Re: It's time guys...Clark must go
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:17 am
Our last 20 offers for 2023 have been all juco and now into the portal. Oh, and we lose Chase brice next year so insert freshman qb!
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It's time guys...Clark must go
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Re: It's time guys...Clark must go
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:22 am
Wait, so are we still expanding the stadium to 40k? LololGreatAppSt wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:25 pmWe will probably lose way more than 2 mil in ticket and concession sales in 23 if we keep him.
Re: It's time guys...Clark must go
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:23 am
shoot, a few of us on here could take this talented roster to 6-7 for $200k.NoLongerLurking wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:28 pmWhat if I told you there are good coaches that don't need millions?
Re: It's time guys...Clark must go
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:24 am
Can I ask why you automatically think next year will be a 6/7 win season?/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:13 amWhat's your solution other than asking other people for their solution?Seattleapp wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:00 amSo what’s your solution as you can’t differentiate talentyosef69 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 11:49 pmLiterally everything you just pointed to is a coaching issue other than injuries.bigdaddyg wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 11:45 pmSo because Vegas picked us to win 10 of 12 games we were just supposed to? I get all of that stuff but I saw a whole bunch of backups on defense tonight and I saw slow defensive backs with poor mechanics. I saw some guys out of position on defense (not just this game either). I also saw smaller backup linebackers playing who are not top tier Sunbelt level, good backup guys but that's all.
Bad mechanics, poor position, smaller talent, all of it has a root cause of coaching.
You think everything is ok? Hoping to go 7-5 next year to hang your hat on the fact we improved, and made a bowl, all the while not even coming close to winning the conference, or even the division?
You can look at tonight and blame it on injuries, but when it's the same thing even with the majority of the team healthy, it's hard to just say injuries alone are to blame for this season.
Injuries aren't the reason we got blasted by Texas State or gave up a nice lead to JMU at home. Win those two games and that trip to Conway we'd already be bowl eligible, playing for a chance to control our destiny to win the division.
Clark won 9 in 2020 and 10 in 2021. This was undeniably a bad year. But he’s won much more than he’s lost so far. Why the assumption that next year will be another dog?
Re: It's time guys...Clark must go
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:25 am
No one said everything is ok. But who’s gonna pony up the money for a buyout? And is it a Clark problem or a coordinator problem? The season is long and like it or not, the defensive margin for error was nil/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:13 amWhat's your solution other than asking other people for their solution?Seattleapp wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:00 amSo what’s your solution as you can’t differentiate talentyosef69 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 11:49 pmLiterally everything you just pointed to is a coaching issue other than injuries.bigdaddyg wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 11:45 pmSo because Vegas picked us to win 10 of 12 games we were just supposed to? I get all of that stuff but I saw a whole bunch of backups on defense tonight and I saw slow defensive backs with poor mechanics. I saw some guys out of position on defense (not just this game either). I also saw smaller backup linebackers playing who are not top tier Sunbelt level, good backup guys but that's all.
Bad mechanics, poor position, smaller talent, all of it has a root cause of coaching.
You think everything is ok? Hoping to go 7-5 next year to hang your hat on the fact we improved, and made a bowl, all the while not even coming close to winning the conference, or even the division?
You can look at tonight and blame it on injuries, but when it's the same thing even with the majority of the team healthy, it's hard to just say injuries alone are to blame for this season.
Injuries aren't the reason we got blasted by Texas State or gave up a nice lead to JMU at home. Win those two games and that trip to Conway we'd already be bowl eligible, playing for a chance to control our destiny to win the division.
Re: It's time guys...Clark must go
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:32 am
Not suggesting it will be, but if it is do we look at that honestly as an improvement just because it's one more win than this year, and bowl eligible?ah59396 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:24 amCan I ask why you automatically think next year will be a 6/7 win season?/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:13 amWhat's your solution other than asking other people for their solution?Seattleapp wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:00 amSo what’s your solution as you can’t differentiate talentyosef69 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 11:49 pmLiterally everything you just pointed to is a coaching issue other than injuries.bigdaddyg wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 11:45 pm
So because Vegas picked us to win 10 of 12 games we were just supposed to? I get all of that stuff but I saw a whole bunch of backups on defense tonight and I saw slow defensive backs with poor mechanics. I saw some guys out of position on defense (not just this game either). I also saw smaller backup linebackers playing who are not top tier Sunbelt level, good backup guys but that's all.
