So AL discussion

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Re: So AL discussion

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:58 pm

yosef69 wrote:
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Tbatchelor1977 wrote:
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Interesting that there was no question in the presser regarding the incident..not even a softball question related to the incident
No reason to ask it. Coach isn’t going to answer so why waste it.
I would approach the same way as you said but that does not stop most journalists so it is very surprising nobody asked. How many times do you hear a coach say no comment in a press conference and I could tell you that 80-90% of the time they say that most of us, including the reporter, no the "no comment" response is coming.

South Alabama people are hoping this is something that gets Spurlin arrested, we have to forfeit, or something against us. People on their board want to make this into a big thing. If Spurlin did spit then he should be suspended next week and I would say that Gray should be out next week as well. I would be fine if both got suspended 2 games and had to publicly apologize so we could move on. I can tell by the South Alabama message board that they want to make this a "stain" as they put it on us.
Forfeit? Is that even a thing?
Go read the 247 USA board. Someone brought it up. I just laughed but I also laugh at some of the crazy stuff I have read some of ours say. They are truly desperate for this and some lady on Twitter is claiming she knows for a fact he did spit. So far it is a he said, he said situation so we don't know.

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Re: So AL discussion

Unread post by yosef69 » Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:02 pm

AppStFan1 wrote:
Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:58 pm
yosef69 wrote:
Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:54 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:48 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Sun Nov 14, 2021 11:33 am
Tbatchelor1977 wrote:
Sun Nov 14, 2021 11:18 am
Interesting that there was no question in the presser regarding the incident..not even a softball question related to the incident
No reason to ask it. Coach isn’t going to answer so why waste it.
I would approach the same way as you said but that does not stop most journalists so it is very surprising nobody asked. How many times do you hear a coach say no comment in a press conference and I could tell you that 80-90% of the time they say that most of us, including the reporter, no the "no comment" response is coming.

South Alabama people are hoping this is something that gets Spurlin arrested, we have to forfeit, or something against us. People on their board want to make this into a big thing. If Spurlin did spit then he should be suspended next week and I would say that Gray should be out next week as well. I would be fine if both got suspended 2 games and had to publicly apologize so we could move on. I can tell by the South Alabama message board that they want to make this a "stain" as they put it on us.
Forfeit? Is that even a thing?
Go read the 247 USA board. Someone brought it up. I just laughed but I also laugh at some of the crazy stuff I have read some of ours say. They are truly desperate for this and some lady on Twitter is claiming she knows for a fact he did spit. So far it is a he said, he said situation so we don't know.
They’re saying because he played while ejected. Wonder if it’s a valid point?

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Re: So AL discussion

Unread post by VNova » Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:06 pm

yosef69 wrote:
Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:54 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:48 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Sun Nov 14, 2021 11:33 am
Tbatchelor1977 wrote:
Sun Nov 14, 2021 11:18 am
Interesting that there was no question in the presser regarding the incident..not even a softball question related to the incident
No reason to ask it. Coach isn’t going to answer so why waste it.
I would approach the same way as you said but that does not stop most journalists so it is very surprising nobody asked. How many times do you hear a coach say no comment in a press conference and I could tell you that 80-90% of the time they say that most of us, including the reporter, no the "no comment" response is coming.

South Alabama people are hoping this is something that gets Spurlin arrested, we have to forfeit, or something against us. People on their board want to make this into a big thing. If Spurlin did spit then he should be suspended next week and I would say that Gray should be out next week as well. I would be fine if both got suspended 2 games and had to publicly apologize so we could move on. I can tell by the South Alabama message board that they want to make this a "stain" as they put it on us.
Forfeit? Is that even a thing?
On the 5th unsportsmanlike penalty, it sure is possible. Unless the NCAA vacates the win, it'll stand. It's really just message board fodder.

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Re: So AL discussion

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:09 pm

yosef69 wrote:
Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:02 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
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yosef69 wrote:
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AppStFan1 wrote:
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AppSt94 wrote:
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No reason to ask it. Coach isn’t going to answer so why waste it.
I would approach the same way as you said but that does not stop most journalists so it is very surprising nobody asked. How many times do you hear a coach say no comment in a press conference and I could tell you that 80-90% of the time they say that most of us, including the reporter, no the "no comment" response is coming.

