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Re: Satt already in the P5 conversation

Unread post by luvyosef » Sun Nov 15, 2015 10:33 am

WVAppsfan wrote:By the way, the non relevant RR and his Wildcats upset the Utes from Utah.
Yep yep yep. Rich Rod is far from irrelevant and Columbia, SC would be lucky to land him.
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luvyosef wrote:
WVAppsfan wrote:By the way, the non relevant RR and his Wildcats upset the Utes from Utah.
Yep yep yep. Rich Rod is far from irrelevant and Columbia, SC would be lucky to land him.
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Unread post by Yosef10 » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:59 pm

moehler wrote:look, you can have this "love fest" for Richy all you want, personally, I think their are 3 or 4 better coaches out there who would do a better job, but hey, that's just my opinion. For what ever reason, some of you seem to be taking my opinion personal, why, I have no frecking idea, the guy means nothing to App, this is just a discussion on a mountaineer message board about someone who will have absolutely no bearing on the future of App football, just calm down, didn't mean to upset some of you Richy groupies.
Lol I was just trying to have a discussion and enlighten you on the subject in which you were commenting on. But I see you'd rather not know what youre talking about and call people rich rod groupies

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Unread post by bigdaddyg » Mon Nov 16, 2015 9:01 am

Amazing how a legit thread goes WAY off of topic. I had no idea that there are this many teenage girls on this board. At any rate what would it take for Satt to leave? How much would the lowest P5 job available pay him to leave App? What realistic job will be available that we could even hypothetically see him jump to? In my mind there are coaching jobs out there that are just great gigs- some that are so good that even money can't lure the coach away. I think that Satt has the potential to keep this program at a highly competitive level for years to come. I'm sure that if he stays 20 years there might be the occassional 6-6 year along with the possible 11-1 or 12-0 unbelievable year. Is that enough for him?

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Unread post by Yosef10 » Mon Nov 16, 2015 10:32 am

bigdaddyg wrote:Amazing how a legit thread goes WAY off of topic. I had no idea that there are this many teenage girls on this board. At any rate what would it take for Satt to leave? How much would the lowest P5 job available pay him to leave App? What realistic job will be available that we could even hypothetically see him jump to? In my mind there are coaching jobs out there that are just great gigs- some that are so good that even money can't lure the coach away. I think that Satt has the potential to keep this program at a highly competitive level for years to come. I'm sure that if he stays 20 years there might be the occassional 6-6 year along with the possible 11-1 or 12-0 unbelievable year. Is that enough for him?
Debatable if this is a "legit" thread and it's a message board, things tend to happen. no job is opening this year that he would be ready to take. He has a 4-8, 7-5 and whatever we finish at this year on his resume, that's not taking any ADs breath away. A couple sustained years of 9-3 and better then he might be in the conversation for a job he would actually consider leaving for.

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Unread post by EastHallApp » Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:45 am

bigdaddyg wrote:Amazing how a legit thread goes WAY off of topic. I had no idea that there are this many teenage girls on this board. At any rate what would it take for Satt to leave? How much would the lowest P5 job available pay him to leave App? What realistic job will be available that we could even hypothetically see him jump to? In my mind there are coaching jobs out there that are just great gigs- some that are so good that even money can't lure the coach away. I think that Satt has the potential to keep this program at a highly competitive level for years to come. I'm sure that if he stays 20 years there might be the occassional 6-6 year along with the possible 11-1 or 12-0 unbelievable year. Is that enough for him?
Anyone on this board who claims to know what it would take for Satt to leave is just guessing or projecting their own thoughts.

All but a handful of P5 coaches make $2 million and up per year.

As far as job openings this year where he could conceivably be a candidate and/or be interested, again, we can't do much besides speculate there. All it takes is one AD to think slightly outside the box. Tennessee hired Derek Dooley when he was 17-20 at La. Tech and coming off a 4-8 season. Plus, we don't know what other jobs will open up as the top-of-the ladder jobs fill.

Remember, not everybody gets their first choice. Most P5 schools start with one or more big names that are their dream candidates, then settle into reality once those don't work out.

I had some concern Miami might be interested, but it sounds like they're targeting people who have coached or played there before. South Carolina would be a long shot, but not unthinkable. Same for UVa/VT.

Missouri might not be a good fit geographically, but if Satt really wants to pursue a P5 job, I'm sure Gillin would put in a good word for him.

The more realistic threat might be a high-end G5 opening like UCF or Memphis, either of which could offer in the $1.5 million range.

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Unread post by eggers76 » Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:30 pm

I really don't think he would want Memphis, but that is just my opinion.

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Unread post by moehler » Mon Nov 16, 2015 1:36 pm

if we are to believe Satt, that being close to the grandparents, and seeing them on a regular basis is very important to him and his wife, then I cant see him, at this time, leaving for Memphis, but, if the Virginia position comes open, now, that's one to worry about. If he got the Virginia job, he would have the best of both worlds, ACC, wonderful University, million dollar salary, and he would have a very manageable drive to the grandparents in North Carolina.