Bad mechanics, poor position, smaller talent, all of it has a root cause of coaching.
You think everything is ok? Hoping to go 7-5 next year to hang your hat on the fact we improved, and made a bowl, all the while not even coming close to winning the conference, or even the division?
You can look at tonight and blame it on injuries, but when it's the same thing even with the majority of the team healthy, it's hard to just say injuries alone are to blame for this season.
Injuries aren't the reason we got blasted by Texas State or gave up a nice lead to JMU at home. Win those two games and that trip to Conway we'd already be bowl eligible, playing for a chance to control our destiny to win the division.
Clark won 9 in 2020 and 10 in 2021. This was undeniably a bad year. But he’s won much more than he’s lost so far. Why the assumption that next year will be another dog?
No idea what next year holds. A lot of question marks and in today's CFB landscape with transfers, it's even harder to put forth a next season estimate. Do we get another transfer QB? If not is there a clear leader on the current roster to take over as starter? Who will be lost to the portal? So much to uncover.
Re: It's time guys...Clark must go
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:33 am
No chase brice. That’s really all we need to know. Look at the schedule. We trusting Burger for 8+ wins next year?ah59396 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:24 amCan I ask why you automatically think next year will be a 6/7 win season?/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:13 amWhat's your solution other than asking other people for their solution?Seattleapp wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:00 amSo what’s your solution as you can’t differentiate talentyosef69 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 11:49 pmLiterally everything you just pointed to is a coaching issue other than injuries.bigdaddyg wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 11:45 pm
So because Vegas picked us to win 10 of 12 games we were just supposed to? I get all of that stuff but I saw a whole bunch of backups on defense tonight and I saw slow defensive backs with poor mechanics. I saw some guys out of position on defense (not just this game either). I also saw smaller backup linebackers playing who are not top tier Sunbelt level, good backup guys but that's all.
Bad mechanics, poor position, smaller talent, all of it has a root cause of coaching.
You think everything is ok? Hoping to go 7-5 next year to hang your hat on the fact we improved, and made a bowl, all the while not even coming close to winning the conference, or even the division?
You can look at tonight and blame it on injuries, but when it's the same thing even with the majority of the team healthy, it's hard to just say injuries alone are to blame for this season.
Injuries aren't the reason we got blasted by Texas State or gave up a nice lead to JMU at home. Win those two games and that trip to Conway we'd already be bowl eligible, playing for a chance to control our destiny to win the division.
Clark won 9 in 2020 and 10 in 2021. This was undeniably a bad year. But he’s won much more than he’s lost so far. Why the assumption that next year will be another dog?
Re: It's time guys...Clark must go
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:38 am
That’s why they play the games brother. I remember when Zac Thomas came in as an unknown and lit Penn State’s ass up.311neers wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:33 amNo chase brice. That’s really all we need to know. Look at the schedule. We trusting Burger for 8+ wins next year?ah59396 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:24 amCan I ask why you automatically think next year will be a 6/7 win season?/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:13 amWhat's your solution other than asking other people for their solution?Seattleapp wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:00 amSo what’s your solution as you can’t differentiate talent
You think everything is ok? Hoping to go 7-5 next year to hang your hat on the fact we improved, and made a bowl, all the while not even coming close to winning the conference, or even the division?
You can look at tonight and blame it on injuries, but when it's the same thing even with the majority of the team healthy, it's hard to just say injuries alone are to blame for this season.
Injuries aren't the reason we got blasted by Texas State or gave up a nice lead to JMU at home. Win those two games and that trip to Conway we'd already be bowl eligible, playing for a chance to control our destiny to win the division.
