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Unread post by NewApp » Tue Oct 08, 2024 6:07 pm

We don't know for sure if any on the list above would take the job.
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Unread post by ASUTodd » Tue Oct 08, 2024 8:33 pm

NewApp wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2024 6:07 pm
We don't know for sure if any on the list above would take the job.
Holy crap.... I'm glad we have you on the case, Captain Obvious

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Unread post by T-Dog » Tue Oct 08, 2024 10:42 pm

The only way I can see in-season changes is if we're 2-7 of 3-6 after Coastal, which would mean either a 6 game losing stream or losing 5 of our last 6 going into a bye week. Either situation would mean we can't win 6 games to make a bowl. Even then, I can see it being a "he'll finish the season but won't return in 2025" deal to begin the search.

This is Clark's staff. He's said he hired everyone and in some cases, waited to hire them.

I hope it doesn't happen, as it's an admission of failure and it'll be a sad day. But man, it's seems headed that way if things don't turn around.

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Unread post by Bootsy » Wed Oct 09, 2024 5:58 am

OK, let's game this out...what good could come from Coach Clark being fired mid-season?

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Unread post by Tru2ASU » Wed Oct 09, 2024 6:43 am

Just from a financial standpoint, i see Clark finishing the season, no matter what.

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Unread post by Tru2ASU » Wed Oct 09, 2024 6:53 am

Jonathan Patke with Justin Watts running the offense

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Unread post by MrCraig » Wed Oct 09, 2024 7:08 am

Bootsy wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2024 5:58 am
OK, let's game this out...what good could come from Coach Clark being fired mid-season?
You get a head start on finding the next guy before most other teams. Then, that guy can start recruiting. That's about it. I guess we need to identify now if we are "keep Clark," "Fire Clark NOW!" or "Fire Clark at the end of the season." I'm the last one.

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Unread post by moonshine » Wed Oct 09, 2024 8:40 am

MrCraig wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2024 7:08 am
You get a head start on finding the next guy before most other teams. Then, that guy can start recruiting. That's about it.
A majority of NC FBS programs may be replacing their coach after this season. Mack looks to be done at UNC. Dave’s Wolfpack are underperforming and sitting at .500. Pirates are not happy with Houston in year 6. Not that they’ll do better but Weak fans are growing weary of Clawson. Until this past weekend’s beating of the Pirates, UNCC’s 8 fans were ready to run Poggi and AD Hill out of town. It seems only the Duke job is safe, at this moment, assuming Diaz doesn’t get hired away by a SEC program. Depending on how the chips fall, every NC FBS program could be replacing their coach after this season. Crazy to think about!
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Unread post by ASUFan4863 » Wed Oct 09, 2024 8:43 am

moonshine wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2024 8:40 am
MrCraig wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2024 7:08 am
You get a head start on finding the next guy before most other teams. Then, that guy can start recruiting. That's about it.
A majority of NC FBS programs may be replacing their coach after this season. Mack looks to be done at UNC. Dave’s Wolfpack are underperforming and sitting at .500. Pirates are not happy with Houston in year 6. Not that they’ll do better but Weak fans are growing weary of Clawson. Until this past weekend’s beating of the Pirates, UNCC’s 8 fans were ready to run Poggi and AD Hill out of town. It seems only the Duke job is safe, at this moment, assuming Diaz doesn’t get hired away by a SEC program. Depending on how the chips fall, every NC FBS program could be replacing their coach after this season. Crazy to think about!
exactly why I think a mid season change should occur. When (not if) we lose the 6th game, Clark should be fired immediately. Need to get a head start on the future.

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Unread post by ASUTodd » Wed Oct 09, 2024 8:46 am

ASUFan4863 wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2024 8:43 am
moonshine wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2024 8:40 am
MrCraig wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2024 7:08 am
You get a head start on finding the next guy before most other teams. Then, that guy can start recruiting. That's about it.
A majority of NC FBS programs may be replacing their coach after this season. Mack looks to be done at UNC. Dave’s Wolfpack are underperforming and sitting at .500. Pirates are not happy with Houston in year 6. Not that they’ll do better but Weak fans are growing weary of Clawson. Until this past weekend’s beating of the Pirates, UNCC’s 8 fans were ready to run Poggi and AD Hill out of town. It seems only the Duke job is safe, at this moment, assuming Diaz doesn’t get hired away by a SEC program. Depending on how the chips fall, every NC FBS program could be replacing their coach after this season. Crazy to think about!
exactly why I think a mid season change should occur. When (not if) we lose the 6th game, Clark should be fired immediately. Need to get a head start on the future.
100% agree. I say go ahead and rip the bandaid off now.

