Moving On To ODU

[J_Mountaineers]

I absolutely love Clark as a person and I think he equally loves app state but at what point do you start to think about the possibilities of getting a hungry and successful FCS coach or an equally hungry OC/DC from a good team?

[RunawayJM]

I absolutely love Clark as a person and I think he equally loves app state but at what point do you start to think about the possibilities of getting a hungry and successful FCS coach or an equally hungry OC/DC from a good team?

2 weeks ago

[MrCraig]

Rough stuff. I don't have a way to watch the game, but I'm listening to the commentary and watching the score like olden times. Sounds like its the same issues on defense as usual, anything I'm missing?

Some atrocious camera work. You’d think the NFL NETWORK would be good at broadcasting football, but no. No 1st down marker, camera zoomed in too far to see the play happen, camera bites on every play fake. Barely better than an ESPN+ broadcast.

[AppSt91]

Our 2004 defense was really bad also because we were really young. Guess what, those young guys got experience and learned to play and we went on to have unprecedented success. We are playing a ton of young guys, they will get better and we will return to our old ways, just maybe not this year. We all know Sloan can coach D, just needs some time for the young kids to learn how to play. Things will improve.

I don't know that Sloan can coach Defense. Same issues week after week and no progression leads me to believe he may not know how

So the 6-7 games on a new team with new and many young players is more telling than his previous successful years of coaching defense? Yeah, we just have to agree to disagree on that one. The guy has proven throughout his career that he can coach defense.

Hopefully someone hired him away.

[tm37766]

My amateur observations:

Joey is playing pretty well overall. Keeps plays alive , makes decent decisions

Defense makes great plays, followed by dumb ones- ie take bad angles, get out of position

Clark may not be our guy, but IMHO replacing him at year’s end will set us back more than we know.

For some reason I feel like next year we connect the dots and win the close ones against good teams and dominate the crap teams.

[Bigdaddyg1]

First half ODU had 10 plays over 10 yards versus 8 for us. We had our 9th but our receiver didn't run his route.

How many offensive holding plays have we been flagged for this season? I'm sure we have more than our opponents have incurred in our games.

[appstatealum]

Can u imagine being one of our bone headed fans whove been supporting this crap when weve been telling yall for 3 years? This nightmare never ends.

On one hand I get it. You put on the blinders and believe "who am I to be a couch QB" and "he's an App guy, we are the best!". But the reality is there are 850 something College Football teams and like 250 Div 1 teams. This isn't the NFL, alot of these guys are JAGs who chose a career in football or weren't good at much else. Most fans can see what works and what doesnt, and this App State team situation isn't working.

Incredibly well said. I love when I hear fans pretend they know so much about football that they defend every loss. The reality is...the most average fan has the expectation that the program has set. If you cant meet average expectations...you are not fullfilling your job. No coach can survive an angry fan base

I've dabbled in low level coaching of multiple sports, highest only being 18U AAU Basketball. It isn't easy (but I was one of 2 guys without a staff). I've seen great football/bball/baseball minds be terrible coaches. And I've seen great leaders and motivators be terrible coaches. You have to balance both and you have to be super fluid and on your toes adjusting constantly. If you don't coach for adversity, you'll never be able to handle it. What I've seen from this staff is a struggle to coach "outside" of their gameplan. And I've said multiple times I don't see them rooted in an "identity" that they can manipulate the game to return to to favor what we do well. Previous App State teams for the last 2 decades have had that, this one hasn't. It's strange.

[311neers]

My amateur observations:

Joey is playing pretty well overall. Keeps plays alive , makes decent decisions

Defense makes great plays, followed by dumb ones- ie take bad angles, get out of position

Clark may not be our guy, but IMHO replacing him at year’s end will set us back another 2-3 seasons.

For some reason I feel like next year we connect the dots and win the close ones against good teams and dominate the crap teams.

Set us back from what?

[GSUwasGump’sFallbackSchool]

When Clark gets canned he can take the sycophants with him. Y’all can pull for him being the GM of a Jiffy Lube or something.

There’s some losers in here that are satisfied that App has become Arky State because their golden boy keeps his job.

[appgrad95&97]

We'll win.

[ApexASU]

Glad to see Clark is saving the time outs for a future game!🥹

[ASUTodd]

Clark's halftime interview on the radio.... "We're right where we need to be right now"..... Huh???

[CornCobPipes]

Anyone feel confident about making adjustments coming into second half?

[AppSt91]

Anyone feel confident about making adjustments coming into second half?

Uh, no.

[J_Mountaineers]

If and of course it’s an if we lose tonight, it’s completely reasonable to think we may only have one winnable game left on the schedule. If we’re worried about getting “set back” from a 6 win year followed by a 4 win year, then that’s absolutely lazy. Being “set back” assumes there’s progress.

[8993]

No more excuses. No more “next season is our season.” No more “he bleeds black and gold.”

He’s an incredible person with a heart of gold, but that doesn’t make you a good coach. I might love flying, but that doesn’t make me a good pilot. I might love baseball, but that doesn’t mean I can start with the Braves. I might love beer, but that doesn’t mean I would be a good brewer.

[appstatealum]

Our 2004 defense was really bad also because we were really young. Guess what, those young guys got experience and learned to play and we went on to have unprecedented success. We are playing a ton of young guys, they will get better and we will return to our old ways, just maybe not this year. We all know Sloan can coach D, just needs some time for the young kids to learn how to play. Things will improve.

I don't know that Sloan can coach Defense. Same issues week after week and no progression leads me to believe he may not know how

So the 6-7 games on a new team with new and many young players is more telling than his previous successful years of coaching defense? Yeah, we just have to agree to disagree on that one. The guy has proven throughout his career that he can coach defense.

I was excited to have him here. But 6 games in and we are having same struggles. Nah. Tell me what you see that indicates Sloan is good in this situation with this team. What you've done can only.get you a 2 fo 3 game leash. This is game 7 and it isn't just small.stuff.

[mountaineerman]

We aren’t very good and it shows on defense and teams can easily prepare. Why are we giving 10 and 15 yard on coverage on the WR?

[pop5app]

We are in the process of making another average QB look like an NFL ALL-pro.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

Rough stuff. I don't have a way to watch the game, but I'm listening to the commentary and watching the score like olden times. Sounds like its the same issues on defense as usual, anything I'm missing?

Pretty much what you typed.