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Unread post by The Rock » Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:46 am

WVAPPeer wrote:
The Rock wrote:
WVAPPeer wrote:Well I don't believe that is statistically correct -
Michigan - 300 total yards
So Miss - 455 total yards
Ga So - 330 total yards
So Ala - 400 total yards
I believe your statistics are somewhat misleading as well. How many of these yards were gained well after the game had been decided? I would venture to say nearly 50% of the yards at Michigan were gained in the 4th quarter long after the dogs had been called off, same for southern Alabama. Let's look at 1st half stats, specifically 1st quarter, where the yardage actually counts and the outcome is yet to be determined.
Furthermore, moving the ball is great, but those yards don't equal points. Even if we drove 99 yards every drive, is that successful if we can't convert it to points?
If your argument is converting in the red zone then I would be in agreement - Our offense has looked good in two games this year. Campbell and liberty. Even in the liberty game lamb had 2 interceptions, which is becoming a trend and cox had 2 fumbles, which is becoming a trend. Overall offense played well but not sure if I'm ready to say it improved due to the competition and turnovers.that is not what you initially said ---
What I initially said is I see no improvement in offense and I stand by that.
Let's break down our first half possessions on our 3 FBS games this year (excluding Michigan)
Southern miss:
1st quarter-16yd, punt. 50yards, missed fg,11 yds, int
2nd quarter- 79 yd, TD. 11yds, punt. 4yds, end of half
171 total yds-7points
Ga south:
1st- 1 yd, punt. 9yds, punt. 4yds, punt
2nd- 75yds, TD. 6yds, punt, 74yds, TD
155 yds-14 points
South alabma
1st-8yds, fumble. 8 yds, punt. 4 yds, punt. 8yds, punt. 63yds, missed fg.
2nd-21yds, punt. 71yds, TD. 38yds, end of half.
221 yards, 7 points.

Can't say that I see any evidence of improvement.
Slow starts, turnovers,missed opportunities.

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Unread post by The Rock » Mon Oct 13, 2014 11:15 am

Here is another stat.
We average 439 yds of offense through 6 games this year.
However, if we throw out the non FBS games, that number falls to around 360yds per game, which isn't bad, except none resulted in wins.
Even at that, we only won one of those games that pads our overall averages so much.

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Unread post by EastHallApp » Mon Oct 13, 2014 2:18 pm

The Rock wrote:Here is another stat.
We average 439 yds of offense through 6 games this year.
However, if we throw out the non FBS games, that number falls to around 360yds per game, which isn't bad, except none resulted in wins.
Even at that, we only won one of those games that pads our overall averages so much.
Actually 360 would be quite bad, as it would be outside the top 100 nationally. Of course, we're not the only team that's padded our stats against an overmatched opponent. But I doubt there are many others that played a nonscholarship FCS AND an unranked Big South team.

Add in how much of the yardage vs. Michigan and USA came in garbage time vs. backups, and the numbers aren't too impressive.

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Unread post by Skiddy » Mon Oct 13, 2014 2:21 pm

Hey not sure where you are going on those stats - we have played some of the worst teams in FBS and FCS -

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Unread post by The Rock » Mon Oct 13, 2014 2:27 pm

EastHallApp wrote:
The Rock wrote:Here is another stat.
We average 439 yds of offense through 6 games this year.
However, if we throw out the non FBS games, that number falls to around 360yds per game, which isn't bad, except none resulted in wins.
Even at that, we only won one of those games that pads our overall averages so much.
Actually 360 would be quite bad, as it would be outside the top 100 nationally. Of course, we're not the only team that's padded our stats against an overmatched opponent. But I doubt there are many others that played a nonscholarship FCS AND an unranked Big South team.

Add in how much of the yardage vs. Michigan and USA came in garbage time vs. backups, and the numbers aren't too impressive.


That's why I broke it down by 1st half into previous post. We are only gaining an average of only 182 yards and 9 points in the first halves of our FBS games (michigan not included)

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Unread post by Skiddy » Mon Oct 13, 2014 2:29 pm

See how good we are going to be just look at the rankings almost the worst team overall

81. Texas Tech (2-4, 0-3) – DOWN 12 | 82. Nevada (3-3, 1-2) – DOWN 10 | 83. North Carolina State (4-3, 0-3) | 84. South Alabama (3-2, 2-1) | 85. Rice (3-3, 1-1) | 86. San Jose State (2-3, 1-0) | 87. Washington State (2-5, 1-3) | 88. Fresno State (3-4, 2-1) | 89. UTSA (2-4, 1-1) | 90. Texas State (3-2, 1-0)

91. UTEP (3-3, 1-1) – UP 11 | 92. Purdue (3-4, 1-2) | 93. Louisiana-Monroe (3-3, 2-1) | 94. Syracuse (2-4, 0-2) | 95. Western Kentucky (2-3, 0-2) | 96. South Florida (2-4, 1-1) | 97. Colorado (2-4, 0-3) | 98. Illinois (3-4, 0-3) | 99. Ohio (3-4, 1-2) | 100. Old Dominion (3-4, 1-3) – DOWN 11

