By the skin of our teeth...

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Re: By the skin of our teeth...

Unread post by AppState89 » Sun Nov 01, 2015 7:21 am

Appaholic01 wrote:Rekdiver, where do you see that B Nunn is likely done for the regular season? Listed as questionable on injury report today and the AppState beat writer stated he'd likely have played if the game was against Ark. St. Who is your source saying he's done?
No rumor. He is done and Rekdiver's source is 100% correct.
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Re: By the skin of our teeth...

Unread post by hapapp » Sun Nov 01, 2015 7:25 am

One can always hope! :lol:

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Unread post by T-Dog » Sun Nov 01, 2015 7:49 am

Nunn had surgery on Friday. He's done for the year.

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Unread post by hapapp » Sun Nov 01, 2015 8:16 am

T-Dog wrote:Nunn had surgery on Friday. He's done for the year.
Our OL is struggling right now. Injuries are beginning to have a big impact. Beyond the loss of Nunn we have several banged up that is effecting their overall performance. We had a hard time protecting Taylor. Satt even suggested the holding penalties were a result of getting beat on the edges.

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Unread post by Longrifle28 » Sun Nov 01, 2015 8:21 am

hapapp wrote:
T-Dog wrote:Nunn had surgery on Friday. He's done for the year.
Our OL is struggling right now. Injuries are beginning to have a big impact. Beyond the loss of Nunn we have several banged up that
is effecting their overall performance. We had a hard time protecting Taylor. Satt even suggested the holding penalties were a result of getting beat on the edges.
They were. If you watch a replay, Troy was very prepared for that naked bootleg pass we like to run. The defensive end took a lot better angle each time making him hard to block.
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Unread post by JMappfan5 » Sun Nov 01, 2015 8:48 am

Troy had a great offensive and defensive scheme for us...they were well prepared. I think they surprised us with their overall athleticism. Their front 7 on Def. was quick to the ball and (for the most part) good tacklers. Their secondary was beatable but Taylor had to scramble and could not find our open (sometimes wide-open) receivers. I was also impressed with their short passing game. They took what we gave them and punished us. Our guys showed a lot of heart and true grit, to hang in and get the win. Proud of this team

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Unread post by Rekdiver » Sun Nov 01, 2015 8:50 am

If it appears I have a man crush on Beau Nunn I very well may! He was having an All Conference season a major reason Cox has so much success running and Taylor had time to pass. We did get eaten up on the edges and Troy played disciplined assignment ball. Satt and Woody should always have Plan "b" plays when they see something isn't working and I'm sure the AState coaches are looking at this film right now. I'm not upset with the coaches ( mildly upset with woody for not blitzing) but that game was a teaching/learning moment.

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Unread post by YesAppCan » Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:14 am

Nunn was a large part of the "glue" for our O-Line. It was obvious the line wasn't the same without him in there.

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Unread post by App90 » Sun Nov 01, 2015 10:30 am

97grad wrote:
TheMackAttack wrote:I wasn't a fan of how we played defense today. We didn't attack, we dropped eight into coverage far too often. We are at our best when we bring pressure and force the offense to react to us. Think about it, how many times did you hear John Law's name called today? Eric Boggs? All five of the linebackers who get significant snaps are playmakers and today we didn't give them the chance to be difference makers.
I also noticed that I didn't hear the name John Law once today. But I still don't understand how we can have that many guys in coverage and they still have so much success passing.
Because they (ASU) sat in a zone for most of the day. Is Troy that good or did ASU's defense allow them to find the seams and soft spots in this zone. I believe Troy nit picked ASU's zone all day and found the spots when they needed to. I also believe the Troy coaches have been watching film for at least 2 to 3 weeks for this game. On the defensive (Troy) side they pulled their safeties up about 10 feet off the line and made the stretch play and any thing Lamb needed to do difficult. They just gave the league a blue print on how to slow down this offense. They wanted to stop the run at all cost. With that being said yes "Nunn" is out so that didn't help. What is perplexing is our defense did change and adapt and Troy quickly did something else and that takes a lot of scheming and practice. This was their super bowl. My concern is our Offense shooting themselves in the foot numerous times and not being creative, no wheel routes no counters, very few screens. Yes Troy is way better than their record. But ASU played not to lose and that's what they did. On to StAte....Now I know why their Linebacker was talking so much.

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Unread post by AtlAppMan » Sun Nov 01, 2015 12:16 pm

asu66 wrote: I dispute the luck comment.
I am one of the ones who made the Lucky comment and I stand behind it. First let me say, Troy brought their A+ game to us, kudos to them. They had us on the ropes in the second half. Our guys didn't have their best day and they still did what they had to do to win, kudos to them. I am extremely proud of our guys for standing up and finishing the game with a W.