South Alabama people are hoping this is something that gets Spurlin arrested, we have to forfeit, or something against us. People on their board want to make this into a big thing. If Spurlin did spit then he should be suspended next week and I would say that Gray should be out next week as well. I would be fine if both got suspended 2 games and had to publicly apologize so we could move on. I can tell by the South Alabama message board that they want to make this a "stain" as they put it on us.
Forfeit? Is that even a thing?
Go read the 247 USA board. Someone brought it up. I just laughed but I also laugh at some of the crazy stuff I have read some of ours say. They are truly desperate for this and some lady on Twitter is claiming she knows for a fact he did spit. So far it is a he said, he said situation so we don't know.
They’re saying because he played while ejected. Wonder if it’s a valid point?
It could be but Clark said he was told just Spurlin and then apparently South Alabama complained and the ref then said it was both players. I just don't see Clark defying an ejection like that intentionally. It is really just message board talk because I don't see any reason to make us forfeit the win.

The fact they want to throw the book at him without concrete evidence (clip appears he could have spit but you don't see saliva coming out of his month) is sour grapes. If they can provide evidence of saliva on his uniform or video of him wiping his face then I would side with them and say that Spurlin should be suspended 2-3 games but until then I think it should be left as is for him. Gray clearly threw punches so I would think he should be out this coming week for them.

I wonder if perhaps the leagues will look into fining NIL money in the future and this is the type of thing that would cause players to get a fine in the future?

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Re: So AL discussion

Unread post by AppNC » Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:21 pm

yosef69 wrote:
Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:02 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:58 pm
yosef69 wrote:
Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:54 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:48 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Sun Nov 14, 2021 11:33 am


No reason to ask it. Coach isn’t going to answer so why waste it.
I would approach the same way as you said but that does not stop most journalists so it is very surprising nobody asked. How many times do you hear a coach say no comment in a press conference and I could tell you that 80-90% of the time they say that most of us, including the reporter, no the "no comment" response is coming.

South Alabama people are hoping this is something that gets Spurlin arrested, we have to forfeit, or something against us. People on their board want to make this into a big thing. If Spurlin did spit then he should be suspended next week and I would say that Gray should be out next week as well. I would be fine if both got suspended 2 games and had to publicly apologize so we could move on. I can tell by the South Alabama message board that they want to make this a "stain" as they put it on us.
Forfeit? Is that even a thing?
Go read the 247 USA board. Someone brought it up. I just laughed but I also laugh at some of the crazy stuff I have read some of ours say. They are truly desperate for this and some lady on Twitter is claiming she knows for a fact he did spit. So far it is a he said, he said situation so we don't know.
They’re saying because he played while ejected. Wonder if it’s a valid point?
He did not play a play. He went onto the field not realizing he had been ejected and officials removed him before play was run.

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Re: So AL discussion

Unread post by Mjohn1988 » Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:21 pm

Spurlin went back on the field but didn’t play a down.

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Re: So AL discussion

Unread post by AppSt94 » Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:32 pm

yosef69 wrote:
Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:54 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:48 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Sun Nov 14, 2021 11:33 am
Tbatchelor1977 wrote:
Sun Nov 14, 2021 11:18 am
Interesting that there was no question in the presser regarding the incident..not even a softball question related to the incident
No reason to ask it. Coach isn’t going to answer so why waste it.
I would approach the same way as you said but that does not stop most journalists so it is very surprising nobody asked. How many times do you hear a coach say no comment in a press conference and I could tell you that 80-90% of the time they say that most of us, including the reporter, no the "no comment" response is coming.

South Alabama people are hoping this is something that gets Spurlin arrested, we have to forfeit, or something against us. People on their board want to make this into a big thing. If Spurlin did spit then he should be suspended next week and I would say that Gray should be out next week as well. I would be fine if both got suspended 2 games and had to publicly apologize so we could move on. I can tell by the South Alabama message board that they want to make this a "stain" as they put it on us.
Forfeit? Is that even a thing?
There are accusations that Spurlin went back in to play after being ejected. They are hoping for a forfeiture for using an ineligible player.

