Bowl Game

[bigdaddyg]

If I were a player on the team I don't think I would be all fired up about the Belk Bowl. Basically just a bus ride from Boone and nothing really to do on "Bowl Week". I like Charlotte, lived there about 5 years and have a brother and his family there but as far as bowl appeal? Game has often been played in crappy weather and, like I said, it is only a bus ride away. The upside is that App could easily bring 25K in fans so the attendance would be great in total. Orlando would be my pick as a fan or a player.

[EastHallApp]

We're not going to the Belk Bowl.

[bigdaddyg]

We're not going to the Belk Bowl.

Yes, I know. That was just my random thoughts and opinion on the appeal of the Belk Bowl-if we ever get into that discussion in the future. I personally don't think there is much upside from an appeal perspective. As far as money goes I'm sure we would come out way ahead of the bowls in LA, Alabama or even Florida.

[EastHallApp]

Now that we're in the last full week of the regular season (for everyone but the Big 12 and Sun Belt), I thought I'd make a list of all the 5-6 teams that need to win their final game to become bowl eligible, along with the number of teams already eligible in each league. A couple caveats:

- I am not checking everyone's schedule to make sure they didn't play two FCS. I'm assuming 6-6 makes them all eligible.
- I didn't research how many tie-ins each league has. Though that would be a good project for someone else.

I count 71 teams already eligible, including two independents not listed below (I believe there are 80 total spots?). For the final 11 spots, there are 13 5-6 teams, one 5-5 team, and four 4-6 teams.

ACC (8 eligible)

Virginia Tech -3.5 at Virginia (4-7)

AAC (7 eligible)

Tulsa -6 at Tulane (3-8)
East Carolina -1 vs. Cincinnati (6-5)

Big Ten (7 eligible)

Nebraska +2.5 vs. Iowa (11-0)
Minnesota +2.5 vs. Wisconsin (8-3)
Illinois +3.5 vs. Northwestern (9-2)
Indiana -7 at Purdue (2-9)

CUSA (5 eligible)

Old Dominion +4 vs. Florida Atlantic (2-9)

MAC (7 eligible)

Buffalo -7 vs. UMass (2-9)

Mountain West (7 eligible)

San Jose St. +7.5 vs. Boise State (7-4)

Pac-12 (9 eligible)

Washington (NL) vs. Washington State (8-3)

SEC (10 eligible)

Missouri +14 at Arkansas (6-5)
Kentucky +4 vs. Louisville (6-5)

And for the record, teams with two games remaining who need at least one win:

Big 12 (6 eligible)

Texas (4-6) -1.5 vs. Texas Tech (6-5); at Baylor (9-1)
Kansas State (4-6) -20 at Kansas (0-11); vs. West Virginia (6-4)

Sun Belt (3 eligible)

Georgia State (4-6) -1 vs. Troy (3-7); at Ga. Southern (7-3)
ULL (4-6) +23 at App State (8-2); vs. Troy (3-7)
S. Alabama (5-5) +20.5 at Ga. Southern (7-3); vs. App State (8-2)

[EastHallApp]

Looking at all that, I'd say there's something less than a 50-50 shot that there are enough 6-6 teams to fill all the bowls. Maybe significantly less, actually.

[bigdaddyg]

Now that we're in the last full week of the regular season (for everyone but the Big 12 and Sun Belt), I thought I'd make a list of all the 5-6 teams that need to win their final game to become bowl eligible, along with the number of teams already eligible in each league. A couple caveats:

- I am not checking everyone's schedule to make sure they didn't play two FCS. I'm assuming 6-6 makes them all eligible.
- I didn't research how many tie-ins each league has. Though that would be a good project for someone else.

I count 69 teams already eligible (I believe there are 80 total spots?). For the final 11 spots, there are 13 5-6 teams, one 5-5 team, and four 4-6 teams.

