Thoughts on the season/Team?

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Re: Thoughts on the season/Team?

Unread post by Stonewall » Tue Jul 09, 2024 2:06 pm

kornegaylw wrote:
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Stonewall wrote:
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Sunbelt Championship. Minimum.
Win the SB Championship or just make it?

And if we don't win what it what do want to happen?

I really don't like ultimatums like that b/c it takes nothing into account about the season as a whole or what could come next.
Win it. If we don’t, identify “the why” and address it.

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Re: Thoughts on the season/Team?

Unread post by AppSt94 » Tue Jul 09, 2024 3:19 pm

Stonewall wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2024 2:06 pm
kornegaylw wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2024 11:02 am
Stonewall wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2024 10:52 am
Sunbelt Championship. Minimum.
Win the SB Championship or just make it?

And if we don't win what it what do want to happen?

I really don't like ultimatums like that b/c it takes nothing into account about the season as a whole or what could come next.
Win it. If we don’t, identify “the why” and address it.
That makes sense. Problem is that there is a large contingent of folks on here that were given the reasons why for 2022 and they didn’t want to hear it.

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Re: Thoughts on the season/Team?

Unread post by EastHallApp » Tue Jul 09, 2024 4:22 pm

kornegaylw wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2024 9:03 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2024 7:50 am
kornegaylw wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2024 7:30 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2024 8:15 am
Moving Kaedin to the slot will make this offense scary good. It was difficult to see in the bowl game because of the weather and field conditions but he is seemingly unstoppable in the slot. Teams are going to have to scheme to double him and then guys like Jackson and Fowles are going to need to step up and Joey will need to mature enough to not force it to KR and let the other playmakers take over.

Joey staying healthy is uber critical for the success of this team, but I do feel that Wiles can steer the ship if needed.
This is a wrinkle I've not heard about...KR in the slot gives us so much potential on the outside for Stroman, Horn and Jackson to be open deep.

I'm excited to see how the transfers Fowles and Short play into things and if any of the new Freshmen like Leon or Coakley can break into the rotation.
Robinson in the slot is pretty much unstoppable. Slot is generally matched up against a LB or Safety and those guys aren’t going to be on the line to jam him out of the blocks.
They will have to scheme him and that will leave guys like Horn and Jackson free. Stroman is just who he is. That’s not intended to be a knock on him, because he has the best hands on the team. But there are limitations to what he is capable of that limits what most want him to become. I’ve heard great things about Fowles and he and Lawson will likely factor, along with Hetzel.

I expect Leon to RS. Too much traffic in front of him to rush him. They like Short so we will see.
Stroman is a possession receiver in the scenarios that fit him best. He does what he does well and that's that.

Shorts story reminds me of KRs... Hopefully he can find his lane and contribute.
Stroman has averaged 19.5 ypc in each of his two seasons. I would argue he's pretty much the opposite of a possession receiver.

I don't know what "limitations to what he is capable of" 94 is referring to. But I would caution against the "he just is who he is" line of thought. Guys mature at different rates, and the light bulb doesn't always come on at the same time for everyone. I think Stroman has plenty of room for growth. Whether he realizes that full potential, who knows.

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Re: Thoughts on the season/Team?

Unread post by EastHallApp » Tue Jul 09, 2024 4:23 pm

My thoughts: I am looking forward to the season, and I think the team will win a lot of games.

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Re: Thoughts on the season/Team?

Unread post by AppSt94 » Tue Jul 09, 2024 5:21 pm

EastHallApp wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2024 4:22 pm
kornegaylw wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2024 9:03 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2024 7:50 am
kornegaylw wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2024 7:30 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2024 8:15 am
Moving Kaedin to the slot will make this offense scary good. It was difficult to see in the bowl game because of the weather and field conditions but he is seemingly unstoppable in the slot. Teams are going to have to scheme to double him and then guys like Jackson and Fowles are going to need to step up and Joey will need to mature enough to not force it to KR and let the other playmakers take over.

Joey staying healthy is uber critical for the success of this team, but I do feel that Wiles can steer the ship if needed.
This is a wrinkle I've not heard about...KR in the slot gives us so much potential on the outside for Stroman, Horn and Jackson to be open deep.

I'm excited to see how the transfers Fowles and Short play into things and if any of the new Freshmen like Leon or Coakley can break into the rotation.
Robinson in the slot is pretty much unstoppable. Slot is generally matched up against a LB or Safety and those guys aren’t going to be on the line to jam him out of the blocks.
They will have to scheme him and that will leave guys like Horn and Jackson free. Stroman is just who he is. That’s not intended to be a knock on him, because he has the best hands on the team. But there are limitations to what he is capable of that limits what most want him to become. I’ve heard great things about Fowles and he and Lawson will likely factor, along with Hetzel.

I expect Leon to RS. Too much traffic in front of him to rush him. They like Short so we will see.
Stroman is a possession receiver in the scenarios that fit him best. He does what he does well and that's that.

Shorts story reminds me of KRs... Hopefully he can find his lane and contribute.
Stroman has averaged 19.5 ypc in each of his two seasons. I would argue he's pretty much the opposite of a possession receiver.

I don't know what "limitations to what he is capable of" 94 is referring to. But I would caution against the "he just is who he is" line of thought. Guys mature at different rates, and the light bulb doesn't always come on at the same time for everyone. I think Stroman has plenty of room for growth. Whether he realizes that full potential, who knows.
Yes. You are correct. The light bulb does come on at different times for different players. I am saying that this may be what he is. Not a bad thing. It’s just not a light bulb thing for him.

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Re: Thoughts on the season/Team?

Unread post by Saint3333 » Tue Jul 09, 2024 6:36 pm

We underperformed in 2022 (and other years), no need rehash that I hope.

