So AL discussion

[app97]

Interesting that there was no question in the presser regarding the incident..not even a softball question related to the incident

No reason to ask it. Coach isn’t going to answer so why waste it.

Another reason: if Spurlin actually did spit on someone, it wouldn't be surprising if there's a legal side as well. We're effectively arguing if Spurlin committed a crime or not. However, I doubt he spit at the player.

A more realistic thought: if what he said incited #52 to punch him, it was likely a flagrant unsportsmanlike (taunting) and they ejected him for it. It doesn't seem to be the vast conspiracy everyone thinks this is. It's a bunch of college players being dumb.

Didn’t look like an official was close enough to have heard what spurlin might have said.

There’s a poster on the SA board saying that there was an “awful racial slur” involved, but it’s still all hearsay to everyone other than 2 or 3 players who were in earshot.

[Rekdiver]

I doubt that our players would tolerate a racial slur from a teammate.

[AppSt94]

Interesting that there was no question in the presser regarding the incident..not even a softball question related to the incident

No reason to ask it. Coach isn’t going to answer so why waste it.

Another reason: if Spurlin actually did spit on someone, it wouldn't be surprising if there's a legal side as well. We're effectively arguing if Spurlin committed a crime or not. However, I doubt he spit at the player.

A more realistic thought: if what he said incited #52 to punch him, it was likely a flagrant unsportsmanlike (taunting) and they ejected him for it. It doesn't seem to be the vast conspiracy everyone thinks this is. It's a bunch of college players being dumb.

True. If I saw it correctly, Spurlin seemed to either point at him and touched his facemask. I feel like the refs were willing to let that go until the young man punched Spurlin. Then in discussing it, they decided to toss them both to offset the penalties.

[HighPointApp]

Just watched the replay on Roku. No way Spurlin spit on anyone.

I did as well. I agree with you.

[Mjohn1988]

Stop with the “racial slur” thing. I was at the game and I was watching the whole interaction. Saw it from the start to the end. Spurlin was in the guys facing talking junk, to be fair he does that a lot. Before you ask, no I couldn’t here what he said but multiple SA players could have and only one reacted at all to what he said. If it had been an “awful racial slur” the other players would have had some reaction. Keep in mind as well that Spurlin has been on our team for what, 5 years now, and not a peep about him spouting racial slurs. Also note that none of the officials saw the start of the incident. They reacted to the aftermath. Until you have some hard proof stop attacking this young mans character.

[app97]

Stop with the “racial slur” thing. I was at the game and I was watching the whole interaction. Saw it from the start to the end. Spurlin was in the guys facing talking junk, to be fair he does that a lot. Before you ask, no I couldn’t here what he said but multiple SA players could have and only one reacted at all to what he said. If it had been an “awful racial slur” the other players would have had some reaction. Keep in mind as well that Spurlin has been on our team for what, 5 years now, and not a peep about him spouting racial slurs. Also note that none of the officials saw the start of the incident. They reacted to the aftermath. Until you have some hard proof stop attacking this young mans character.

Talk about an over reaction. My post was merely quoting someone from the Jag’s forum. There have been several “if this, than this” posts, but none directly “attacking this young man’s character”. Spurlin understands how to play the psychological game in order to incite reactions. It worked. The details are known only by a few people who were in that vicinity.

[LoyaltoAPP]

No idea what actually occurred, but I do know that Spurlin is really good at getting under opposing players’ skin (especially before and after plays) and getting them to react. Seems like it’s happened more this year than in the past. I didn’t even see spurlin in the game on the prior play. It looked like he came right in from the sideline and immediately walked up to 52 to talk junk. Not sure if that’s completely how it transpired, but that’s how it looked. Maybe that was spurlin’s objective…get a rise out of someone and see what sort of reaction he can get.