ACC (8 eligible)

Virginia Tech -3.5 at Virginia (4-7) VT win
AAC (7 eligible)

Tulsa -6 at Tulane (3-8) predict Tulsa win (eligible)
East Carolina -1 vs. Cincinnati (6-5)

Big Ten (7 eligible)

Nebraska +2.5 vs. Iowa (11-0)
Minnesota +2.5 vs. Wisconsin (8-3)
Illinois +3.5 vs. Northwestern (9-2)
Indiana -7 at Purdue (2-9) Indiana win

CUSA (5 eligible)

Old Dominion +4 vs. Florida Atlantic (2-9) ODU win

MAC (7 eligible)

Buffalo -7 vs. UMass (2-9) Buffalo win

Mountain West (7 eligible)

San Jose St. +7.5 vs. Boise State (7-4)

Pac-12 (9 eligible)

Washington (NL) vs. Washington State (8-3)

SEC (10 eligible)

Missouri +14 at Arkansas (6-5)
Kentucky +4 vs. Louisville (6-5)

And for the record, teams with two games remaining who need at least one win:

Big 12 (6 eligible)

Texas (4-6) -1.5 vs. Texas Tech (6-5); at Baylor (9-1)
Kansas State (4-6) -20 at Kansas (0-11); vs. West Virginia (6-4)

Sun Belt (3 eligible)

Georgia State (4-6) -1 vs. Troy (3-7); at Ga. Southern (7-3)
ULL (4-6) +23 at App State (8-2); vs. Troy (3-7)
S. Alabama (5-5) +20.5 at Ga. Southern (7-3); vs. App State (8-2)

I only see 4 teams getting to 6 wins out of this mess. This will be the year that the bowls will look absolutely ridiculous, especially if several are filled with 5-7 teams. If we get some crap 5-7 opponent in Mobile that will be a huge letdown.

[ASU3432M]

We're 23 pt favorites over Lafayette??

[EastHallApp]

I only see 4 teams getting to 6 wins out of this mess. This will be the year that the bowls will look absolutely ridiculous, especially if several are filled with 5-7 teams. If we get some crap 5-7 opponent in Mobile that will be a huge letdown.

We won't.

Mobile gets the MAC champion. Montgomery will get at least a 6-6 MAC team, very likely a 7-5 one (at least). Cure will likely draw a 6-6 AAC team.

New Orleans Bowl, I would guess, would draw La. Tech unless a team ahead of them picks it first. CUSA is, however, going to come up 1-2 short of filling all their bowl slots.

[YesAppCan]

Question: If conferences come up short to fill their tie-in slots due to not having enough 6+ win teams, are the bowls with the tie-ins then free to shop around different conferences to fill their slot(s)?

[EastHallApp]

Yes - not sure exactly how that process works, but if a bowl doesn't have a primary or secondary tie-in to fill its spot, they'll typically go find an eligible team from a league that had more teams than bowls.

I *think* all leagues will fill in their primary tie-ins before any available teams go to other bowls though. In other words, I wouldn't expect App to go outside the Sun Belt's tie-ins; I think they'd fill those first, and as covered above, the SBC will be lucky to even fill its four this year, much less have extra teams.

[MtnDevil95]

Current talking heads seem to think to be that Clemson, Alabama, and the B1G champion will make up 3 CFP slots, leaving Notre Dame to battle Oklahoma in committee for the 4th.

If Notre Dame makes the CFP, then there could be an At Large spot open for the New Year's Six which will filter, most likely, to another AAC team, but that then rolls down hill through the AAC tie-ins and could drive down the level of competition headed to the Cure Bowl.

I've not paid enough attention to the impact Oklahoma making the CFP would have on BIG12 tie ins and possible open slots for other conferences, but there could be an opening there . . .

[AppDawg]

Now that we're in the last full week of the regular season (for everyone but the Big 12 and Sun Belt), I thought I'd make a list of all the 5-6 teams that need to win their final game to become bowl eligible, along with the number of teams already eligible in each league. A couple caveats:

- I am not checking everyone's schedule to make sure they didn't play two FCS. I'm assuming 6-6 makes them all eligible.
- I didn't research how many tie-ins each league has. Though that would be a good project for someone else.

I count 69 teams already eligible (I believe there are 80 total spots?). For the final 11 spots, there are 13 5-6 teams, one 5-5 team, and four 4-6 teams.