Clark won 9 in 2020 and 10 in 2021. This was undeniably a bad year. But he’s won much more than he’s lost so far. Why the assumption that next year will be another dog?
Re: It's time guys...Clark must go
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:41 am
I think it's a coordinator problem, but I think it's on Clark to realize that and seek to make some changes. I think Clark and DG should have the conversation tomorrow about how they plan to proceed going forward, with Clark being open to searching for coordinator and position coach replacements.Seattleapp wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:25 amNo one said everything is ok. But who’s gonna pony up the money for a buyout? And is it a Clark problem or a coordinator problem? The season is long and like it or not, the defensive margin for error was nil/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:13 amWhat's your solution other than asking other people for their solution?Seattleapp wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:00 amSo what’s your solution as you can’t differentiate talentyosef69 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 11:49 pmLiterally everything you just pointed to is a coaching issue other than injuries.bigdaddyg wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 11:45 pm
So because Vegas picked us to win 10 of 12 games we were just supposed to? I get all of that stuff but I saw a whole bunch of backups on defense tonight and I saw slow defensive backs with poor mechanics. I saw some guys out of position on defense (not just this game either). I also saw smaller backup linebackers playing who are not top tier Sunbelt level, good backup guys but that's all.
Bad mechanics, poor position, smaller talent, all of it has a root cause of coaching.
You think everything is ok? Hoping to go 7-5 next year to hang your hat on the fact we improved, and made a bowl, all the while not even coming close to winning the conference, or even the division?
You can look at tonight and blame it on injuries, but when it's the same thing even with the majority of the team healthy, it's hard to just say injuries alone are to blame for this season.
Injuries aren't the reason we got blasted by Texas State or gave up a nice lead to JMU at home. Win those two games and that trip to Conway we'd already be bowl eligible, playing for a chance to control our destiny to win the division.
Can't wait too long due to recruiting and if there is anyone currently unwilling to stay because the coach they liked has been replaced, gives them time to hit the portal and for coaches to set up for next year.
Re: It's time guys...Clark must go
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:42 am
I agree with that/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:41 amI think it's a coordinator problem, but I think it's on Clark to realize that and seek to make some changes. I think Clark and DG should have the conversation tomorrow about how they plan to proceed going forward, with Clark being open to searching for coordinator and position coach replacements.Seattleapp wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:25 amNo one said everything is ok. But who’s gonna pony up the money for a buyout? And is it a Clark problem or a coordinator problem? The season is long and like it or not, the defensive margin for error was nil/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:13 amWhat's your solution other than asking other people for their solution?Seattleapp wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:00 amSo what’s your solution as you can’t differentiate talent
You think everything is ok? Hoping to go 7-5 next year to hang your hat on the fact we improved, and made a bowl, all the while not even coming close to winning the conference, or even the division?
You can look at tonight and blame it on injuries, but when it's the same thing even with the majority of the team healthy, it's hard to just say injuries alone are to blame for this season.
Injuries aren't the reason we got blasted by Texas State or gave up a nice lead to JMU at home. Win those two games and that trip to Conway we'd already be bowl eligible, playing for a chance to control our destiny to win the division.
Can't wait too long due to recruiting and if there is anyone currently unwilling to stay because the coach they liked has been replaced, gives them time to hit the portal and for coaches to set up for next year.
Re: It's time guys...Clark must go
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:48 am
Still not sold on this "all the talent in the world". I think coaches were handicapped in some ways.
I also think there's a lot of room for improvement from the coaches and need to make those improvements this offseason.
Clark gets 1 more year.
I also think there's a lot of room for improvement from the coaches and need to make those improvements this offseason.
Clark gets 1 more year.
Re: It's time guys...Clark must go
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:49 am
Apparently everyone on their couch could311neers wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:23 amshoot, a few of us on here could take this talented roster to 6-7 for $200k.NoLongerLurking wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:28 pmWhat if I told you there are good coaches that don't need millions?