There is no way that Caleb Spurlin spit on another player. He knows how to work the mental side of the game. I recall that #52 played for UNT last year...UNT was our bowl opponent last year. This is not the first time these two have battled it out on the field. I believe Spurlin said something to get under his skin...#52 left UNT under a cloud of WTF. UNT insiders say his departure was the best for both parties. IOW something happened at UNT that we will never know. He started 10 games. Not for lack of talent. ‍♀️

This spitting rumor started with #52. It is what he told his coach and so his coach repeated it. #52's mama is repeating the same thing. Why? Because #52 told her that's what happened.

That DOES NOT mean it happened. I trust our super senior CAPTAIN who has never given us a moment's pause. Until Caleb Spurlin or Coach Clark says that there was spit involved - I believe in giving Caleb the benefit of the doubt.

My belief is not rooted in homerism or any other ism. For me - there are no facts to support "spitgate." If facts emerge to prove that Caleb spit on any player - I will be the first one to support whatever sanction/punishment is levied on Caleb.

I am against spitting on anyone.

And don't argue that you saw him spit on the replay because if you did - you must have a 6K tv that has not been invented yet. ESPN would have already pulled the replay and put the spit in slow motion for the Karen Von Karen and Kirk Herbstreit's of the world to call App State classless again.

[Mjohn1988]

Stop with the “racial slur” thing. I was at the game and I was watching the whole interaction. Saw it from the start to the end. Spurlin was in the guys facing talking junk, to be fair he does that a lot. Before you ask, no I couldn’t here what he said but multiple SA players could have and only one reacted at all to what he said. If it had been an “awful racial slur” the other players would have had some reaction. Keep in mind as well that Spurlin has been on our team for what, 5 years now, and not a peep about him spouting racial slurs. Also note that none of the officials saw the start of the incident. They reacted to the aftermath. Until you have some hard proof stop attacking this young mans character.

Talk about an over reaction. My post was merely quoting someone from the Jag’s forum. There have been several “if this, than this” posts, but none directly “attacking this young man’s character”. Spurlin understands how to play the psychological game in order to incite reactions. It worked. The details are known only by a few people who were in that vicinity.

Exactly, the details are know by the group of guys in the vicinity and I don’t think any of them have mentioned a racial slur. So why are you spreading the rumor?

[AppNC]

Did anyone else notice that Spurlin played a play after the ejection? The ref saw him in and stopped the action to get him off? I’m not sure App staff or Spurlin realized he’d been ejected.
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He did not participate in a play but went onto the field not realizing he had been ejected.

[app97]

Stop with the “racial slur” thing. I was at the game and I was watching the whole interaction. Saw it from the start to the end. Spurlin was in the guys facing talking junk, to be fair he does that a lot. Before you ask, no I couldn’t here what he said but multiple SA players could have and only one reacted at all to what he said. If it had been an “awful racial slur” the other players would have had some reaction. Keep in mind as well that Spurlin has been on our team for what, 5 years now, and not a peep about him spouting racial slurs. Also note that none of the officials saw the start of the incident. They reacted to the aftermath. Until you have some hard proof stop attacking this young mans character.

Talk about an over reaction. My post was merely quoting someone from the Jag’s forum. There have been several “if this, than this” posts, but none directly “attacking this young man’s character”. Spurlin understands how to play the psychological game in order to incite reactions. It worked. The details are known only by a few people who were in that vicinity.

Exactly, the details are know by the group of guys in the vicinity and I don’t think any of them have mentioned a racial slur. So why are you spreading the rumor?

Once again for those not paying attention the first time…it was a direct quote from someone on the SA board, which may or may not substantiate anything, much like your opinions above. If you’re uncomfortable with direct quotes that may or may not be grounded in truth, you should stay away from message boards, all social media, and essentially all forms of journalism. My goal was certainly not to incite butt hurt, but it appears I did, much like Spurlin did yesterday.