ACC (8 eligible)

Virginia Tech -3.5 at Virginia (4-7)

AAC (7 eligible)

Tulsa -6 at Tulane (3-8)
East Carolina -1 vs. Cincinnati (6-5)

Big Ten (7 eligible)

Nebraska +2.5 vs. Iowa (11-0)
Minnesota +2.5 vs. Wisconsin (8-3)
Illinois +3.5 vs. Northwestern (9-2)
Indiana -7 at Purdue (2-9)

CUSA (5 eligible)

Old Dominion +4 vs. Florida Atlantic (2-9)

MAC (7 eligible)

Buffalo -7 vs. UMass (2-9)

Mountain West (7 eligible)

San Jose St. +7.5 vs. Boise State (7-4)

Pac-12 (9 eligible)

Washington (NL) vs. Washington State (8-3)

SEC (10 eligible)

Missouri +14 at Arkansas (6-5)
Kentucky +4 vs. Louisville (6-5)

And for the record, teams with two games remaining who need at least one win:

Big 12 (6 eligible)

Texas (4-6) -1.5 vs. Texas Tech (6-5); at Baylor (9-1)
Kansas State (4-6) -20 at Kansas (0-11); vs. West Virginia (6-4)

Sun Belt (3 eligible)

Georgia State (4-6) -1 vs. Troy (3-7); at Ga. Southern (7-3)
ULL (4-6) +23 at App State (8-2); vs. Troy (3-7)
S. Alabama (5-5) +20.5 at Ga. Southern (7-3); vs. App State (8-2)

Here is a site that provides all of the above (except current betting line)

Currently 71 eligible teams with 14 one win away and 33 eliminated.

http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaaf/writer/ ... ty-tracker

[EastHallApp]

Current talking heads seem to think to be that Clemson, Alabama, and the B1G champion will make up 3 CFP slots, leaving Notre Dame to battle Oklahoma in committee for the 4th.

If Notre Dame makes the CFP, then there could be an At Large spot open for the New Year's Six which will filter, most likely, to another AAC team, but that then rolls down hill through the AAC tie-ins and could drive down the level of competition headed to the Cure Bowl.

I've not paid enough attention to the impact Oklahoma making the CFP would have on BIG12 tie ins and possible open slots for other conferences, but there could be an opening there . . .

Notre Dame isn't going to open up any slots - they'll be in the NY6 one way or another, either in the CFP or one of the other bowls. And if they weren't, that spot would surely go to a P5 team (see last year).

Clemson and Bama will certainly make the CFP if they win out. Same for Iowa, I assume. If the B1G champ is Michigan State, I expect they'd be more on even footing with Notre Dame and the OU/Oklahoma State winner.

[bigdaddyg]

Now that we're in the last full week of the regular season (for everyone but the Big 12 and Sun Belt), I thought I'd make a list of all the 5-6 teams that need to win their final game to become bowl eligible, along with the number of teams already eligible in each league. A couple caveats:

- I am not checking everyone's schedule to make sure they didn't play two FCS. I'm assuming 6-6 makes them all eligible.
- I didn't research how many tie-ins each league has. Though that would be a good project for someone else.

I count 69 teams already eligible (I believe there are 80 total spots?). For the final 11 spots, there are 13 5-6 teams, one 5-5 team, and four 4-6 teams.

ACC (8 eligible)

Virginia Tech -3.5 at Virginia (4-7)

AAC (7 eligible)

Tulsa -6 at Tulane (3-8)
East Carolina -1 vs. Cincinnati (6-5)

Big Ten (7 eligible)

Nebraska +2.5 vs. Iowa (11-0)
Minnesota +2.5 vs. Wisconsin (8-3)
Illinois +3.5 vs. Northwestern (9-2)
Indiana -7 at Purdue (2-9)

CUSA (5 eligible)

Old Dominion +4 vs. Florida Atlantic (2-9)

MAC (7 eligible)

Buffalo -7 vs. UMass (2-9)

Mountain West (7 eligible)

San Jose St. +7.5 vs. Boise State (7-4)

