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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - IN

Unread post by Yosef10 » Sun Dec 22, 2024 2:08 pm

AppGrad78 wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 9:09 am
Some of you seem to think 5-6 is the absolute bottom for us. It isn’t. Not knowing anything about Lindenwood but 1-11 is a very real possibility. This “burn it to the ground” mentality is what causes cycles like ECU is in.
Our situation is far from apples to apples with what ECU did in 2015. You can argue the reasons, but App has objectively been in a backslide since 2022. ECU had one 5-7 season with a 3rd string QB and axed Ruffin because of disgruntled donors behind the scenes. That dynamic, along with their incompetent AD, made it very difficult to hire a new guy of any quality. Hence Scotty Montgomery.

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Unread post by bcoach » Sun Dec 22, 2024 2:09 pm

We can keep looking in the rear view mirror and beating the dead horse coaching staff to death. They are gone. I would rather look out the windshield and see what we need in horses to run this race. We need a lot of help if we are going to turn around.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - IN

Unread post by Stonewall » Sun Dec 22, 2024 3:31 pm

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Sun Dec 22, 2024 11:13 am
I’d say coaching was the problem this year, not the personnel. Game plan on both sides of the ball was stale. I think our HC, OC, and DC got complacent. Glad some of the studs are coming back.
It might have been both.I believe the former staff got lazy on the recruiting trail. The new staff is looking to upgrade the roster .

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Unread post by hapapp » Sun Dec 22, 2024 5:18 pm

Stonewall wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 3:31 pm
goapps93 wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 11:13 am
I’d say coaching was the problem this year, not the personnel. Game plan on both sides of the ball was stale. I think our HC, OC, and DC got complacent. Glad some of the studs are coming back.
It might have been both.I believe the former staff got lazy on the recruiting trail. The new staff is looking to upgrade the roster .
Its certainly possible but some of the classes in recent cycles have been some of our best on paper. I'm certain any new staff is looking to upgrade the roster. I think its hard to judge whether the staff got complacent but no doubt things didn't go as planned. It did seem it was time for a change. Time will tell. I think we're all anxious to see it on the field even it requires some initial patience.

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Unread post by Seattleapp » Sun Dec 22, 2024 5:23 pm

bcoach wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 2:09 pm
We can keep looking in the rear view mirror and beating the dead horse coaching staff to death. They are gone. I would rather look out the windshield and see what we need in horses to run this race. We need a lot of help if we are going to turn around.
I think a few more victory laps are needed to feel better about themselves.

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Unread post by dougy2 » Sun Dec 22, 2024 5:59 pm

The Portal, the Portal, the Portal!!!
Ruining college football!! There along with NIL.
Watching semi-pro athletics.
KMA!!
No longer watch pro baseball, never really liked pro basketball, only watch pro football when there's an App Alum on the team.

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Unread post by Stonewall » Sun Dec 22, 2024 6:11 pm

I used the term “ lazy” , which is harsh . To be frank however , that is a direct quote from a couple of App Hall of Famers who shared their concerns with me , separately, over the past few years. And good bourbon.

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Unread post by boonetodd » Sun Dec 22, 2024 6:12 pm

So who is the qb going to be?

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Unread post by 311neers » Sun Dec 22, 2024 9:54 pm

boonetodd wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 6:12 pm
So who is the qb going to be?
Portal most likely IMO

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Unread post by Saint3333 » Sun Dec 22, 2024 10:18 pm

Stonewall wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 6:11 pm
I used the term “ lazy” , which is harsh . To be frank however , that is a direct quote from a couple of App Hall of Famers who shared their concerns with me , separately, over the past few years. And good bourbon.
I heard the same from a couple of former players. I missed the good bourbon, I need an upgrade!

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Unread post by 704App » Mon Dec 23, 2024 8:52 am

hapapp wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 5:18 pm
Stonewall wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 3:31 pm
goapps93 wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 11:13 am
I’d say coaching was the problem this year, not the personnel. Game plan on both sides of the ball was stale. I think our HC, OC, and DC got complacent. Glad some of the studs are coming back.
It might have been both.I believe the former staff got lazy on the recruiting trail. The new staff is looking to upgrade the roster .
Its certainly possible but some of the classes in recent cycles have been some of our best on paper. I'm certain any new staff is looking to upgrade the roster. I think its hard to judge whether the staff got complacent but no doubt things didn't go as planned. It did seem it was time for a change. Time will tell. I think we're all anxious to see it on the field even it requires some initial patience.
I think that's the problem. They went after good classes on paper. Darrynton Evans has been very vocal since Clark took over they were recruiting the stars on paper and not the "Dawgs" like him and others under Satt

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - IN

Unread post by boonetodd » Mon Dec 23, 2024 9:42 am

311neers wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 9:54 pm
boonetodd wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 6:12 pm
So who is the qb going to be?
Portal most likely IMO
Pretty important position. Any names being floated around other than the Ark Qb that went to purdue?

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Unread post by ASUFan4863 » Mon Dec 23, 2024 9:53 am

I would expect Joey to return.

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Unread post by appstate24 » Mon Dec 23, 2024 9:56 am

boonetodd wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 9:42 am
311neers wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 9:54 pm
boonetodd wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 6:12 pm
So who is the qb going to be?
Portal most likely IMO
Pretty important position. Any names being floated around other than the Ark Qb that went to purdue?
Any news on Robby Ashford from USC following DLO?

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Unread post by BUTCH1991 » Mon Dec 23, 2024 10:30 am

ASUFan4863 wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 9:53 am
I would expect Joey to return.
Do you really think that?

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Unread post by ASUFan4863 » Mon Dec 23, 2024 10:35 am

BUTCH1991 wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 10:30 am
ASUFan4863 wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 9:53 am
I would expect Joey to return.
Do you really think that?
I think it is very possible. We still likely bring in someone but if Joey can get a court decision like the Vandy QB, I have it on good authority that he would be our QB in 2025.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - IN

Unread post by AppStateMtneer » Mon Dec 23, 2024 10:42 am

ASUFan4863 wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 9:53 am
I would expect Joey to return.
Honestly… hope not

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - IN

Unread post by ASUFan4863 » Mon Dec 23, 2024 10:49 am

The thought is that Ponce was the issue. Not Joey.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - IN

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Mon Dec 23, 2024 11:03 am

ASUFan4863 wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 10:35 am
BUTCH1991 wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 10:30 am
ASUFan4863 wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 9:53 am
I would expect Joey to return.
Do you really think that?
I think it is very possible. We still likely bring in someone but if Joey can get a court decision like the Vandy QB, I have it on good authority that he would be our QB in 2025.
DLO might have names in mind and I would think Joey might look to follow Ponce or be looking for a fresh start, if he does get another year. The ruling was for Pavia only but does open that door so we will see what happens.

There are a lot of quality QBs in the portal and I am hoping instead of just waiting on whether Joey can and wants to return that we land someone within 2-3 weeks.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - IN

Unread post by hapapp » Mon Dec 23, 2024 3:54 pm

I doubt the Pavia decision is final. If I recall it was just a preliminary injunction, which means it likely will go to trial.

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