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Re: So AL discussion

Unread post by AppinVA » Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:41 pm

AppStFan1 wrote:
Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:58 pm
yosef69 wrote:
Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:54 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:48 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Sun Nov 14, 2021 11:33 am
Tbatchelor1977 wrote:
Sun Nov 14, 2021 11:18 am
Interesting that there was no question in the presser regarding the incident..not even a softball question related to the incident
No reason to ask it. Coach isn’t going to answer so why waste it.
I would approach the same way as you said but that does not stop most journalists so it is very surprising nobody asked. How many times do you hear a coach say no comment in a press conference and I could tell you that 80-90% of the time they say that most of us, including the reporter, no the "no comment" response is coming.

South Alabama people are hoping this is something that gets Spurlin arrested, we have to forfeit, or something against us. People on their board want to make this into a big thing. If Spurlin did spit then he should be suspended next week and I would say that Gray should be out next week as well. I would be fine if both got suspended 2 games and had to publicly apologize so we could move on. I can tell by the South Alabama message board that they want to make this a "stain" as they put it on us.
Forfeit? Is that even a thing?
Go read the 247 USA board. Someone brought it up. I just laughed but I also laugh at some of the crazy stuff I have read some of ours say. They are truly desperate for this and some lady on Twitter is claiming she knows for a fact he did spit. So far it is a he said, he said situation so we don't know.
Last I checked women don’t play the game, so I have to question how she would know for a fact?
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Re: So AL discussion

Unread post by bigdaddyg » Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:42 pm

Why are some of you talking about him being suspended 2 or even 3 games? Good lord let this stupid thing play out. If Spurlin had flown across the field and speared a guy in the head and gotten ejected for targeting he would sit a half. Suppose it was just an overzealous play and the other guy got a concussion? Much more severe but there wouldn’t be a 2-3 game suspension. I don’t condone it IF that’s what happened but damn let it go.

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Re: So AL discussion

Unread post by AppDub » Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:48 pm

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No idea what actually occurred, but I do know that Spurlin is really good at getting under opposing players’ skin (especially before and after plays) and getting them to react. Seems like it’s happened more this year than in the past. I didn’t even see spurlin in the game on the prior play. It looked like he came right in from the sideline and immediately walked up to 52 to talk junk. Not sure if that’s completely how it transpired, but that’s how it looked. Maybe that was spurlin’s objective…get a rise out of someone and see what sort of reaction he can get.
There is no way that Caleb Spurlin spit on another player. He knows how to work the mental side of the game. I recall that #52 played for UNT last year...UNT was our bowl opponent last year. This is not the first time these two have battled it out on the field. I believe Spurlin said something to get under his skin...#52 left UNT under a cloud of WTF. UNT insiders say his departure was the best for both parties. IOW something happened at UNT that we will never know. He started 10 games. Not for lack of talent. 💁🏻‍♀️

This spitting rumor started with #52. It is what he told his coach and so his coach repeated it. #52's mama is repeating the same thing. Why? Because #52 told her that's what happened.

That DOES NOT mean it happened. I trust our super senior CAPTAIN who has never given us a moment's pause. Until Caleb Spurlin or Coach Clark says that there was spit involved - I believe in giving Caleb the benefit of the doubt.

My belief is not rooted in homerism or any other ism. For me - there are no facts to support "spitgate." If facts emerge to prove that Caleb spit on any player - I will be the first one to support whatever sanction/punishment is levied on Caleb.

I am against spitting on anyone.

And don't argue that you saw him spit on the replay because if you did - you must have a 6K tv that has not been invented yet. ESPN would have already pulled the replay and put the spit in slow motion for the Karen Von Karen and Kirk Herbstreit's of the world to call App State classless again.
Agreed

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Re: So AL discussion

Unread post by Rekdiver » Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:52 pm

No more comments until Coach says something …if anything

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Re: So AL discussion

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:33 pm

AppinVA wrote:
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No reason to ask it. Coach isn’t going to answer so why waste it.
I would approach the same way as you said but that does not stop most journalists so it is very surprising nobody asked. How many times do you hear a coach say no comment in a press conference and I could tell you that 80-90% of the time they say that most of us, including the reporter, no the "no comment" response is coming.