Pac-12 (9 eligible)

Washington (NL) vs. Washington State (8-3)

SEC (10 eligible)

Missouri +14 at Arkansas (6-5)
Kentucky +4 vs. Louisville (6-5)

And for the record, teams with two games remaining who need at least one win:

Big 12 (6 eligible)

Texas (4-6) -1.5 vs. Texas Tech (6-5); at Baylor (9-1)
Kansas State (4-6) -20 at Kansas (0-11); vs. West Virginia (6-4)

Sun Belt (3 eligible)

Georgia State (4-6) -1 vs. Troy (3-7); at Ga. Southern (7-3)
ULL (4-6) +23 at App State (8-2); vs. Troy (3-7)
S. Alabama (5-5) +20.5 at Ga. Southern (7-3); vs. App State (8-2)

Here is a site that provides all of the above (except current betting line)

Currently 71 eligible teams with 14 one win away and 33 eliminated.

http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaaf/writer/ ... ty-tracker

Anybody else see a missing team from the list?

[EastHallApp]

Here is a site that provides all of the above (except current betting line)

Currently 71 eligible teams with 14 one win away and 33 eliminated.

http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaaf/writer/ ... ty-tracker

Thanks for the link - I failed to include the two independents in my count (ND and BYU), so that was the 69/71 discrepancy. Corrected my original post.

[bigdaddyg]

Now that we're in the last full week of the regular season (for everyone but the Big 12 and Sun Belt), I thought I'd make a list of all the 5-6 teams that need to win their final game to become bowl eligible, along with the number of teams already eligible in each league. A couple caveats:

- I am not checking everyone's schedule to make sure they didn't play two FCS. I'm assuming 6-6 makes them all eligible.
- I didn't research how many tie-ins each league has. Though that would be a good project for someone else.

I count 69 teams already eligible (I believe there are 80 total spots?). For the final 11 spots, there are 13 5-6 teams, one 5-5 team, and four 4-6 teams.

ACC (8 eligible)

Virginia Tech -3.5 at Virginia (4-7)

AAC (7 eligible)

Tulsa -6 at Tulane (3-8)
East Carolina -1 vs. Cincinnati (6-5)

Big Ten (7 eligible)

Nebraska +2.5 vs. Iowa (11-0)
Minnesota +2.5 vs. Wisconsin (8-3)
Illinois +3.5 vs. Northwestern (9-2)
Indiana -7 at Purdue (2-9)

CUSA (5 eligible)

Old Dominion +4 vs. Florida Atlantic (2-9)

MAC (7 eligible)

Buffalo -7 vs. UMass (2-9)

Mountain West (7 eligible)

San Jose St. +7.5 vs. Boise State (7-4)

Pac-12 (9 eligible)

Washington (NL) vs. Washington State (8-3)

SEC (10 eligible)

Missouri +14 at Arkansas (6-5)
Kentucky +4 vs. Louisville (6-5)

And for the record, teams with two games remaining who need at least one win:

Big 12 (6 eligible)

Texas (4-6) -1.5 vs. Texas Tech (6-5); at Baylor (9-1)
Kansas State (4-6) -20 at Kansas (0-11); vs. West Virginia (6-4)

Sun Belt (3 eligible)

Georgia State (4-6) -1 vs. Troy (3-7); at Ga. Southern (7-3)
ULL (4-6) +23 at App State (8-2); vs. Troy (3-7)
S. Alabama (5-5) +20.5 at Ga. Southern (7-3); vs. App State (8-2)

Here is a site that provides all of the above (except current betting line)

Currently 71 eligible teams with 14 one win away and 33 eliminated.

http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaaf/writer/ ... ty-tracker

Anybody else see a missing team from the list?

Don't see U LA LA

[YesAppCan]

If you are a fan of a 5-7 team that gets in a bowl due to not-enough-bowl-eligible-teams, would you go?

[newtoasu]

If you are a fan of a 5-7 team that gets in a bowl due to not-enough-bowl-eligible-teams, would you go?

You bet I would go. I go to games when the team is having a losing season, so way stay away from another game.