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Wofford Bit By Injuries Too

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Re: Wofford Bit By Injuries Too

Unread post by Appsolutely » Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:53 am

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WataugaMan wrote:Wofford offered him a scholarship and we didn't, I can't blame the man for taking the scholarship offer. I wish him well, until Wofford plays App that is.
I thought the reason was we wanted him to play S and he wanted to play RB? ---
Corey Lynch told me the running back story was inaccurate. We didn't offer him, and he went with the school that did. Anybody on this board, coach or not, who thinks that we could not have worked that kid into our offense, defense, special teams, whatever...is a moron. Michael Frazier at running back and on special teams, and we couldn't have used EB? And anybody who thinks Chisholm (and I like Chisholm) is faster or stronger than EB is living in an alternate universe.

We screwed the pooch by not offering this young man a scholarship.
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Re: Wofford Bit By Injuries Too

Unread post by biggie » Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:12 am

From JM interviews, seems we were going to offer but EB had already decided on Woff at the time.

There's articles/audio of some of that around somewhere, much less being discussed hundreds of times on the old board.

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Re: Wofford Bit By Injuries Too

Unread post by moonshine » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:26 am

Appsolutely wrote:And anybody who thinks Chisholm (and I like Chisholm) is faster or stronger than EB is living in an alternate universe.

Consider me in an alternate universe. I think RC is faster than EB. Not saying Chisholm is a better RB but definitely think he'd beat EB in a foot race and I'd bet my house on it. Rod would be a tailback/slot back in the Wofford offense, while EB is better suited to play the fullback position.

I agree ASU could have found a place to play EB but I think he would have been a LB/TE for App. I think he made the best decision to play at Wofford as their offense suits his skill set perfectly.
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Unread post by Appsolutely » Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:56 pm

moonshine wrote:
Appsolutely wrote:And anybody who thinks Chisholm (and I like Chisholm) is faster or stronger than EB is living in an alternate universe.

Consider me in an alternate universe. I think RC is faster than EB. Not saying Chisholm is a better RB but definitely think he'd beat EB in a foot race and I'd bet my house on it. Rod would be a tailback/slot back in the Wofford offense, while EB is better suited to play the fullback position.

I agree ASU could have found a place to play EB but I think he would have been a LB/TE for App. I think he made the best decision to play at Wofford as their offense suits his skill set perfectly.
Maybe Chisholm is faster than EB, but you said everything that needed to be said when you indicated that Chisholm is not a better running back. I think you are right, and that alone should indicate that we could have used EB, either at RB, or somewhere else. So he wanted to play running back. It's not like we haven't recruited a kid, given him a chance to play what he wants to play, and then moved him to another position later. In fact, I'd say our coaching staff has the corner market on that kind of thing (Frazier and Presley being the most recent examples). Somebody on the staff got his panties in a wad when Penn State was recruiting EB and he had no interest in App. To avoid being accused of disloyalty, insubordination, etc., I will not indicate who that was.

Contrary to the spin I have seen on this and other boards, it was not EB's desire to play RB that sealed the deal. That sounds good, but it's just not accurate. EB is the kind of kid that Jerry Moore drools over. Smart, good citizen, works hard, plays hard...bet we could have used him in that 2-back set that everybody seems to like but that we never see very much.

Look, I know perfectly well that recruiting can be a guessing game sometimes. But the spin about EB not coming to App because he would only play RB is BS.
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Re: Wofford Bit By Injuries Too

Unread post by App91 » Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:46 pm

I Think you are a little off base here. EB is a great player but simply does not fit into this system as a RB. We don't block the FB dive, our backs do more out of the backfield. We don't have the misdirection required from him to get off. He does not make people miss, just have more than one to bring him down. Would not work in the zone read. Kid is outstanding but not a spread runner.

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Unread post by WVAPPeer » Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:05 pm

App91 wrote:I Think you are a little off base here. EB is a great player but simply does not fit into this system as a RB. We don't block the FB dive, our backs do more out of the backfield. We don't have the misdirection required from him to get off. He does not make people miss, just have more than one to bring him down. Would not work in the zone read. Kid is outstanding but not a spread runner.
the idea that he wanted to play RB and didn't want him there is something I read on this board - it is not based on personal info from me - I don't know him and have never spoken with him - I'm not claiming any knowledge on this subject -

I do agree that we could probably have found a place for him to be successful here at ASU - I have to agree with the above that he is not a spread option RB - he is a FB - he lines up 2-3 yards behind the ball not 8 yards - Scott Riddle was a very good QB - broke all passing records, had a strong arm, somewhat mobile and was smart BUT he was not a spread option QB - similar comparison in my mind ---
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Unread post by Appsolutely » Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:25 pm

App91 wrote:I Think you are a little off base here. EB is a great player but simply does not fit into this system as a RB. We don't block the FB dive, our backs do more out of the backfield. We don't have the misdirection required from him to get off. He does not make people miss, just have more than one to bring him down. Would not work in the zone read. Kid is outstanding but not a spread runner.
I appreciate your opinion. I'll just say this: if EB was on our team, he'd be starting Saturday, although not necessarily at running back...and probably would have started for the past three years. And yes, I know opinions are like GSU fans...I mean, a-holes.
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Unread post by T-Dog » Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:33 pm

I should have put money down on the odds of a "Why didn't ASU recruit EB" debate starting this week. It's happened every Wofford game week for the last five years.