However, one perfect example of luck is the dropped Troy pass for the homerun in 4th that would have been a game winner. We were totally beat on that pass and Troy receiver totally dropped it without any defensive interaction. I have to call that good luck on our side. It certainly wasn't our team making a play. Sometimes you need a bit of good luck and that is what we got yesterday to go along with some hard work and effort by our team.

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Unread post by S.Lewis15 » Sun Nov 01, 2015 12:30 pm

A win is a win. On to Arkansas State

I think we have become so dependent on the run, that Taylor Lamb will not throw the ball unless a WR is wide open. Sometimes you have to trust your receivers to make a big play. It's also hard to complete passes when you are forced to roll out of the pocket on every play due to the OLine getting beat.

Penalties killed us last night, and have killed us all season. We can make plays down the field, but when we are penalized with a holding call on the next play, like we often are, it negates the hard work from the previous play.

I have confidence in our Coaches and Players to be focused this Thursday.

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Unread post by SpeedkingATL » Sun Nov 01, 2015 12:37 pm

I thought App lacked emotion today and were somewhat vanilla on defense as well. It was a big win considering how well Troy brought it to App. No team has complete focus for 12 games....the really good ones fight through it as App did today.

Kudos to Zac for making the big kicks again yesterday. It's amazing the difference a good confident kicking game can make.

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Unread post by APPdiesel » Sun Nov 01, 2015 12:56 pm

Offense played ok. Not great, but ok. Considering how the defense has played all year, 31 regulation points would be more than enough to win. The defensive change is what perplexes me. Our M.O. all year has been blitz and disrupt, put the opposing team behind the chains into obvious passing situations, and we didn't do that yesterday. Obviously the coaches saw something that warranted it, but it just doesn't make sense to abandon our identity.

Overall, we looked much like we did in the first 6 games of 2014 but played just well enough, and came up big when it counted. Last year, we lose this game.

Good news is, with stAte struggling with Ga State yesterday we have a good blueprint on them too. #beatstAte

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Unread post by Music_man185 » Sun Nov 01, 2015 1:17 pm

Lots of people talking about the disappointing defense. I was equally disappointed with the offense. Taylor Lamb simply did not look comfortable out there. There were many, many plays where he dropped back and simply would not throw the ball. Even with open receivers. He held onto the ball for far too long and would end up getting sacked or throwing it away.

I also don't agree with a lot of the play calls. It was far too predictable. Run up the middle on 1st and 2nd down, get few yards, then attempt a 30 yard pass on 3rd and long. It's been the same story all season long of going for deep plays on 3rd down, when they only need a couple yards to move the chains. Don't worry about scoring on every play. Get the 1st down and keep the drive alive
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Unread post by ASU3333 » Sun Nov 01, 2015 1:26 pm

I think a few have mentioned it, but the tempo that Troy ran yesterday makes it difficult to blitz and place pressure on the QB. There were several times when the defense wasn't ready for the play due to the defensive staff calling plays. I don't think it's a matter of poor coaching, but more a result of Troy's uptempo scheme, very similar to Oregon. This uptempo requires the defense to play a base set with no stunts or blitzes, and what makes the uptempo offense successful when it's rolling.

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Unread post by sixtoes9134 » Sun Nov 01, 2015 2:13 pm

Our offense was productive even against the leagues 2nd best defense, but our defense (#1 defense in the league) was simply not good last night.

Talk all you want about Nunn and OL being dinged, but our defense just simply didn't get it done last night.

That being said, Vegas was dead wrong on this one and most of the guys I chat with during the week all acknowledged Troy was much, much better than their record indicated.

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Unread post by bcoach » Sun Nov 01, 2015 2:51 pm

Nunn is a big loss but you can't fall apart if ONE guy goes down. Remember we now have all those extra schollies. Where are they?

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Unread post by sixtoes9134 » Sun Nov 01, 2015 2:54 pm

I find it odd that Nunn was questionable on Friday and still on the two deep as the starter and now all of a sudden he had surgery on the day he was questionable? That's, questionable.

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Unread post by 97grad » Sun Nov 01, 2015 2:54 pm

S.Lewis15 wrote:
Penalties killed us last night, and have killed us all season. We can make plays down the field, but when we are penalized with a holding call on the next play, like we often are, it negates the hard work from the previous play.
Agreed, but as anyone who has followed Appalachian for any length of time knows, the fact of the matter is that we have been a highly penalized team for many years. It's one Appalachian tradition that I'd like to see die.

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Unread post by appst89 » Sun Nov 01, 2015 2:56 pm

sixtoes9134 wrote:I find it odd that Nunn was questionable on Friday and still on the two deep as the starter and now all of a sudden he had surgery on the day he was questionable? That's, questionable.
Obviously some misinformation out there. The WSJ beat writer tweeted that Nunn would dress but not likely play and then we hear he had surgery and is done for the season? A head scratcher for sure.

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