Re: It's time guys...Clark must go
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:53 am
SeattleApp, you going to Wyoming next year? Im going since it’s as close as the boys get to us out here in the PNW.Seattleapp wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:49 amApparently everyone on their couch could311neers wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:23 amshoot, a few of us on here could take this talented roster to 6-7 for $200k.NoLongerLurking wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:28 pmWhat if I told you there are good coaches that don't need millions?
Re: It's time guys...Clark must go
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:56 am
You damn right! I was at the last one which was a disaster. But the west is amazingah59396 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:53 amSeattleApp, you going to Wyoming next year? Im going since it’s as close as the boys get to us out here in the PNW.Seattleapp wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:49 amApparently everyone on their couch could311neers wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:23 amshoot, a few of us on here could take this talented roster to 6-7 for $200k.NoLongerLurking wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:28 pmWhat if I told you there are good coaches that don't need millions?
Re: It's time guys...Clark must go
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:59 am
Wicked I’ll be there too. Planning to watch App State win, fly fish, and hopefully drink something dangerous in a saloon. See you there.Seattleapp wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:56 amYou damn right! I was at the last one which was a disaster. But the west is amazingah59396 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:53 amSeattleApp, you going to Wyoming next year? Im going since it’s as close as the boys get to us out here in the PNW.Seattleapp wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:49 amApparently everyone on their couch could311neers wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:23 amshoot, a few of us on here could take this talented roster to 6-7 for $200k.NoLongerLurking wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:28 pm
What if I told you there are good coaches that don't need millions?
Re: It's time guys...Clark must go
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 1:00 am
Laramie is the only place I’ve ever seen cowboys drinking Martinisah59396 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:59 amWicked I’ll be there too. Planning to watch App State win, fly fish, and hopefully drink something dangerous in a saloon. See you there.Seattleapp wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:56 amYou damn right! I was at the last one which was a disaster. But the west is amazingah59396 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:53 amSeattleApp, you going to Wyoming next year? Im going since it’s as close as the boys get to us out here in the PNW.
Re: It's time guys...Clark must go
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 1:03 am
Seems unnatural but to each their own. Was in a saloon near Livingston Montana and it was whisky only. Love the west.Seattleapp wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 1:00 amCheyanne is the only place I’ve ever seen cowboys drinking Martinisah59396 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:59 amWicked I’ll be there too. Planning to watch App State win, fly fish, and hopefully drink something dangerous in a saloon. See you there.Seattleapp wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:56 amYou damn right! I was at the last one which was a disaster. But the west is amazing
Re: It's time guys...Clark must go
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 1:08 am
I’m with you! Let’s get up and have a booze!ah59396 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 1:03 amSeems unnatural but to each their own. Was in a saloon near Livingston Montana and it was whisky only. Love the west.Seattleapp wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 1:00 amCheyanne is the only place I’ve ever seen cowboys drinking Martinisah59396 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:59 amWicked I’ll be there too. Planning to watch App State win, fly fish, and hopefully drink something dangerous in a saloon. See you there.Seattleapp wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:56 amYou damn right! I was at the last one which was a disaster. But the west is amazing
Re: It's time guys...Clark must go
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 6:11 am
That has been my concern the whole season. No way DJ is leaving unless he initiates it. Very slippery slope with the money TS gives to the program.CharlotteApp05 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:20 pmHonest question. Is DJ only the DC because he is with TS daughter? Can SC not fire him because of that?
Because if that’s the case we are in even worse shape than we think we are.
Re: It's time guys...Clark must go
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 6:41 am
Nice set up and way to bring it home.Yosefus wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:57 pmOh Lord he's lost itNoLongerLurking wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:55 pmYes, just speaking through a forum - but certainly not conveying my point in a manner to be listened to or understood. It's okay. Just a game.Seattleapp wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:43 pmSo you don’t really have anyone you are just venting. You are just talkingNoLongerLurking wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:41 pmMy point is simple, but perhaps naive. My post is absolute truth - for the same reason there are not only 2 people worthy of leading the free world every 4 years. There are tens of thousands of individuals that could do a better job than anyone you place on a pedestal.
We are all just people.
