:
Wed Dec 10, 2025 4:43 pm
All I know is if the coach is stoked to play another game after this year then I am too.
In fact win or lose it's several more practice sessions for those who will be back next year. So we got that at least.
Listened to the Nothing But App St podcast.. Larkins appears to be stoked to be playing. He will have to lay off Skyline Chili for a few more weeks.
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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by AppWyo » Wed Dec 10, 2025 10:13 pm

It is always cool to have your name associated with the "Big Boys."

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-fo ... ppeared_on

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by Seattleapp » Thu Dec 11, 2025 12:20 am

AppWyo wrote:
Wed Dec 10, 2025 10:13 pm
It is always cool to have your name associated with the "Big Boys."

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-fo ... ppeared_on
You’re working overtime to shine this up.

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by Seattleapp » Thu Dec 11, 2025 12:21 am

AppWyo wrote:
Tue Dec 09, 2025 10:06 pm
T-Dog wrote:
Tue Dec 09, 2025 6:43 pm
Dowell was on the Josh Graham Show today. Said if we had to play in a Walmart parking lot, we'd do it. Said he called 4-5 seniors before accepting and they were all for playing.
Dowell Loggains was fired up; if the App fans are as excited as he is this is going to be an epic game in the Deeper than Hate rivalry.

Are you Loggians publicist?

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by BeauFoster » Thu Dec 11, 2025 6:20 am

Appst86 wrote:
Wed Dec 10, 2025 3:23 pm
bcoach wrote:
Wed Dec 10, 2025 11:10 am
spacemonkey wrote:
Wed Dec 10, 2025 12:06 am
bcoach wrote:
Tue Dec 09, 2025 9:11 pm
wb247 wrote:
Tue Dec 09, 2025 6:56 pm


Integrity of the game?

Because actions should have consequences? Acting like a petulant child shouldn't be rewarded.
Actually a bunch of schools turned down bowl bids. I don't understand why it should be a requirement.
It is kind of a requirement for SBC because we begged ESPN to create bowls for us.
Was there a contract? I don't mean to argue but it is my understanding a lot of schools lose money going to bowls. Now that we have to pay players it seems a good business decision to skip a bowl.
Not sure what the legal/contract requirements are for the SBC but the Big 12 fined K-State and Iowa State $500k each for opting out. They did not fine Baylor and UCF because neither were technically qualified (only 5 wins and declined as replacement teams).

"While the Conference acknowledges the difficult timing around coaching changes, the Big 12 is responsible for fulfilling its contractual obligations to its bowl partners," the league said in a statement Sunday.
Marshall was fined by the conference a couple years ago for declining a bowl bid
Give 'em hell!

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by WataugaMan » Thu Dec 11, 2025 7:07 am

Yosefus wrote:
Wed Dec 10, 2025 4:43 pm
All I know is if the coach is stoked to play another game after this year then I am too.
In fact win or lose it's several more practice sessions for those who will be back next year. So we got that at least.
Question of the Day: The coach stated after the Arky State loss that we would finish strong, should we take him for his word?

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by AppBox » Thu Dec 11, 2025 7:09 am

Seattleapp wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 12:20 am
AppWyo wrote:
Wed Dec 10, 2025 10:13 pm
It is always cool to have your name associated with the "Big Boys."

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-fo ... ppeared_on
You’re working overtime to shine this up.
Yeah, how crazy to share articles about the bowl in a thread about the bowl. :lol:

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by Seattleapp » Thu Dec 11, 2025 9:47 am

AppBox wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 7:09 am
Seattleapp wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 12:20 am
AppWyo wrote:
Wed Dec 10, 2025 10:13 pm
It is always cool to have your name associated with the "Big Boys."

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-fo ... ppeared_on
You’re working overtime to shine this up.
Yeah, how crazy to share articles about the bowl in a thread about the bowl. :lol:
It’s sad this is what we are now excited about.

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by Stonewall » Thu Dec 11, 2025 9:48 am

Downsizing of bowls has begun.

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by RaleighApp27609 » Thu Dec 11, 2025 9:56 am

Stonewall wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 9:48 am
Downsizing of bowls has begun.
Where did you see that?

