ETSU Game Thread and discussion

[Appmountaineers19]

I think it's important to remember that ETSU is no pushover...Tre Lamb is a good coach and his LR team went 13-2 last year....AND 23 LR players are now at ETSU.

This is a solid team that will likely be a contender in the Southern Conference.

Remember that when you criticize our performance.

Hell I bet ETSU could beat UNCC

So not trying to be that guy but he coached at GW and was 7-5 last year (co- champs Big South) and 7-6 (reg. season champs) the year before that. ETSU was not that good. It's the first game so there's something to build on but OL needs to play better in the run.

Doug Socha is at LR

I also remember many on this board last year after GW saying/thinking (me included) that they may be a really good FcS team and that didn’t pan out. I will not make that mistake again.

We did some good things yesterday but also have some work to do. To be where this team wants to to make CFP we gotta cleanup some things. D has to improve. I don’t want to see us give up those big plays on D. We did it numerous times last year. 4.6 ypc against ETSU easily translates to 6-7 ypc against Clemson or a top G5 opponent. That probably means you lose the game.

I agree. The run D seems for most of the time will bend but not break but regardless if its scheme or mental mistakes, they seem to give up big chunk plays off the edge more than you would like to see.

[KentHogan]

Just curious, did Stroman play yesterday at wide receiver, don’t recall seeing him?

Maybe I just missed him.

[AtlAppMan]

Just curious, did Stroman play yesterday at wide receiver, don’t recall seeing him?

Maybe I just missed him.

According to post game radio said he was out due to injuring

[KentHogan]

Just curious, did Stroman play yesterday at wide receiver, don’t recall seeing him?

Maybe I just missed him.

According to post game radio said he was out due to injuring

Didn’t think I saw him, thanks!

[Black Saturday]

I think it's important to remember that ETSU is no pushover...Tre Lamb is a good coach and his LR team went 13-2 last year....AND 23 LR players are now at ETSU.

This is a solid team that will likely be a contender in the Southern Conference.

Remember that when you criticize our performance.

Hell I bet ETSU could beat UNCC

Let's see how they fair against NDSU in a few weeks. Hope they play them closer than us, always kind of makes me throw up a little when NDSU is higher in the Sagarin or the like over the years since we left the 7th and 8th grade league-lol

[AppStFan1]

I think it's important to remember that ETSU is no pushover...Tre Lamb is a good coach and his LR team went 13-2 last year....AND 23 LR players are now at ETSU.

This is a solid team that will likely be a contender in the Southern Conference.

Remember that when you criticize our performance.

Hell I bet ETSU could beat UNCC

Let's see how they fair against NDSU in a few weeks. Hope they play them closer than us, always kind of makes me throw up a little when NDSU is higher in the Sagarin or the like over the years since we left the 7th and 8th grade league-lol

Crazy thing is NDSU has been 2nd or 3rd best team in FCS the last couple years instead of the best team. I will be curious to see how they do against NDSU as well.

[Yosef84]

You are never going to agree with any negative critique of the O line. So I’m not even going to try to explain.

So you aren’t interested in a different perspective. Got it.

You only have one perspective, all is good with the O line. And I hope you are always correct.

I have my perspective. That’s no different than anyone here. We can disagree but I have never told someone that they are wrong. I was just curious as to what you saw, or your perspective as to why you feel we didn’t push them around. We threw some deep balls which take time to develop which means the line held blocks for 3+ seconds. We ran the ball pretty well. The defensive line got pressure. The LBs led the team in tackles which is an indicator that the front 3 did there job. They had one long run which was do to a missed assignment, not a systemic issue or concern. That one play represented 1/4 of their total yardage. That’s my perspective. Feel free to disagree.

On the point about the “one” big play for 80 targets, I would say same BUT that has been a frequent occurrence over last couple years. In comparison, the last couple JMU te as ms never seem to yield those regular home run plays against them under Cignetti.


We just need to fix it

Trending over multiple years in today's CFB environment is pretty misleading given the turnover, etc. That said, the reason for excluding a single outlier isn't just for purposes of manipulating the stat. It prevents the stat of incorrectly presenting data for the purpose it is intended. Average yards per rushing play is a measure of how effectively we stopped drives. The big play is meaningful but it is a separate stat. Bottom line is that we stopped their running game very effectively and forced them into passing or punting. Of course, it will be much harder to do against Clemson, but the 4+ yard stat is the one that is misleading.

If I had to choose, I would take giving up one or two big plays over getting dominated on a play by play basis. The play after play domination wears down the opponent and controls the clock, so it takes away opportunities for us to answer. Would rather not have either though.

[Bigdaddyg1]

Lots of good defensive teams have those plays where they have a guy or guys out of position and just get burned. I agree with the above. I’d rather give up the occasional big play if we otherwise shut down a great majority of the rush- which we did Saturday

[AppSt94]

The error that created the opportunity for the big run is a correctable one.

[hapapp]

The error that created the opportunity for the big run is a correctable one.

I imagine the tablets on the sideline came into play pretty quickly after that miscue.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

Didn’t read many of the post. I was at the game. Not impressed with either line, O or D.

Keep in mind we had a starting DE and starting NT on limited reps yesterday, and Hopper didn't play at all. Add in Kelly missing some snaps after getting dinged and we were getting a bit thin on DL.

OL has four new starters so it'll take a bit of time for them to play as a unit. We still had 500 yards of offense despite doing basically nothing for the 2nd quarter.

I get it but I still want to see us be able to push an FCS team around.

We were not always pushed around when in the FCS.

[KentHogan]

Quick non-football question, why didn’t the band take the field in pre-game?

That was a bit disappointing!

[AppSt94]

I think that it could be for a couple of reasons. One being the weather and another being difficulties in getting from the field to the endzone seating.

[AppSt94]

Didn’t read many of the post. I was at the game. Not impressed with either line, O or D.

Not to belabor the point but FSU showed a prime example of shitty line play last night.

[NattyBumppo'sRevenge]

Just curious, did Stroman play yesterday at wide receiver, don’t recall seeing him?

Maybe I just missed him.

According to post game radio said he was out due to injuring

Didn’t think I saw him, thanks!

I saw a pic of him with his mom on the sidelines, he had a brace on his knee that had support rods and an axle at the bend.

[AppSnareDrummer]

Quick non-football question, why didn’t the band take the field in pre-game?

That was a bit disappointing!

Late response here, but we were on lightning delay, and there wouldn't have been enough time for us to get our stuff set up in the stands, then set up for pregame, as well as a still slightly wet field being a cause for concern

[KentHogan]

Quick non-football question, why didn’t the band take the field in pre-game?

That was a bit disappointing!

Late response here, but we were on lightning delay, and there wouldn't have been enough time for us to get our stuff set up in the stands, then set up for pregame, as well as a still slightly wet field being a cause for concern

Thanks for sharing! Wasn’t the same without the band on the field!

Safety first!