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Unread post by AppStFan1 » Wed Oct 09, 2024 8:58 am

moonshine wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2024 8:40 am
MrCraig wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2024 7:08 am
You get a head start on finding the next guy before most other teams. Then, that guy can start recruiting. That's about it.
A majority of NC FBS programs may be replacing their coach after this season. Mack looks to be done at UNC. Dave’s Wolfpack are underperforming and sitting at .500. Pirates are not happy with Houston in year 6. Not that they’ll do better but Weak fans are growing weary of Clawson. Until this past weekend’s beating of the Pirates, UNCC’s 8 fans were ready to run Poggi and AD Hill out of town. It seems only the Duke job is safe, at this moment, assuming Diaz doesn’t get hired away by a SEC program. Depending on how the chips fall, every NC FBS program could be replacing their coach after this season. Crazy to think about!
I would think Charlotte keeps him one more year. The only school you mention that is relevant to us is ECU because the others are going to want coaches way out of our price range. Mike Houston supposedly makes 2M so ECU would be above us as well also. The buyout is much larger if we don’t wait until Dec 2 to formally move on. I do think Gillin should be doing research and lining up interested names if we lose 2 of the next 3, if he hasn’t already been making calls.

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Unread post by ASUFan4863 » Wed Oct 09, 2024 9:01 am

ASUTodd wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2024 8:46 am
ASUFan4863 wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2024 8:43 am
moonshine wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2024 8:40 am
MrCraig wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2024 7:08 am
You get a head start on finding the next guy before most other teams. Then, that guy can start recruiting. That's about it.
A majority of NC FBS programs may be replacing their coach after this season. Mack looks to be done at UNC. Dave’s Wolfpack are underperforming and sitting at .500. Pirates are not happy with Houston in year 6. Not that they’ll do better but Weak fans are growing weary of Clawson. Until this past weekend’s beating of the Pirates, UNCC’s 8 fans were ready to run Poggi and AD Hill out of town. It seems only the Duke job is safe, at this moment, assuming Diaz doesn’t get hired away by a SEC program. Depending on how the chips fall, every NC FBS program could be replacing their coach after this season. Crazy to think about!
exactly why I think a mid season change should occur. When (not if) we lose the 6th game, Clark should be fired immediately. Need to get a head start on the future.
100% agree. I say go ahead and rip the bandaid off now.
That would be my inclination as well. I think there is an opening here with the bye week and a bowl game still mathematically possible. Under a non-hurricane recovery situation, it might be different.

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Unread post by 311neers » Wed Oct 09, 2024 9:13 am

ASUFan4863 wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2024 9:01 am
ASUTodd wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2024 8:46 am
ASUFan4863 wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2024 8:43 am
moonshine wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2024 8:40 am
MrCraig wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2024 7:08 am
You get a head start on finding the next guy before most other teams. Then, that guy can start recruiting. That's about it.
A majority of NC FBS programs may be replacing their coach after this season. Mack looks to be done at UNC. Dave’s Wolfpack are underperforming and sitting at .500. Pirates are not happy with Houston in year 6. Not that they’ll do better but Weak fans are growing weary of Clawson. Until this past weekend’s beating of the Pirates, UNCC’s 8 fans were ready to run Poggi and AD Hill out of town. It seems only the Duke job is safe, at this moment, assuming Diaz doesn’t get hired away by a SEC program. Depending on how the chips fall, every NC FBS program could be replacing their coach after this season. Crazy to think about!
exactly why I think a mid season change should occur. When (not if) we lose the 6th game, Clark should be fired immediately. Need to get a head start on the future.
100% agree. I say go ahead and rip the bandaid off now.
That would be my inclination as well. I think there is an opening here with the bye week and a bowl game still mathematically possible. Under a non-hurricane recovery situation, it might be different.
I don't see any scenario where he returns outside of a SBC championship or a title game appearance. Seen too much of the same ol same ol. You tell him the deal now and if he doesn't get to the SBC title game then he is released of his duties when the buyout drops.