101. North Texas (2-4, 0-2) | 102. Hawaii (2-4, 1-0) | 103. Wyoming (3-3, 1-1) | 104. Tulane (2-4, 1-1) | 105. Kansas (2-4, 0-3) | 106. UNLV (2-5, 1-2) – UP 13 | 107. Wake Forest (2-4, 0-2) | 108. Army (2-4, 0-0) | 109. Western Michigan (3-3, 1-1) | 110. Florida Atlantic (2-4, 1-1)

111. Florida International (3-4, 2-1) | 12. Ball State (1-5, 0-2) | 113. Vanderbilt (2-5, 0-4) | 114. Buffalo (3-4, 1-2) – DOWN 11 | 115. New Mexico (2-4, 0-2) | 116. Tulsa (1-5, 1-1) | 117. Eastern Michigan (2-4, 1-1) – UP 11 | 118. Southern Mississippi (2-4, 0-2) | 119. Connecticut (1-5, 0-2) | 120. Troy (1-5, 1-1) | 121. New Mexico State (2-5, 1-2) | 122. Georgia State (1-5, 0-3) | 123. Massachusetts (1-6, 1-2) | 124. SMU (0-5, 0-1) | 125. Appalachian State (1-5, 0-2) | 126. Miami (Ohio) (1-6, 1-2) | 127. Kent State (0-6, 0-3) – DOWN 6 | 128. Idaho (0-6, 0-4)

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Unread post by AppSt94 » Mon Oct 13, 2014 2:47 pm

The Rock wrote:
EastHallApp wrote:
The Rock wrote:Here is another stat.
We average 439 yds of offense through 6 games this year.
However, if we throw out the non FBS games, that number falls to around 360yds per game, which isn't bad, except none resulted in wins.
Even at that, we only won one of those games that pads our overall averages so much.
Actually 360 would be quite bad, as it would be outside the top 100 nationally. Of course, we're not the only team that's padded our stats against an overmatched opponent. But I doubt there are many others that played a nonscholarship FCS AND an unranked Big South team.

Add in how much of the yardage vs. Michigan and USA came in garbage time vs. backups, and the numbers aren't too impressive.


That's why I broke it down by 1st half into previous post. We are only gaining an average of only 182 yards and 9 points in the first halves of our FBS games (michigan not included)
Rock your wasting your time. All these folks care about is the win loss record today. They lack vision.

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Unread post by SpeedkingATL » Mon Oct 13, 2014 2:53 pm

Primary Issues:

Red Zone Offense (lack of it)
Lack of Pass Rush (add to that the very soft coverage and primarily zone coverage)
Turnovers
Lack of successful kicking game.
Terrible first quarters which means App plays from behind most of the time.
Bad Timing (turnovers, missed kicks, or penalties at the absolute worst time)

Some of this is attributable to youth, much of it is not.

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Unread post by Skiddy » Mon Oct 13, 2014 3:06 pm

Nope have never recruited - didn't apply for the job either - anybody can hand out scholarships but does that mean they are better than our Sunbelt foes? Bottomline then if he can recruit why are we not playing better - you know why COACHING - WHY DID HE PUT THE BALL ON THE RIGHT HASH MARK AT THE END OF THE GAME - COACHING, COACHING, COACHING - hey I hope you are all right that we have some talent up and coming - he's not the guy to get the most of out them ...

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Unread post by App91 » Mon Oct 13, 2014 3:08 pm

AppSt94 wrote:
The Rock wrote:
EastHallApp wrote:
The Rock wrote:Here is another stat.
We average 439 yds of offense through 6 games this year.
However, if we throw out the non FBS games, that number falls to around 360yds per game, which isn't bad, except none resulted in wins.
Even at that, we only won one of those games that pads our overall averages so much.
Actually 360 would be quite bad, as it would be outside the top 100 nationally. Of course, we're not the only team that's padded our stats against an overmatched opponent. But I doubt there are many others that played a nonscholarship FCS AND an unranked Big South team.

Add in how much of the yardage vs. Michigan and USA came in garbage time vs. backups, and the numbers aren't too impressive.


That's why I broke it down by 1st half into previous post. We are only gaining an average of only 182 yards and 9 points in the first halves of our FBS games (michigan not included)
Rock your wasting your time. All these folks care about is the win loss record today. They lack vision.
No, we have a vision, and we ain't wearing shades, if you know what I mean. That is the most dire part is the vision I see devastating to this Ath. dept.