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by ASUFan4863 » Thu Dec 11, 2025 10:00 am

Seattleapp wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 12:21 am
AppWyo wrote:
Tue Dec 09, 2025 10:06 pm
T-Dog wrote:
Tue Dec 09, 2025 6:43 pm
Dowell was on the Josh Graham Show today. Said if we had to play in a Walmart parking lot, we'd do it. Said he called 4-5 seniors before accepting and they were all for playing.
Dowell Loggains was fired up; if the App fans are as excited as he is this is going to be an epic game in the Deeper than Hate rivalry.

Are you Loggians publicist?
I see you are in a bad mood today with a few posts. Why is it a bad thing for a fan to be excited about a football game and share an interview with the head coach, who also seem excited because his players sound excited?

Too many people look for a negative in everything. If Dowell declined the bowl, many people would have been negative about that as well.

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by RaleighApp27609 » Thu Dec 11, 2025 10:13 am

ASUFan4863 wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 10:00 am
Seattleapp wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 12:21 am
AppWyo wrote:
Tue Dec 09, 2025 10:06 pm
T-Dog wrote:
Tue Dec 09, 2025 6:43 pm
Dowell was on the Josh Graham Show today. Said if we had to play in a Walmart parking lot, we'd do it. Said he called 4-5 seniors before accepting and they were all for playing.
Dowell Loggains was fired up; if the App fans are as excited as he is this is going to be an epic game in the Deeper than Hate rivalry.

Are you Loggians publicist?
I see you are in a bad mood today with a few posts. Why is it a bad thing for a fan to be excited about a football game and share an interview with the head coach, who also seem excited because his players sound excited?

Too many people look for a negative in everything. If Dowell declined the bowl, many people would have been negative about that as well.
Agreed. Thankful to be able to watch App play over Christmas break. I am a glass half full type of person so I think going to a bowl and winning it is a step in the right direction in getting the program back on track after the last few years.

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by Seattleapp » Thu Dec 11, 2025 10:14 am

ASUFan4863 wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 10:00 am
Seattleapp wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 12:21 am
AppWyo wrote:
Tue Dec 09, 2025 10:06 pm
T-Dog wrote:
Tue Dec 09, 2025 6:43 pm
Dowell was on the Josh Graham Show today. Said if we had to play in a Walmart parking lot, we'd do it. Said he called 4-5 seniors before accepting and they were all for playing.
Dowell Loggains was fired up; if the App fans are as excited as he is this is going to be an epic game in the Deeper than Hate rivalry.

Are you Loggians publicist?
I see you are in a bad mood today with a few posts. Why is it a bad thing for a fan to be excited about a football game and share an interview with the head coach, who also seem excited because his players sound excited?

Too many people look for a negative in everything. If Dowell declined the bowl, many people would have been negative about that as well.
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I’ve been optimistic about App State for decades. I love App State and its football program. And it’s not about me not pulling for App. It’s the complete snow job DLO does in interviews like this. Until he proves otherwise, he’s just a used car salesman to me. I want the program to be successful and if he’s the guy I’ll be elated, but guys are jumping ship left and right and while it’s easy to say, goood riddance to them, it also says they don’t want to play for this staff. I also watched this team play, mostly poorly, all season under this guy and I watched his aloof bordering on dismissive attitude when questioned about it. So it rings hollow to me that he’s suddenly energized about this game. When a lot of the guys playing in it have already said they don’t want to play for him or App State next season. I traveled thousands of miles this year to get the chance to watch App play in person. And I’d love to talk about this over a drink with anyone on this board, but I’m Burnt out a bit with DLO

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by ASUFan4863 » Thu Dec 11, 2025 10:32 am

Seattleapp wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 10:14 am
ASUFan4863 wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 10:00 am
Seattleapp wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 12:21 am
AppWyo wrote:
Tue Dec 09, 2025 10:06 pm
T-Dog wrote:
Tue Dec 09, 2025 6:43 pm
Dowell was on the Josh Graham Show today. Said if we had to play in a Walmart parking lot, we'd do it. Said he called 4-5 seniors before accepting and they were all for playing.
Dowell Loggains was fired up; if the App fans are as excited as he is this is going to be an epic game in the Deeper than Hate rivalry.