Last year's class was the first class since 2004 to not receive a conference championship ring, let's not make this a streak.

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Re: Thoughts on the season/Team?

Unread post by asumba95 » Wed Jul 10, 2024 2:25 pm

Ready to see Kanye Roberts in action after another year of getting bigger/stronger

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Re: Thoughts on the season/Team?

Unread post by Stonewall » Thu Jul 11, 2024 11:02 am

Coach was asked what he needed thus got Ponce and Sloan two year contracts.Time is now to prove the investment.

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Re: Thoughts on the season/Team?

Unread post by AppSt94 » Thu Jul 11, 2024 11:18 am

Stonewall wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2024 11:02 am
Coach was asked what he needed thus got Ponce and Sloan two year contracts.Time is now to prove the investment.
Team went 6-1 in it’s last 7 of last year so it seems like that investment is paying off. They seem to be the right pieces to the puzzle. Whether the record going forward validates or changes this train of thought remains to be seen I guess.

Can this team win 12,13,14 games? Quite possibly. This would require a great deal of fortune to get it done.

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Re: Thoughts on the season/Team?

Unread post by mike87 » Thu Jul 11, 2024 12:10 pm

We got lightning in a bottle baby. Come on September.

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Re: Thoughts on the season/Team?

Unread post by Saint3333 » Thu Jul 11, 2024 1:08 pm

AppSt94 wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2024 11:18 am
Stonewall wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2024 11:02 am
Coach was asked what he needed thus got Ponce and Sloan two year contracts.Time is now to prove the investment.
Team went 6-1 in it’s last 7 of last year so it seems like that investment is paying off. They seem to be the right pieces to the puzzle. Whether the record going forward validates or changes this train of thought remains to be seen I guess.

Can this team win 12,13,14 games? Quite possibly. This would require a great deal of fortune to get it done.
6-1 was a nice finish and I like using the record as a barometer of good and poor performance.

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Re: Thoughts on the season/Team?

Unread post by App_in_Maiden » Thu Jul 11, 2024 1:22 pm

Very excited to see how this year plays out after the change last year. Have lots of talent on this roster.
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Re: Thoughts on the season/Team?

Unread post by AppSt94 » Thu Jul 11, 2024 1:28 pm

Saint3333 wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2024 1:08 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2024 11:18 am
Stonewall wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2024 11:02 am
Coach was asked what he needed thus got Ponce and Sloan two year contracts.Time is now to prove the investment.
Team went 6-1 in it’s last 7 of last year so it seems like that investment is paying off. They seem to be the right pieces to the puzzle. Whether the record going forward validates or changes this train of thought remains to be seen I guess.

Can this team win 12,13,14 games? Quite possibly. This would require a great deal of fortune to get it done.
6-1 was a nice finish and I like using the record as a barometer of good and poor performance.
That is such a heavy handed way to measure success. Too many variables that can, and will change as the season progresses. Is this offense as good with Wiles running it than it is with Joey? I personally don’t think so. I feel better with him as QB2 than I did with White, but he isn’t Joey.

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Re: Thoughts on the season/Team?

Unread post by huskie3 » Thu Jul 11, 2024 2:33 pm

Beat ETSU! And PROTECT Joey!!!
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Bring Your A Game!

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Re: Thoughts on the season/Team?

Unread post by Saint3333 » Thu Jul 11, 2024 3:38 pm

AppSt94 wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2024 1:28 pm
Saint3333 wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2024 1:08 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2024 11:18 am
Stonewall wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2024 11:02 am
Coach was asked what he needed thus got Ponce and Sloan two year contracts.Time is now to prove the investment.
Team went 6-1 in it’s last 7 of last year so it seems like that investment is paying off. They seem to be the right pieces to the puzzle. Whether the record going forward validates or changes this train of thought remains to be seen I guess.

Can this team win 12,13,14 games? Quite possibly. This would require a great deal of fortune to get it done.
6-1 was a nice finish and I like using the record as a barometer of good and poor performance.
That is such a heavy handed way to measure success. Too many variables that can, and will change as the season progresses. Is this offense as good with Wiles running it than it is with Joey? I personally don’t think so. I feel better with him as QB2 than I did with White, but he isn’t Joey.
That is how sports work.

6-1 is evidence that it’s paying off. No excuses or spin.

There are many variables. And good programs win titles.

Win.

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Re: Thoughts on the season/Team?

Unread post by Stonewall » Thu Jul 11, 2024 4:13 pm

It’s time. No excuses.

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Re: Thoughts on the season/Team?

Unread post by CoachRob » Thu Jul 11, 2024 9:49 pm

I need to see how well the OL/DL preforms yet before declaring 12+ wins.

There's a lot of talent on the roster, but Championships are won in the trenches. Hard for me to expect a SBC Championship if we don't have 1 of the top OLs/DLs in conference. Was the difference in the Troy game last year I thought.
The OL is WAY too big of a question mark to me making any championship or bust comments for me.

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Re: Thoughts on the season/Team?

Unread post by spacemonkey » Fri Jul 12, 2024 2:28 pm

The defense is my question. The offense is going to put up 28 to 35 per game. Can the defense give up less than 28?

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Re: Thoughts on the season/Team?

Unread post by 311neers » Fri Jul 12, 2024 10:16 pm

spacemonkey wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 2:28 pm
The defense is my question. The offense is going to put up 28 to 35 per game. Can the defense give up less than 28?
28? That’s piss poor for our standards. Or our old standards.

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Re: Thoughts on the season/Team?

Unread post by MDaniels » Sat Jul 13, 2024 4:11 am

Our defense over the last 5 or 6 games last season was much improved. IF our defense continues to gel and we give up less than 20 per contest, I think that anything is possible for this team this season. Don't let Joey near a lawn mower this summer and keep him standing and we're good.

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