Football Scoop: Coach Blalock not returning/Jones not DC

[ASUMountaineer]

Ha, was just about to post this myself! Best case scenario would be to keep Jones on as LB coach and bring in an experienced DC. Not sure how happy he would be about the demotion but he is an excellent position coach. Happy to see that SS is acting swiftly.

Pride can be a funny thing, but so can a paycheck. If we keep his salary where it is (which I think we should), he'd be getting paid the same amount for doing less work and having less responsibility. Unless a better job/better pay comes along, he might just take that option. There are worse things than getting paid the same to do less.

Why do you think we should keep his salary the same? If you underperform at work and they cut your hours/demote you, would you honestly expect to maintain the same level of pay? If so, can I get an application?

To answer your first question, if I had a contract in place then I would expect to maintain the same level of pay.

To answer your second question, no you can not get an application.

GlassOnion nailed it. He has a contract in place, and his salary is pretty darn low for a position coach at the FBS level (yes, I'm aware we are currently FCS). The point of my post, which you didn't address, was that DJ may take that option--if Football Scoop is correct, then he has taken that option.

[GlassOnion]

GlassOnion nailed it.

Not so loud man...

[wiseasheapp]

Coach Blalock was simply the collateral damage resulting from the demotion of Jones. without a contract, which he had tried to get for a year, he was the sacrificial lamb of a plan put in place by Cobb in 2011. I sincerely hope he lands on his feet at a football program who will appreciate his abilities. If that is WCU then I will become what I never thought possible, a catamount fan.

[Yosef84]

Ha, was just about to post this myself! Best case scenario would be to keep Jones on as LB coach and bring in an experienced DC. Not sure how happy he would be about the demotion but he is an excellent position coach. Happy to see that SS is acting swiftly.

Pride can be a funny thing, but so can a paycheck. If we keep his salary where it is (which I think we should), he'd be getting paid the same amount for doing less work and having less responsibility. Unless a better job/better pay comes along, he might just take that option. There are worse things than getting paid the same to do less.

Why do you think we should keep his salary the same? If you underperform at work and they cut your hours/demote you, would you honestly expect to maintain the same level of pay? If so, can I get an application?

It's called a contract. Probably don't have a choice. Pay decreases are pretty rare these days anyway...at least on an individual basis. They would generally be interpreted as effectively firing an employee, and would create considerable risk for a contract employee.

[bcoach]

Ha, was just about to post this myself! Best case scenario would be to keep Jones on as LB coach and bring in an experienced DC. Not sure how happy he would be about the demotion but he is an excellent position coach. Happy to see that SS is acting swiftly.

Pride can be a funny thing, but so can a paycheck. If we keep his salary where it is (which I think we should), he'd be getting paid the same amount for doing less work and having less responsibility. Unless a better job/better pay comes along, he might just take that option. There are worse things than getting paid the same to do less.

Why do you think we should keep his salary the same? If you underperform at work and they cut your hours/demote you, would you honestly expect to maintain the same level of pay? If so, can I get an application?

It's called a contract. Probably don't have a choice. Pay decreases are pretty rare these days anyway...at least on an individual basis. They would generally be interpreted as effectively firing an employee, and would create considerable risk for a contract employee.

Yes he does have a contract but we don't know what it says. The pay may be tied to the job. If he is no longer the DC he may not be entitled to the same pay.

[AtlAppMan]

A new DC can have a year to evaluate DJ at position coach role and will no doubt have an opinion next year as well.

Ss looks like he is willing to make the necessary assessments and adjustments both on the field and off the field.

This was perfect time to make a move on DC. SS had plenty of actionable evidence to support his decision.

[ASUMountaineer]

Ha, was just about to post this myself! Best case scenario would be to keep Jones on as LB coach and bring in an experienced DC. Not sure how happy he would be about the demotion but he is an excellent position coach. Happy to see that SS is acting swiftly.

Pride can be a funny thing, but so can a paycheck. If we keep his salary where it is (which I think we should), he'd be getting paid the same amount for doing less work and having less responsibility. Unless a better job/better pay comes along, he might just take that option. There are worse things than getting paid the same to do less.

Why do you think we should keep his salary the same? If you underperform at work and they cut your hours/demote you, would you honestly expect to maintain the same level of pay? If so, can I get an application?

It's called a contract. Probably don't have a choice. Pay decreases are pretty rare these days anyway...at least on an individual basis. They would generally be interpreted as effectively firing an employee, and would create considerable risk for a contract employee.

Yes he does have a contract but we don't know what it says. The pay may be tied to the job. If he is no longer the DC he may not be entitled to the same pay.

You're right, we don't know. However, we're assuming that he is willing to give up his DC position and take a lower position based on the report. It's potentially cheaper to just let him keep the same pay then writing a new contract and getting it approved all for one season. It may not be worth the trouble to jump through those hoops for one year.

You still haven't addressed the main point of my post that you responded to. Any thoughts or are you looking to beat that passing comment into the ground?

[ASU-FTW]

Coach Blalock was simply the collateral damage resulting from the demotion of Jones. without a contract, which he had tried to get for a year, he was the sacrificial lamb of a plan put in place by Cobb in 2011. I sincerely hope he lands on his feet at a football program who will appreciate his abilities. If that is WCU then I will become what I never thought possible, a catamount fan.