[Rekdiver]

Stop with the “racial slur” thing. I was at the game and I was watching the whole interaction. Saw it from the start to the end. Spurlin was in the guys facing talking junk, to be fair he does that a lot. Before you ask, no I couldn’t here what he said but multiple SA players could have and only one reacted at all to what he said. If it had been an “awful racial slur” the other players would have had some reaction. Keep in mind as well that Spurlin has been on our team for what, 5 years now, and not a peep about him spouting racial slurs. Also note that none of the officials saw the start of the incident. They reacted to the aftermath. Until you have some hard proof stop attacking this young mans character.

Talk about an over reaction. My post was merely quoting someone from the Jag’s forum. There have been several “if this, than this” posts, but none directly “attacking this young man’s character”. Spurlin understands how to play the psychological game in order to incite reactions. It worked. The details are known only by a few people who were in that vicinity.

Exactly, the details are know by the group of guys in the vicinity and I don’t think any of them have mentioned a racial slur. So why are you spreading the rumor?

Two things here…
Informing us that someone on a USA board is saying this is not spreading a rumor.
Secondly as said if our players heard it or their players heard it there would have been more of a reaction.
As I said…Coach will address it if it needs addressing.

[Cro-Magnon App]

Everything’s good. Let’s all relax. Now, I ask again, how long does he have to sit out?

[app97]

I forgot about the bowl game incident at the end of the game last year, where a UNT player shoved one of our guys when the game was clearly in hand. I wonder if 52 for USA was involved in that. We might have been on offense and taking a knee at that point though. In that case, that player wouldn’t have been on the field.

[Mjohn1988]

Stop with the “racial slur” thing. I was at the game and I was watching the whole interaction. Saw it from the start to the end. Spurlin was in the guys facing talking junk, to be fair he does that a lot. Before you ask, no I couldn’t here what he said but multiple SA players could have and only one reacted at all to what he said. If it had been an “awful racial slur” the other players would have had some reaction. Keep in mind as well that Spurlin has been on our team for what, 5 years now, and not a peep about him spouting racial slurs. Also note that none of the officials saw the start of the incident. They reacted to the aftermath. Until you have some hard proof stop attacking this young mans character.

Talk about an over reaction. My post was merely quoting someone from the Jag’s forum. There have been several “if this, than this” posts, but none directly “attacking this young man’s character”. Spurlin understands how to play the psychological game in order to incite reactions. It worked. The details are known only by a few people who were in that vicinity.

Exactly, the details are know by the group of guys in the vicinity and I don’t think any of them have mentioned a racial slur. So why are you spreading the rumor?

Two things here…
Informing us that someone on a USA board is saying this is not spreading a rumor.
Secondly as said if our players heard it or their players heard it there would have been more of a reaction.
As I said…Coach will address it if it needs addressing.

Check out Webster Rek, it’s the definition of spreading a rumor.

[Mjohn1988]

Stop with the “racial slur” thing. I was at the game and I was watching the whole interaction. Saw it from the start to the end. Spurlin was in the guys facing talking junk, to be fair he does that a lot. Before you ask, no I couldn’t here what he said but multiple SA players could have and only one reacted at all to what he said. If it had been an “awful racial slur” the other players would have had some reaction. Keep in mind as well that Spurlin has been on our team for what, 5 years now, and not a peep about him spouting racial slurs. Also note that none of the officials saw the start of the incident. They reacted to the aftermath. Until you have some hard proof stop attacking this young mans character.

Talk about an over reaction. My post was merely quoting someone from the Jag’s forum. There have been several “if this, than this” posts, but none directly “attacking this young man’s character”. Spurlin understands how to play the psychological game in order to incite reactions. It worked. The details are known only by a few people who were in that vicinity.

Exactly, the details are know by the group of guys in the vicinity and I don’t think any of them have mentioned a racial slur. So why are you spreading the rumor?

Once again for those not paying attention the first time…it was a direct quote from someone on the SA board, which may or may not substantiate anything, much like your opinions above. If you’re uncomfortable with direct quotes that may or may not be grounded in truth, you should stay away from message boards, all social media, and essentially all forms of journalism. My goal was certainly not to incite butt hurt, but it appears I did, much like Spurlin did yesterday.