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Unread post by Gonzo » Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:51 pm



The Czar picking App

*Not sure why it's not embedding. The code looks right to me...

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Re: Wofford Bit By Injuries Too

Unread post by AppinATL » Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:50 pm

WataugaMan wrote:Wofford offered him a scholarship and we didn't, I can't blame the man for taking the scholarship offer. I wish him well, until Wofford plays App that is.

I agree. I have no problem with his decision, although why anyone would choose to play at Wofford over ASU is a mystery to me. No doubt he would have earned a scholarship here in short order if he had walked on as have so many before and since him. But again, it's his choice. Having said that, he is a player for an opposing team, so the heck with him. I'll be completely happy if I get to watch him ride the pine this weekend. As an opposing weapon, I can respect his talents, but I don't have to pull for him and I won't. I'll be glad to see his back as he heads back out of town for the last time to Spartanburg.

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Unread post by T-Dog » Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:52 pm

Gonzo wrote:


The Czar picking App

*Not sure why it's not embedding. The code looks right to me...
Delete everything before and including the "=". I had to learn that when writing my articles.
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Unread post by AppinATL » Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:53 pm

"We screwed the pooch by not offering this young man a scholarship."

He was made for us, if you think about it. Just think of how the committee would have loved to have him getting the ball on all those runs up the middle the last couple of years!

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Re: Wofford Bit By Injuries Too

Unread post by AppAttack » Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:25 pm

Appsolutely wrote:
WVAPPeer wrote:
WataugaMan wrote:Wofford offered him a scholarship and we didn't, I can't blame the man for taking the scholarship offer. I wish him well, until Wofford plays App that is.
I thought the reason was we wanted him to play S and he wanted to play RB? ---
Corey Lynch told me the running back story was inaccurate. We didn't offer him, and he went with the school that did. Anybody on this board, coach or not, who thinks that we could not have worked that kid into our offense, defense, special teams, whatever...is a moron. Michael Frazier at running back and on special teams, and we couldn't have used EB? And anybody who thinks Chisholm (and I like Chisholm) is faster or stronger than EB is living in an alternate universe.

We screwed the pooch by not offering this young man a scholarship.
LOL, I could outrun EB carrying Chisholm on my back.

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Unread post by ASU-FTW » Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:22 pm

I guess I don't care whether we offered him or not. Nor do I care that he isn't on our team. Woulda coulda shoulda...it's pointless really. It's been water under the bridge for years now.

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Re: Wofford Bit By Injuries Too

Unread post by Appsolutely » Wed Oct 17, 2012 7:57 am

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Appsolutely wrote:
WVAPPeer wrote:
WataugaMan wrote:Wofford offered him a scholarship and we didn't, I can't blame the man for taking the scholarship offer. I wish him well, until Wofford plays App that is.
I thought the reason was we wanted him to play S and he wanted to play RB? ---
Corey Lynch told me the running back story was inaccurate. We didn't offer him, and he went with the school that did. Anybody on this board, coach or not, who thinks that we could not have worked that kid into our offense, defense, special teams, whatever...is a moron. Michael Frazier at running back and on special teams, and we couldn't have used EB? And anybody who thinks Chisholm (and I like Chisholm) is faster or stronger than EB is living in an alternate universe.

We screwed the pooch by not offering this young man a scholarship.
LOL, I could outrun EB carrying Chisholm on my back.
Now that, I would pay good money to see.
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Re: Wofford Bit By Injuries Too

Unread post by SpeedkingATL » Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:04 am

It appears to me that EB made the right decision to attend Wofford. He will likely leave there with many school records and I can't say for certain but I doubt that would have been the case had he attended App.

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Unread post by moehler » Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:41 am

with all the records he is setting at Wofford, I highly doubt he has any regrets about going there, and with all the championships we have won without him, I highly doubt Moore has any regrets about not giving him a schlorship.

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Re: Wofford Bit By Injuries Too

Unread post by WataugaMan » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:03 pm

ASU-FTW wrote:I guess I don't care whether we offered him or not. Nor do I care that he isn't on our team. Woulda coulda shoulda...it's pointless really. It's been water under the bridge for years now.
I guess it is somewhat hard to understand why some are making such a big deal about one man. However, like many men who grew up in Watauga County he is one hell of a stud! I guess I can see why some are so concerned. :lol:

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