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Dowell's assistants

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Re: Dowell's assistants

Unread post by MrCraig » Tue Dec 17, 2024 11:51 am

HurricaneYosef wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2024 10:25 am
What a home run hire at DC, the most important assistant position in my opinion too

I’d be willing to bet some of us would have been excited if Zach Arnett was announced as our next HC, and we have him as a coordinator!
As a fair weather Miss State fan through family, I would not have been excited for Zach Arnett as HC. He's a GREAT DC, but he flamed out pretty hard as HC at Miss State. He's the guy who thought hiring away Kevin Barbay from App was a good idea. Honestly, that hire was a really big nail in his coffin at MSU. Their defense was nails, the offense was anemic.

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Re: Dowell's assistants

Unread post by AppSt91 » Tue Dec 17, 2024 12:10 pm

HurricaneYosef wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2024 10:25 am
What a home run hire at DC, the most important assistant position in my opinion too

I’d be willing to bet some of us would have been excited if Zach Arnett was announced as our next HC, and we have him as a coordinator!
Have to wait and see if he stays once the NFL coaching dominoes begin to fall.

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Re: Dowell's assistants

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Re: Dowell's assistants

Unread post by Yosef10 » Tue Dec 17, 2024 12:43 pm

DenverOfTheEast wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2024 8:23 am
JUST REMEMBER ---

There was a time when Drinkwitz hired a popular big time DC named Ted Roof and then after the 1st ball game vs Charlotte 90% of this board was calling for him to be fired!!!!

Drinkwitz did NOT even let him be available to media after that 1st game.

DOTE does not forget!!!!!!
Ted Roof has never had a fan base that didn’t want to fire him.

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Re: Dowell's assistants

Unread post by AppState89 » Tue Dec 17, 2024 12:44 pm

Yosef10 wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2024 12:43 pm
DenverOfTheEast wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2024 8:23 am
JUST REMEMBER ---

There was a time when Drinkwitz hired a popular big time DC named Ted Roof and then after the 1st ball game vs Charlotte 90% of this board was calling for him to be fired!!!!

Drinkwitz did NOT even let him be available to media after that 1st game.

DOTE does not forget!!!!!!
Ted Roof has never had a fan base that didn’t want to fire him.
He is the suitcase coach of college football. New city and new team every year.
AppState89 AKA Robert Martin :D :D

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Re: Dowell's assistants

Unread post by Yosef10 » Tue Dec 17, 2024 12:46 pm

diehardapp18 wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2024 8:25 am
DenverOfTheEast wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2024 8:23 am
JUST REMEMBER ---

There was a time when Drinkwitz hired a popular big time DC named Ted Roof and then after the 1st ball game vs Charlotte 90% of this board was calling for him to be fired!!!!

Drinkwitz did NOT even let him be available to media after that 1st game.

DOTE does not forget!!!!!!
There was also a time where we had a head coach that hired his buddies to be defensive coordinator which resulted in us having some of the worst, most undisciplined, unprepared defenses in the conference.

Diehardapp does not forget!!!!!!
In fairness, I don’t think Shawn hired them because they were his buddies. I think his issue, and it was one I thought about when he was hired, was that he just didn’t have many contacts to draw from in the coaching community. To be expected when you’ve only been on OL coach at a couple spots and then back to App.

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Re: Dowell's assistants

Unread post by t4pizza » Tue Dec 17, 2024 12:49 pm

MrCraig wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2024 11:51 am
HurricaneYosef wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2024 10:25 am
What a home run hire at DC, the most important assistant position in my opinion too

I’d be willing to bet some of us would have been excited if Zach Arnett was announced as our next HC, and we have him as a coordinator!
As a fair weather Miss State fan through family, I would not have been excited for Zach Arnett as HC. He's a GREAT DC, but he flamed out pretty hard as HC at Miss State. He's the guy who thought hiring away Kevin Barbay from App was a good idea. Honestly, that hire was a really big nail in his coffin at MSU. Their defense was nails, the offense was anemic.
He did not do well as HC but honestly I doubt anybody would have in the wake of that sudden tragedy. He wasn't ready to be a SEC head coach (especially in the west) at that point in his career. He might have been great at G5 where he could learn the head coach role, but that is too much to ask in the SEC West with less talent than all the competition and the talent you did have was recruited specifically for a Mike Leach offense. Again, I doubt anyone would have been successful in that positions. He is an amazing DC though and I can't wait to get him up here and working.

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Re: Dowell's assistants

Unread post by T-Dog » Tue Dec 17, 2024 12:58 pm

Arnett went 5-6 as Mississippi State head coach (win as interim in bowl game, then went 4-6).