I doesn’t matter if it’s a direct quote or not. What you’re spreading is by definition a rumor. And it’s potentially a very hurtful rumor. I today’s social media world rumors have a way of catching fire and becoming “truth”. Something like the rumor you’re spreading could follow this young man well past the football field. Potential employers search social media. If your in HR and you find that rumor why take a chance. Just asking you to be more responsible.

[BeauFoster]

I can write anything I want on a message board. I heard 52 said Spurlin’s mom is a snow blower. Apparently that’s now considered canon.

[Rekdiver]

Stop with the “racial slur” thing. I was at the game and I was watching the whole interaction. Saw it from the start to the end. Spurlin was in the guys facing talking junk, to be fair he does that a lot. Before you ask, no I couldn’t here what he said but multiple SA players could have and only one reacted at all to what he said. If it had been an “awful racial slur” the other players would have had some reaction. Keep in mind as well that Spurlin has been on our team for what, 5 years now, and not a peep about him spouting racial slurs. Also note that none of the officials saw the start of the incident. They reacted to the aftermath. Until you have some hard proof stop attacking this young mans character.

Talk about an over reaction. My post was merely quoting someone from the Jag’s forum. There have been several “if this, than this” posts, but none directly “attacking this young man’s character”. Spurlin understands how to play the psychological game in order to incite reactions. It worked. The details are known only by a few people who were in that vicinity.

Exactly, the details are know by the group of guys in the vicinity and I don’t think any of them have mentioned a racial slur. So why are you spreading the rumor?

Once again for those not paying attention the first time…it was a direct quote from someone on the SA board, which may or may not substantiate anything, much like your opinions above. If you’re uncomfortable with direct quotes that may or may not be grounded in truth, you should stay away from message boards, all social media, and essentially all forms of journalism. My goal was certainly not to incite butt hurt, but it appears I did, much like Spurlin did yesterday.

I doesn’t matter if it’s a direct quote or not. What you’re spreading is by definition a rumor. And it’s potentially a very hurtful rumor. I today’s social media world rumors have a way of catching fire and becoming “truth”. Something like the rumor you’re spreading could follow this young man well past the football field. Potential employers search social media. If your in HR and you find that rumor why take a chance. Just asking you to be more responsible.

This site isn’t Twitter or Facebook….And if anyone in HR is dumb enough to take the acknowledgment of an unfounded sports blog comment….I don’t see us dispelling it irresponsible.

[AppStFan1]

Interesting that there was no question in the presser regarding the incident..not even a softball question related to the incident

No reason to ask it. Coach isn’t going to answer so why waste it.

I would personally approach it that way if I'm a journalist in that room but we frequently see questions asked that you know the coach will say "no comment" so I am surprised someone did not ask in this game.

South Alabama people are hoping this is something that gets Spurlin arrested, we have to forfeit, or something major is done against us. If Spurlin spit then he should be suspended next week then both should be. Gray should be easily regardless because you can't just go off like he did. We do need to see actual proof it was indeed spitting.

[yosef69]

Interesting that there was no question in the presser regarding the incident..not even a softball question related to the incident

No reason to ask it. Coach isn’t going to answer so why waste it.

I would approach the same way as you said but that does not stop most journalists so it is very surprising nobody asked. How many times do you hear a coach say no comment in a press conference and I could tell you that 80-90% of the time they say that most of us, including the reporter, no the "no comment" response is coming.

South Alabama people are hoping this is something that gets Spurlin arrested, we have to forfeit, or something against us. People on their board want to make this into a big thing. If Spurlin did spit then he should be suspended next week and I would say that Gray should be out next week as well. I would be fine if both got suspended 2 games and had to publicly apologize so we could move on. I can tell by the South Alabama message board that they want to make this a "stain" as they put it on us.

Forfeit? Is that even a thing?

[AppNC]

I can write anything I want on a message board. I heard 52 said Spurlin’s mom is a snow blower. Apparently that’s now considered canon.