Thoughts on the season/Team?

[AppSt94]

I do not believe it was a mastery of clock mgt, however, it may have been an attempt at clock mgt as the Joey Dimes era was still at its infancy. I do not believe Clark had trust 4 at that point on the season. Joey was slightly over 50% passing for the game...there were several factors that played into the loss....but the biggest was the blocked fg for td that Wyoming had not done in like 50 years

Agree. Sometimes you have to understand that any opportunities to score points are a premium and you have to take what you can get. Sure you can be aggressive and try and get 7 and in some instances, and SC has made this statement, 3 isn’t going to win the game. But you also have to recognize that possession are going to be limited so you have to get value out of them where you can.

[Saint3333]

- 4th and 2 at the 8 - kick a FG
- 4th and goal at the 11 - kick a FG
- 4th and goal at the 3 - kick a FG

That was the most conservative play calling during the Clark era. Wyoming had no offense, go for it and worst case you have great field position. It was very atypical and likely a lesson learned. I'm as guilty of this as anyone, but Clark was a first time HC just four years ago and continues to learn each year and get more comfortable with in-game decisions.

It is ok to give credit and at times be critical.

[AppSt94]

- 4th and 2 at the 8 - kick a FG
- 4th and goal at the 11 - kick a FG
- 4th and goal at the 3 - kick a FG

That was the most conservative play calling during the Clark era. Wyoming had no offense, go for it and worst case you have great field position. It was very atypical and likely a lesson learned. I'm as guilty of this as anyone, but Clark was a first time HC just four years ago and continues to learn each year and get more comfortable with in-game decisions.

It is ok to give credit and at times be critical.

Agree to disagree.

[Saint3333]

You disagree it is ok to be critical at times, well documented.

Which game was the play calling more conservative in similar situations?

[AppGrad78]

Kicking those field goals didn’t beat us. What did beat us was turning the ball over on our side of the field (resulting in a Wyoming TD); giving up an 80-yard TD run, and allowing a first-in-Wyoming history blocked field goal attempt to be returned for a touchdown.

[Saint3333]

Every decision has an impact on the game in some shape or form. Calling the most conservative plays in those situations and kicking those FGs provided the opportunity for a fluke play to change the outcome.

We lost by 3.

It took all three of those decisions, a bad INT, missed assignment on the long run, and blocked FG for Wyoming to win that game. The more talented team lost that day. It happens, we've been on the other side of that equation more often than not.

[AppSt94]

You disagree it is ok to be critical at times, well documented.

Which game was the play calling more conservative in similar situations?

In terms of questioning or being critical,here is what I know:

I understand the game of football.
I understand the analytics of football and how they are applied.
I can reasonably discern what I am seeing on the field to get a feel of what the outcome is going to be.


Here is what I don’t know:
I don’t know the gameplan.
I don’t know what play was called.
I don’t know each player’s responsibility in said play to understand what affected the outcome.

In summation, I know enough to know that I don’t know enough about the situation to be critical of said situation. Your issue is that it wasn’t what you would have done. And that’s a reasonable take. But in reality, that was one of the best game’s called by our staff from start to finish.

[Saint3333]

I'd say we both understand the game of football from our respective couches, however one of us has been willing to be critical vs. paint the rosiest picture no matter the staff's decisions.

Exhibit A - Best games called from start to finish. Perhaps your background in risk management is forming this assessment as it was the most conservative we've ever been in the Clark era.

[BambooRdApp]

If Wyoming game played later in the year and both teams in similar shape (no injuries), etc. I think Clark goes for some of those as more trust in Joey Dimes..Sitting in the crowd watching, it just seemed something was off offensively... whether execution....or Wyoming D had much to do with it. Tough loss on the road...that is for sure...

[Saint3333]

If Wyoming game played later in the year and both teams in similar shape (no injuries), etc. I think Clark goes for some of those as more trust in Joey Dimes..Sitting in the crowd watching, it just seemed something was off offensively... whether execution....or Wyoming D had much to do with it. Tough loss on the road...that is for sure...

If this were game 2 I could understand that, but he performed well vs. UNCCH and ECU the prior two weeks. He certainly put more trust in him as the season went along. Wyoming had a tough D and a very experienced coach.

[AppSt94]

If Wyoming game played later in the year and both teams in similar shape (no injuries), etc. I think Clark goes for some of those as more trust in Joey Dimes..Sitting in the crowd watching, it just seemed something was off offensively... whether execution....or Wyoming D had much to do with it. Tough loss on the road...that is for sure...

Two missed assignments led to 15 Wyoming points on two plays. Game could have ended 22-7 and no one is being “critical”.

[Saint3333]

That's not true, posters on here would have criticized that we should have won by more ;-).

[BambooRdApp]

If Wyoming game played later in the year and both teams in similar shape (no injuries), etc. I think Clark goes for some of those as more trust in Joey Dimes..Sitting in the crowd watching, it just seemed something was off offensively... whether execution....or Wyoming D had much to do with it. Tough loss on the road...that is for sure...

If this were game 2 I could understand that, but he performed well vs. UNCCH and ECU the prior two weeks. He certainly put more trust in him as the season went along. Wyoming had a tough D and a very experienced coach.

One game is not going to give a full faith of a coach in a QB. Joey Dimes was barely 50% completion rate for the UNC game. The yards were there given some longer passes...

[Black Saturday]

Here is the handicappers take on where APP fits in the 2024 G5 and playoff world:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/ ... cdf8&ei=49

Probably not as wonderful as some of us Yosef Cabin Homer's think or hope.


Liberty gets the early nod.

[Saint3333]

Top 5 is pretty dang good!

[Black Saturday]

Top 5 is pretty dang good!

Yes, it implies we should be the Sun Belt favorite and not the sacrificial lamb favorite for a 30 point playoff ass whipping simialar to what Liberty took last year versus Oregon.

[AppSt94]

Here is the handicappers take on where APP fits in the 2024 G5 and playoff world:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/ ... cdf8&ei=49

Probably not as wonderful as some of us Yosef Cabin Homer's think or hope.


Liberty gets the early nod.

This is why a victory over ECU is almost as important as beating Liberty head-to head. ECU faces three of the teams mentioned early in the season. App, Liberty and UTSA. Those outcomes could factor into any applied litmus test to determine the CFP participant.

[BambooRdApp]

Here is the handicappers take on where APP fits in the 2024 G5 and playoff world:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/ ... cdf8&ei=49

Probably not as wonderful as some of us Yosef Cabin Homer's think or hope.


Liberty gets the early nod.

This is why a victory over ECU is almost as important as beating Liberty head-to head. ECU faces three of the teams mentioned early in the season. App, Liberty and UTSA. Those outcomes could factor into any applied litmus test to determine the CFP participant.

I do not pull for EasyU often, if at all....but against liberty...I hope they win by a million!!!

[Saint3333]

We beat Clemson, lose to Liberty, beat ECU, ECU beats Liberty. All other G5s have two losses, who gets the bid 12-1 App or 12-1 Liberty?

[BambooRdApp]

Liberty has Jesus on their side. I heard he performs miracles

Relax people...just kidding