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Unread post by appst89 » Mon Nov 16, 2015 8:36 pm

VT friend told me today that Fuente is reported to be the guy in Blacksburg.

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Unread post by AppfaninCAALand » Wed Nov 18, 2015 9:52 am

EastHallApp wrote: Whether South Carolina is a better job than Arizona right now, I'm not sure. That might depend on where he'd rather live. He does have some fairly significant financial incentives to stay at UA long term.
I was out in Tucson for work a few weeks back. It's a nice town, especially if you enjoy the outdoorsy desert lifestyle. I'd say it's a nicer place to live than Columbia, SC even with my southeastern bias.

It is kind of a dumpy and somewhat depressed frontier town, but sits at the foot of a 12,000 ft mountain with a ski slope up top. In the winter, you can swim in 75 degree weather all day and then drive up for a little evening skiing! Great Mexican food too!

If you're a football coach whose doesn't have time for that sort of thing, I could see choosing SC over AZ.

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Unread post by Saint3333 » Wed Nov 18, 2015 10:59 am

I'd look for Fritz at GS to had back near the Texas area after this season after everything shakes out. Time to capitalize on recruiting this offseason to stay ahead of them.

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Unread post by MtnDevil95 » Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:18 am

Does anyone have a list of the P5 schools looking for a new coach?
Maryland
VaTech
UVa
USCarolina
USCalifornia
Miami
Missouri
Illinois
???
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Unread post by appchicago » Fri Nov 20, 2015 10:56 am

Did Mike London get fired at UVa? I hadn't heard, though I know his seat is pretty hot.

You've got the rest. Minnesota hired Cleays, the interim, and UCF, Hawaii, ULM and North Texas are looking but are, of course, G5.

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Unread post by MtnDevil95 » Fri Nov 20, 2015 11:09 am

I may have jumped the gun on UVa, that spot may not yet be open.
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Unread post by asu66 » Fri Nov 20, 2015 11:35 am

Scott has to win some hardware for the trophy shelves before he's a P5 HC target. He could be an immediate target for a P5 OC position and a bigger pay check--but I don't perceive that to be his "interest" any more. He's a winning head coach at a reputable institution and I believe he plans to maintain that profile.
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Unread post by appchicago » Fri Nov 20, 2015 11:55 am

And just to be clear, I think Satt's inclusion on this list is totally an attempt to avoid writing the exact same Herman-Fuente-Smart list as everyone else. It's nice that when trying to come up with promising young G5 coaches, Satt made the list, but I think that was just a bit of reaching on the author's part to differentiate his list from everyone else's.

To paraphrase Jack Black's character in High Fidelity: "Kind of a new coach. Very nice. A sly declaration of new classic status slipped into a list of old safe ones."

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Unread post by bigdaddyg » Fri Nov 20, 2015 12:39 pm

It is amazing how the money these guys get becomes like Monopoly money. There has to exist the possibility that half a mil a year living in Boone would be enough for some guys. Maybe Satt really likes living and working where he is and might be content to just be the coach for App for years to come. I know that might naive but one has to consider that as a possibility.

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Unread post by moehler » Fri Nov 20, 2015 12:56 pm

on the SBC board there is a current debate between App, GS, and Ark St, fans about SS loyalty to App. GS, Ark St fans are convinced he will leave the first chance he gets, while App fans are saying he will eventually leave, but only for certain hc jobs. Of course Ark State has had 4 hc in the last 4 years, and GS fans are coming to the realization that Fritz is leaving the first chance he gets, so you can understand their negative attitude, plus maybe alittle jealously that we might have a coach who will hang around for longer than a couple of years. As far as openings that worry me, Virginia would be at the top of the list if they fire the current coach.

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Unread post by EastHallApp » Fri Nov 20, 2015 1:23 pm

moehler wrote:on the SBC board there is a current debate between App, GS, and Ark St, fans about SS loyalty to App. GS, Ark St fans are convinced he will leave the first chance he gets, while App fans are saying he will eventually leave, but only for certain hc jobs. Of course Ark State has had 4 hc in the last 4 years, and GS fans are coming to the realization that Fritz is leaving the first chance he gets, so you can understand their negative attitude, plus maybe alittle jealously that we might have a coach who will hang around for longer than a couple of years. As far as openings that worry me, Virginia would be at the top of the list if they fire the current coach.
Have never been to this SBC board, but I'd bet there's about a 99% chance no one posting on that thread actually has any idea what Satt's plans are or what it would take to get him to leave.

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Unread post by moehler » Fri Nov 20, 2015 2:35 pm

true, App fans who are debating them, myself included, are taking the word of SS that him and his family, at this moment are very happy in Boone, that being close to grandparents is very important, and it would take a special job for him to leave. GS and Ark St fans are calling bull@#$%, that he is just giving us lip service. I guess we shall see.

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