Are you Loggians publicist?
I see you are in a bad mood today with a few posts. Why is it a bad thing for a fan to be excited about a football game and share an interview with the head coach, who also seem excited because his players sound excited?

Too many people look for a negative in everything. If Dowell declined the bowl, many people would have been negative about that as well.
[/quote

I’ve been optimistic about App State for decades. I love App State and its football program. And it’s not about me not pulling for App. It’s the complete snow job DLO does in interviews like this. Until he proves otherwise, he’s just a used car salesman to me. I want the program to be successful and if he’s the guy I’ll be elated, but guys are jumping ship left and right and while it’s easy to say, goood riddance to them, it also says they don’t want to play for this staff. I also watched this team play, mostly poorly, all season under this guy and I watched his aloof bordering on dismissive attitude when questioned about it. So it rings hollow to me that he’s suddenly energized about this game. When a lot of the guys playing in it have already said they don’t want to play for him or App State next season. I traveled thousands of miles this year to get the chance to watch App play in person. And I’d love to talk about this over a drink with anyone on this board, but I’m Burnt out a bit with DLO
90% of the players entering the portal right now were not recruited by the current staff. I don’t think that’s an indictment on the staff but rather the reality of the situation that the coaches want guys they recruited or developed on the roster. 90% of the players leaving were not going to factor into any equation here, so why should they stay?

The two primary departures who were recruited by the new staff (Porter and Manuel) will make some money.

The portal is also a two way street. Some players are told to enter due to talent or character issues.

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by ASUFan4863 » Thu Dec 11, 2025 10:33 am

RaleighApp27609 wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 9:56 am
Stonewall wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 9:48 am
Downsizing of bowls has begun.
Where did you see that?

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by EastTNMountaineer » Thu Dec 11, 2025 10:36 am

Seattleapp wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 10:14 am
ASUFan4863 wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 10:00 am
Seattleapp wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 12:21 am
AppWyo wrote:
Tue Dec 09, 2025 10:06 pm
T-Dog wrote:
Tue Dec 09, 2025 6:43 pm
Dowell was on the Josh Graham Show today. Said if we had to play in a Walmart parking lot, we'd do it. Said he called 4-5 seniors before accepting and they were all for playing.
Dowell Loggains was fired up; if the App fans are as excited as he is this is going to be an epic game in the Deeper than Hate rivalry.

Are you Loggians publicist?
I see you are in a bad mood today with a few posts. Why is it a bad thing for a fan to be excited about a football game and share an interview with the head coach, who also seem excited because his players sound excited?

Too many people look for a negative in everything. If Dowell declined the bowl, many people would have been negative about that as well.
[/quote

I’ve been optimistic about App State for decades. I love App State and its football program. And it’s not about me not pulling for App. It’s the complete snow job DLO does in interviews like this. Until he proves otherwise, he’s just a used car salesman to me. I want the program to be successful and if he’s the guy I’ll be elated, but guys are jumping ship left and right and while it’s easy to say, goood riddance to them, it also says they don’t want to play for this staff. I also watched this team play, mostly poorly, all season under this guy and I watched his aloof bordering on dismissive attitude when questioned about it. So it rings hollow to me that he’s suddenly energized about this game. When a lot of the guys playing in it have already said they don’t want to play for him or App State next season. I traveled thousands of miles this year to get the chance to watch App play in person. And I’d love to talk about this over a drink with anyone on this board, but I’m Burnt out a bit with DLO
I've watched a lot of his press conferences and interviews since he was hired. It seems to me that Dowell didn't truly realize what he was stepping into at app. Just in terms of the brand and the fan base. Since the season ended he sounds much more optimistic about the program and has been more open about internal discussions. I believe he will be the guy to get this turned around, and he'll hit his stride in 2026. I could 100% be proven wrong though.

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by goapps93 » Thu Dec 11, 2025 10:39 am

ASUFan4863 wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 10:33 am
RaleighApp27609 wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 9:56 am
Stonewall wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 9:48 am
Downsizing of bowls has begun.
Where did you see that?
https://x.com/brett_mcmurphy/status/199 ... 80410?s=46
LA Bowl was a pretty stupid startup anyway. It was doomed from the beginning. I do think more will follow though.
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