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Unread post by WVAPPeer » Mon Oct 13, 2014 3:29 pm

Skiddy wrote:Nope have never recruited - didn't apply for the job either - anybody can hand out scholarships but does that mean they are better than our Sunbelt foes? Bottomline then if he can recruit why are we not playing better - you know why COACHING - WHY DID HE PUT THE BALL ON THE RIGHT HASH MARK AT THE END OF THE GAME - COACHING, COACHING, COACHING - hey I hope you are all right that we have some talent up and coming - he's not the guy to get the most of out them ...
When did you become such as expert on recruiting, coaching, etc.? What do we have here 5 posts? - unless this is a different screen name for someone who has been on here for awhile like a couple of people I know ---
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WVAPPeer wrote:
Skiddy wrote:Nope have never recruited - didn't apply for the job either - anybody can hand out scholarships but does that mean they are better than our Sunbelt foes? Bottomline then if he can recruit why are we not playing better - you know why COACHING - WHY DID HE PUT THE BALL ON THE RIGHT HASH MARK AT THE END OF THE GAME - COACHING, COACHING, COACHING - hey I hope you are all right that we have some talent up and coming - he's not the guy to get the most of out them ...
When did you become such as expert on recruiting, coaching, etc.? What do we have here 5 posts? - unless this is a different screen name for someone who has been on here for awhile like a couple of people I know ---
No for years I was on Any Given Saturday not here - I am not an expert on recruiting, said that, but answer this did you agree with going for it on 4th and 4 at the GSU 8 when we were down 10 at the beginning at the second half? Did you agree with the last 3 plays against Liberty and not at least downing the ball in the middle of the field at the end on that 3rd down? Anyone who has been around football can make those calls - Right?

What would you have done?

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Skiddy wrote: No for years I was on Any Given Saturday not here - I am not an expert on recruiting, said that, but answer this did you agree with going for it on 4th and 4 at the GSU 8 when we were down 10 at the beginning at the second half? Did you agree with the last 3 plays against Liberty and not at least downing the ball in the middle of the field at the end on that 3rd down? Anyone who has been around football can make those calls - Right?

What would you have done?
What does any of this have to do with recruiting?
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WVAPPeer wrote:
Skiddy wrote:Nope have never recruited - didn't apply for the job either - anybody can hand out scholarships but does that mean they are better than our Sunbelt foes? Bottomline then if he can recruit why are we not playing better - you know why COACHING - WHY DID HE PUT THE BALL ON THE RIGHT HASH MARK AT THE END OF THE GAME - COACHING, COACHING, COACHING - hey I hope you are all right that we have some talent up and coming - he's not the guy to get the most of out them ...
When did you become such as expert on recruiting, coaching, etc.? What do we have here 5 posts? - unless this is a different screen name for someone who has been on here for awhile like a couple of people I know ---

I confess, WVApp. Skiddy is me, NewApp, JCline.

Just kidding. I just thought I would throw that line out before some arse cavity said it was me.
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Unread post by EastHallApp » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:04 pm

Skiddy wrote:Nope have never recruited - didn't apply for the job either - anybody can hand out scholarships but does that mean they are better than our Sunbelt foes?
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Unread post by hapapp » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:46 pm

Skiddy wrote:Nope have never recruited - didn't apply for the job either - anybody can hand out scholarships but does that mean they are better than our Sunbelt foes? Bottomline then if he can recruit why are we not playing better - you know why COACHING - WHY DID HE PUT THE BALL ON THE RIGHT HASH MARK AT THE END OF THE GAME - COACHING, COACHING, COACHING - hey I hope you are all right that we have some talent up and coming - he's not the guy to get the most of out them ...
I scratched my head at that one too...but it could be that Critcher would prefer kicking from the right hash...not sure why he would but he might prefer that angle.

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Unread post by WVAPPeer » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:56 pm

NewApp wrote:
WVAPPeer wrote:
Skiddy wrote:Nope have never recruited - didn't apply for the job either - anybody can hand out scholarships but does that mean they are better than our Sunbelt foes? Bottomline then if he can recruit why are we not playing better - you know why COACHING - WHY DID HE PUT THE BALL ON THE RIGHT HASH MARK AT THE END OF THE GAME - COACHING, COACHING, COACHING - hey I hope you are all right that we have some talent up and coming - he's not the guy to get the most of out them ...
When did you become such as expert on recruiting, coaching, etc.? What do we have here 5 posts? - unless this is a different screen name for someone who has been on here for awhile like a couple of people I know ---

I confess, WVApp. Skiddy is me, NewApp, JCline.
Just kidding. I just thought I would throw that line out before some arse cavity said it was me.
Nope - knew it wasn't you NA/JC - you make much more sense in your posts :o
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Unread post by Bearboy » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:59 pm

I don't know how many of you noticed but there was a stretch during the 2nd qtr that the defense was playing lights out. 3 of 4 possessions for Liberty were 3and out, with the exception being the fly pattern for a td on first down. During that stretch, we had 2 true freshman on the field at the LB position. Talk about youth and time to make the switch? Time to go with the youth movement across the board.

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Unread post by The Rock » Mon Oct 13, 2014 5:54 pm

Bearboy wrote:I don't know how many of you noticed but there was a stretch during the 2nd qtr that the defense was playing lights out. 3 of 4 possessions for Liberty were 3and out, with the exception being the fly pattern for a td on first down. During that stretch, we had 2 true freshman on the field at the LB position. Talk about youth and time to make the switch? Time to go with the youth movement across the board.
I don't think anyone is against youth. That is my point. Young does not equal bad. We have talented players, so why are we not winning? Why aren't we improving? Why aren't we scoring when we get in the red zone?

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