Seriously? Do you have a man crush on coach Blalock or something? Our entire defense, including the defensive line, which Blalock coached, did not perform well. QBs had all day to throw on us.

If he lands at WCU, then I will admit they got another second rate coach, just like Brad Glenn and most of the others that jumped ship.

[wiseasheapp]

Do you even know coach Blalock? Whatever problems the D line had this year were due to suspensions and injuries, not the D line coaching. Get the facts before calling me out for supporting a damn good coach.

[StorminASU]

Ha, was just about to post this myself! Best case scenario would be to keep Jones on as LB coach and bring in an experienced DC. Not sure how happy he would be about the demotion but he is an excellent position coach. Happy to see that SS is acting swiftly.

Pride can be a funny thing, but so can a paycheck. If we keep his salary where it is (which I think we should), he'd be getting paid the same amount for doing less work and having less responsibility. Unless a better job/better pay comes along, he might just take that option. There are worse things than getting paid the same to do less.

Why do you think we should keep his salary the same? If you underperform at work and they cut your hours/demote you, would you honestly expect to maintain the same level of pay? If so, can I get an application?

To answer your first question, if I had a contract in place then I would expect to maintain the same level of pay.

To answer your second question, no you can not get an application.

GlassOnion nailed it. He has a contract in place, and his salary is pretty darn low for a position coach at the FBS level (yes, I'm aware we are currently FCS). The point of my post, which you didn't address, was that DJ may take that option--if Football Scoop is correct, then he has taken that option.

I had already thought about the contractual argument for pay staying the same, which made me read, evidently inappropriately, that YOU think we should maintain his pay, and not a fact that you think we should maintain his pay...because it's a contract. The way you phrased it could be read both ways and I chose incorrectly.

[StorminASU]

Do you even know coach Blalock? Whatever problems the D line had this year were due to suspensions and injuries, not the D line coaching. Get the facts before calling me out for supporting a damn good coach.

On Saturday's in fall, do you wear a black jersey with #34 on the back? Are you guys secretly related and that's how you kept your spot all year?

[ASUMountaineer]

Man, a lot of testiness on the MMB the past few days. Can't we all just get along?

[Gonzo]

Man, a lot of testiness on the MMB the past few days. Can't we all just get along?

SHUT UP!

[hapapp]

Do you even know coach Blalock? Whatever problems the D line had this year were due to suspensions and injuries, not the D line coaching. Get the facts before calling me out for supporting a damn good coach.

On Saturday's in fall, do you wear a black jersey with #34 on the back? Are you guys secretly related and that's how you kept your spot all year?

Actually, I do believe wisheasheapp and the coach in question are related. It is a message board and it serves the purpose to discuss all things ASU but we need to be mindful these are real people we are talking about.

[bcoach]

Man, a lot of testiness on the MMB the past few days. Can't we all just get along?

SHUT UP!

Merry Christmas

[ASU_MBA]

Coach Blalock was simply the collateral damage resulting from the demotion of Jones. without a contract, which he had tried to get for a year, he was the sacrificial lamb of a plan put in place by Cobb in 2011. I sincerely hope he lands on his feet at a football program who will appreciate his abilities. If that is WCU then I will become what I never thought possible, a catamount fan.

You do realize we could have put four 85 year-old, bingo playing, chain smoking ladies out there and got the same pass rush your beloved Blalock coached up.

What is it with people on this board and the fear of change.

I guess if the D ain't broke (90th in the FCS) don't fix it, right?

[bcoach]

Coach Blalock was simply the collateral damage resulting from the demotion of Jones. without a contract, which he had tried to get for a year, he was the sacrificial lamb of a plan put in place by Cobb in 2011. I sincerely hope he lands on his feet at a football program who will appreciate his abilities. If that is WCU then I will become what I never thought possible, a catamount fan.

You do realize we could have put four 85 year-old, bingo playing, chain smoking ladies out there and got the same pass rush your beloved Blalock coached up.

What is it with people on this board and the fear of change.

I guess if the D ain't broke (90th in the FCS) don't fix it, right?

That is a load of crap!! There is no way on earth you can hold onto a bingo card, your lucky charms, and your marker during a pass rush. If you can't be sensible about this you have no business on here!!

[Rekdiver]

Enjoy the drive to Cuttaweed..................

[t4pizza]

Coach Blalock was simply the collateral damage resulting from the demotion of Jones. without a contract, which he had tried to get for a year, he was the sacrificial lamb of a plan put in place by Cobb in 2011. I sincerely hope he lands on his feet at a football program who will appreciate his abilities. If that is WCU then I will become what I never thought possible, a catamount fan.

Seriously? Do you have a man crush on coach Blalock or something? Our entire defense, including the defensive line, which Blalock coached, did not perform well. QBs had all day to throw on us.

If he lands at WCU, then I will admit they got another second rate coach, just like Brad Glenn and most of the others that jumped ship.

If my memory serves me well, this poster very well may be Coach Blalock's father in law. I can't remember the exact coach that married this posters daughter but from the post I feel certain it is Blalock. Could be wrong but that is my recollection.

[hapapp]

I believe you are correct.