MSU has been 3-11 since firing Arnett and hasn't won an SEC game. Those 3 wins were over Southern Miss, Eastern Kentucky and UMass.

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Re: Dowell's assistants

Unread post by Pisgahman1 » Tue Dec 17, 2024 1:05 pm

Greenhalgh,Speir,Nolan Jones staying
Go Apps!

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Re: Dowell's assistants

Unread post by biggie » Tue Dec 17, 2024 1:23 pm

Pisgahman1 wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2024 1:05 pm
Greenhalgh,Speir,Nolan Jones staying
That is discussed here I posted above.
https://footballscoop.com/news/sources- ... BVtgrjf16g

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Re: Dowell's assistants

Unread post by Saint3333 » Tue Dec 17, 2024 1:23 pm

Were any of those under contract beyond March 2025?

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Re: Dowell's assistants

Unread post by bcoach » Tue Dec 17, 2024 1:29 pm

I was wishing for an upgrade at strength.

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Re: Dowell's assistants

Unread post by T-Dog » Tue Dec 17, 2024 2:41 pm

I know he's well liked and can do a bunch of other stuff, but I hope we don't have Speir as the clock management coordinator again. Standing on the sideline at Coastal with a shocked look on his face as time ran down in the first half despite having a timeout (and with a frustrated Clark next to him) was a major failure.
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Re: Dowell's assistants

Unread post by ASUTodd » Tue Dec 17, 2024 2:47 pm

Pisgahman1 wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2024 1:05 pm
Greenhalgh,Speir,Nolan Jones staying
Strength and conditioning was lacking big time this year.... Speir, not sure why he is staying...

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Re: Dowell's assistants

Unread post by kornegaylw » Tue Dec 17, 2024 3:00 pm

ASUTodd wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2024 2:47 pm
Pisgahman1 wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2024 1:05 pm
Greenhalgh,Speir,Nolan Jones staying
Strength and conditioning was lacking big time this year.... Speir, not sure why he is staying...
Chill...S&C was better this year than the years before GreenHaugh was here. Yes guys got injured but for football injuries happen no matter how good of shape you're in.

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Re: Dowell's assistants

Unread post by ASUTodd » Tue Dec 17, 2024 3:02 pm

kornegaylw wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2024 3:00 pm
ASUTodd wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2024 2:47 pm
Pisgahman1 wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2024 1:05 pm
Greenhalgh,Speir,Nolan Jones staying
Strength and conditioning was lacking big time this year.... Speir, not sure why he is staying...
Chill...S&C was better this year than the years before GreenHaugh was here. Yes guys got injured but for football injuries happen no matter how good of shape you're in.
How do you know Im not chill? I could be the chillest person out here..... S&C looked like crap to me. Especially when we were getting manhandled by teams. Anyways.... guess Ill go "chill" some more.

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Re: Dowell's assistants

Unread post by yosef69 » Tue Dec 17, 2024 3:06 pm

Arnett to UNLV.

Knew it was too good to be true.

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Re: Dowell's assistants

Unread post by kornegaylw » Tue Dec 17, 2024 3:06 pm

ASUTodd wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2024 3:02 pm
kornegaylw wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2024 3:00 pm
ASUTodd wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2024 2:47 pm
Pisgahman1 wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2024 1:05 pm
Greenhalgh,Speir,Nolan Jones staying
Strength and conditioning was lacking big time this year.... Speir, not sure why he is staying...
Chill...S&C was better this year than the years before GreenHaugh was here. Yes guys got injured but for football injuries happen no matter how good of shape you're in.
How do you know Im not chill? I could be the chillest person out here..... S&C looked like crap to me. Especially when we were getting manhandled by teams. Anyways.... guess Ill go "chill" some more.
Lol for real chill dude

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Re: Dowell's assistants

Unread post by AppDub » Tue Dec 17, 2024 3:14 pm

yosef69 wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2024 3:06 pm
Arnett to UNLV.

Knew it was too good to be true.
Plenty of money at UNLV compared to Appstate. Mullen getting 5 million per year.

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Re: Dowell's assistants

Unread post by asu2000 » Tue Dec 17, 2024 3:18 pm

T-Dog wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2024 2:41 pm
I know he's well liked and can do a bunch of othet stuff, but I hope we don't have Speir as the clock management coordinator again. Standing on the sideline at Coastal with a shocked look on his face as time ran down in the first half despite having a timeout (and with a frustrated Clark next to him) was a major failure.
What is Speirs value in staying - having a head coach on the sidelines who needs someone telling him what to do seems ridiculous to me.

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