South Alabama people are hoping this is something that gets Spurlin arrested, we have to forfeit, or something against us. People on their board want to make this into a big thing. If Spurlin did spit then he should be suspended next week and I would say that Gray should be out next week as well. I would be fine if both got suspended 2 games and had to publicly apologize so we could move on. I can tell by the South Alabama message board that they want to make this a "stain" as they put it on us.
Forfeit? Is that even a thing?
Go read the 247 USA board. Someone brought it up. I just laughed but I also laugh at some of the crazy stuff I have read some of ours say. They are truly desperate for this and some lady on Twitter is claiming she knows for a fact he did spit. So far it is a he said, he said situation so we don't know.
Last I checked women don’t play the game, so I have to question how she would know for a fact?
Some women do at some smaller schools. Lol

She is taking their word for it. Their coach said it so to them that’s the proof. If the SBC office suspends Spurlin for spitting then there is the proof and I’ll concede he did it. I just didn’t see conclusive evidence to prove he did spit. They desperately want it to be the case though.

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Re: So AL discussion

Unread post by app97 » Sun Nov 14, 2021 9:20 pm

Mjohn1988 wrote:
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Stop with the “racial slur” thing. I was at the game and I was watching the whole interaction. Saw it from the start to the end. Spurlin was in the guys facing talking junk, to be fair he does that a lot. Before you ask, no I couldn’t here what he said but multiple SA players could have and only one reacted at all to what he said. If it had been an “awful racial slur” the other players would have had some reaction. Keep in mind as well that Spurlin has been on our team for what, 5 years now, and not a peep about him spouting racial slurs. Also note that none of the officials saw the start of the incident. They reacted to the aftermath. Until you have some hard proof stop attacking this young mans character.
Talk about an over reaction. My post was merely quoting someone from the Jag’s forum. There have been several “if this, than this” posts, but none directly “attacking this young man’s character”. Spurlin understands how to play the psychological game in order to incite reactions. It worked. The details are known only by a few people who were in that vicinity.
Exactly, the details are know by the group of guys in the vicinity and I don’t think any of them have mentioned a racial slur. So why are you spreading the rumor?
Once again for those not paying attention the first time…it was a direct quote from someone on the SA board, which may or may not substantiate anything, much like your opinions above. If you’re uncomfortable with direct quotes that may or may not be grounded in truth, you should stay away from message boards, all social media, and essentially all forms of journalism. My goal was certainly not to incite butt hurt, but it appears I did, much like Spurlin did yesterday.
I doesn’t matter if it’s a direct quote or not. What you’re spreading is by definition a rumor. And it’s potentially a very hurtful rumor. I today’s social media world rumors have a way of catching fire and becoming “truth”. Something like the rumor you’re spreading could follow this young man well past the football field. Potential employers search social media. If your in HR and you find that rumor why take a chance. Just asking you to be more responsible.
Thanks for defining what a rumor is for us. Now I understand why so many employers utilize Yosef’s Cabin and other sports forums to make decisions regarding prospective candidates….it’s so they can track down rumors about them.

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Re: So AL discussion

Unread post by app97 » Sun Nov 14, 2021 9:25 pm

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Interesting that there was no question in the presser regarding the incident..not even a softball question related to the incident
Reporters probably didn’t want to be accused of spreading a rumor, so they neglected to ask.

#spreadrumorsnotcovid

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Re: So AL discussion

Unread post by mike87 » Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:10 am

there's a replay of the incident on twitter running a loop. If he did spit, it was from a significant distance, with helmets on and a mouth guard in and would have been a very noteworthy spit. Helmet patch worthy in my opinion.

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Re: So AL discussion

Unread post by Longrifle28 » Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:13 am

We need to let this die. No way for any of us to know exactly what happened.

I'm sure Coach and the Team know and whatever happened if anything will be handled accordingly.

Moving on to Troy.
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Re: So AL discussion

Unread post by NattyBumppo'sRevenge » Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:16 am

I believe that they need to be sued for defamation. Refs need to be fined for ejecting a player without cause. #52 for S Alabamy needs to be expelled.

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Re: So AL discussion

Unread post by BeauFoster » Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:29 am

The conference should be disbanded and everyone who ever played a sport should be expelled. Won’t somebody please think of the children?!?!
Give 'em hell!

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Re: So AL discussion

Unread post by AppSt94 » Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:37 am

The two ladies claiming that it is fact that he was spat on are his relatives. One being his Aunt. They are going off what they were told by him I imagine. They see what they want to see from the video.

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Re: So AL discussion

Unread post by APPdiesel » Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:47 am

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Gray clearly threw punches so I would think he should be out this coming week for them.
If you want to call those punches…

Looked more like day 1 Tae Bo to me. The ol Billy Blanks special.
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