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Unread post by moonshine » Wed Oct 09, 2024 9:26 am

AppStFan1 wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2024 8:58 am
I would think Charlotte keeps him one more year. The only school you mention that is relevant to us is ECU because the others are going to want coaches way out of our price range. Mike Houston supposedly makes 2M so ECU would be above us as well also. The buyout is much larger if we don’t wait until Dec 2 to formally move on. I do think Gillin should be doing research and lining up interested names if we lose 2 of the next 3, if he hasn’t already been making calls.
Agree, I think Poggi saved his job after destroying ECU this past weekend. Every NC program currently outspends App for a coach. It’s wild to think there’s a possibility that every NC program could be conducting a head coaching search. I’d venture to bet that at least 4 (UNC, NCSU, ECU & App) will be unless they completely turn around their season.
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Unread post by BallantyneApp » Wed Oct 09, 2024 9:35 am

moonshine wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2024 8:40 am
MrCraig wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2024 7:08 am
You get a head start on finding the next guy before most other teams. Then, that guy can start recruiting. That's about it.
A majority of NC FBS programs may be replacing their coach after this season. Mack looks to be done at UNC. Dave’s Wolfpack are underperforming and sitting at .500. Pirates are not happy with Houston in year 6. Not that they’ll do better but Weak fans are growing weary of Clawson. Until this past weekend’s beating of the Pirates, UNCC’s 8 fans were ready to run Poggi and AD Hill out of town.It seems only the Duke job is safe, at this moment, assuming Diaz doesn’t get hired away by a SEC program. Depending on how the chips fall, every NC FBS program could be replacing their coach after this season. Crazy to think about!
Let me guess, after one big win over a not good team- uncc has passed app for good and app will never be good again and they are going to get 60k students and alums to commute from their parents basements every week for football now and people in Charlotte will start caring.

Literally 2 weeks ago they were down 17-0 to Gardner Webb lol.

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Unread post by appfanjj » Wed Oct 09, 2024 10:05 am

The UNCC - ECU game was more of a referendum on just how bad ECU really is (and App to an extent) and not about UNCC being any good at all. Because they aren't.

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Unread post by ASUFan4863 » Wed Oct 09, 2024 10:14 am

BallantyneApp wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2024 9:35 am
moonshine wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2024 8:40 am
MrCraig wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2024 7:08 am
You get a head start on finding the next guy before most other teams. Then, that guy can start recruiting. That's about it.
A majority of NC FBS programs may be replacing their coach after this season. Mack looks to be done at UNC. Dave’s Wolfpack are underperforming and sitting at .500. Pirates are not happy with Houston in year 6. Not that they’ll do better but Weak fans are growing weary of Clawson. Until this past weekend’s beating of the Pirates, UNCC’s 8 fans were ready to run Poggi and AD Hill out of town.It seems only the Duke job is safe, at this moment, assuming Diaz doesn’t get hired away by a SEC program. Depending on how the chips fall, every NC FBS program could be replacing their coach after this season. Crazy to think about!
Let me guess, after one big win over a not good team- uncc has passed app for good and app will never be good again and they are going to get 60k students and alums to commute from their parents basements every week for football now and people in Charlotte will start caring.

Literally 2 weeks ago they were down 17-0 to Gardner Webb lol.
They beat the "not good team" by 31 points. We beat the "not good team" by 2 points. We both have blow out losses to a Top 25 team and an average G5 team.

Right now, Charlotte is the better football team. Not "for good" by any means but they are better than we are. We are one of the worst teams in the country by almost every metric.

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Unread post by Stonewall » Wed Oct 09, 2024 10:55 am

I watched UNCC ECU highlights. I’m glad we don’t play them. I’m about at my catastrophe limit.

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Unread post by AppStFan1 » Wed Oct 09, 2024 12:10 pm

Stonewall wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2024 10:55 am
I watched UNCC ECU highlights. I’m glad we don’t play them. I’m about at my catastrophe limit.
Agreed. I think Charlotte would beat us the way we have played this year but I do think our roster is better. We just aren't playing nearly as good as we should be.

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Unread post by rbarthle17 » Wed Oct 09, 2024 1:16 pm

If we get to 5 wins or better, coach stays on for 2025. Helene, and everything surrounding it, has bought him a pass on this year - that's almost a given. The only way I see him being let go is if we totally go into the dumpster and only manage 2 or fewer wins the rest of the way. But if we can even tread water the rest of the season, he will get one more year.

For those of you that will stop supporting the program because of that, do us all a favor and leave now. We don't need you here.

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