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"Arson" in Lovill

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Re: "Arson" in Lovill

Unread post by Gonzo » Fri Apr 29, 2016 3:34 pm

This is related to the same "privilege" board that saw much controversy earlier in the school year. Someone dramatically defaced it with fire this time. Here's the RA responsible for the board's take:


He sees it as a "white supremacist act of violence," a "hate crime," and an "attack on the student body." He also claims he is incapable of being racist based on his ethnicity and that people of color at Appalachian "endure mental and emotional trauma on a minute to minute basis."

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Re: "Arson" in Lovill

Unread post by Gonzo » Fri Apr 29, 2016 3:37 pm

It's been years since I was in college and even longer since I lived in a dorm, but when did RA's start taking it upon themselves to relentlessly indoctrinate their residents? Isn't their job to settle room mate conflicts, call the campus police when they smell pot, assist with the general well being of the students on their floor, ect?

Obviously setting fire to a bulletin board is dangerous and irresponsible, but clearly people are fed up being racially shamed in their own home. I don't care what the content is, if it's remotely political it shouldn't be on a dorm room bulletin board. There is no shortage of soap boxes on which to stand on a college campus.

This RA bears responsibility for the behavior illicited by the content of his bulletin board and the toxic culture of his floor. Some young people, especially ones of a certain political persuasion, mistake their own convictions for universal righteousness. The sort of content on his bulletin board is CLEARLY inappropriate for this context. He even admits in his facebook post that this isn't the first time his board has been defaced. You're not posting the Legends concert schedule or where to get free condoms on campus. You're posting what you're aware is controversial and emotional subject matter, as evidence by multiple responses by those you're paid to protect, and you're STILL proudly posting about it and will undoubtedly post similar content in the future. The arrogance it must take to continue to do stuff like that is staggering.

The fact that this kid and those like him still hold positions is proof positive of the biases of higher education today.

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Re: "Arson" in Lovill

Unread post by T-Dog » Fri Apr 29, 2016 4:44 pm

Where was this horrifically racist and unsafe App State when I was in school not that long ago.

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Re: "Arson" in Lovill

Unread post by Watauga72 » Fri Apr 29, 2016 4:47 pm

Oh good lord....yes, racial discrimination does exist, as does bigotry. However, to live your life looking for examples of "priviledge" or lack thereof in every human transaction is such as waste of time and effort. Only makes this student look small minded and self-limited.

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Re: "Arson" in Lovill

Unread post by HighlandsApp » Fri Apr 29, 2016 5:44 pm

Right before exams, there are 42 displaced students who had most of their belongings ruined because someone set the damn building on fire.

End of story. You asshats need to grow a pair.

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Re: "Arson" in Lovill

Unread post by CVAPP » Fri Apr 29, 2016 5:58 pm

HighlandsApp wrote:Right before exams, there are 42 displaced students who had most of their belongings ruined because someone set the damn building on fire.

End of story. You asshats need to grow a pair.
And you need to grow up. Nobody is condoning the actions of anyone.

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Re: "Arson" in Lovill

Unread post by Appftw » Fri Apr 29, 2016 8:47 pm

If something written on a bulletin board drives you to destroy property with fire.... you're making the RA's point for him.
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Re: "Arson" in Lovill

Unread post by EastHallApp » Fri Apr 29, 2016 11:49 pm

God forbid people on a college campus be exposed to views they might disagree with or not already hold.

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Re: "Arson" in Lovill

Unread post by Gonzo » Sat Apr 30, 2016 6:12 am

EastHallApp wrote:God forbid people on a college campus be exposed to views they might disagree with or not already hold.
Right?

You'd think after his mural was destroyed in the past (without fire) he'd consider the possibility that his views aren't unanimous.

I wonder if Ebuka was one of the App students who was so upset about this: http://dailycaller.com/2016/04/16/publi ... ge-ideals/.

Indeed, his political ilk refer to a chalk drawing of merely a presidential candidate's name as hate speech and cry to the administration, which doesn't miss a beat in coddling the precious snow flakes for fear of being steam rolled e.g. Tim Wolfe at Missou (forced to resign over what was later outed as a hoax).

Meanwhile, facially racist literature is posted in the homes of students. Not in the classroom, in the expression tunnel, or on Samford mall, but in the place where the students retreat for peace after a day of exposure to new philosophies and new ideas. Not on his own time, but in his capacity as a state employee, using materials paid for by tax dollars. That's totally ok.

Who are the babies? Who is more sensitive? And which group enjoys the privilege of full backing from the University?

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Re: "Arson" in Lovill

Unread post by JTApps1 » Sat Apr 30, 2016 10:25 am

The simple solution wou,ld have been for the housing department to tell this RA to confine these items to his door instead of posting on the bulletin board. That doesnt justify someone setting fire to the board and endangering everyone there, but sometimes being so in your face with a controversial topic results in extreme responses.

I can't speak to the racial atmosphere on campus right now, but I never saw or heard of anything happening while in school. I had several close friends of different races that never said anything about people treating them in a way that would have them living in fear. That doesn't mean there wont be a few dumb individuals that could say/do something, but App has never been a place that is full of hatred.

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Re: "Arson" in Lovill

Unread post by AppinVA » Sat Apr 30, 2016 10:41 am

I'm not 100 percent convinced that the person who made the board and the one who destroyed it are different people.
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Re: "Arson" in Lovill

Unread post by CheckYosef94 » Sat Apr 30, 2016 10:50 am

JTApps1 wrote:I can't speak to the racial atmosphere on campus right now, but I never saw or heard of anything happening while in school. I had several close friends of different races that never said anything about people treating them in a way that would have them living in fear. That doesn't mean there wont be a few dumb individuals that could say/do something, but App has never been a place that is full of hatred.
I'm on campus and haven't seen anything even remotely racist except for the few screaming about "privilege". Of course they can't possibly be racist because they have the black "privilege" of being able to say whatever they want and scream racism if someone disagrees.

Sorry, I'm a little tired of being told I'm racist just because of my skin color.
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Re: "Arson" in Lovill

Unread post by Appftw » Sat Apr 30, 2016 10:52 am

Talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill. Your attitudes are nearing satire. You really think it's possible to foster anti-white sentiment on a campus that is 98% white??? Please take a deep breath. To even call the language on the board racist is a HUGE stretch. He's just not being PC and usually people love that, except when the truth hurts.

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Re: "Arson" in Lovill

Unread post by Gonzo » Sat Apr 30, 2016 11:13 am

AppinVA wrote:I'm not 100 percent convinced that the person who made the board and the one who destroyed it are different people.
That's a very good point. Virtually every higher ed example of white-on-black racism of late has been exposed as a hoax. Hell, remember the little gay black guy at App who claimed people in Boone were calling him the N-word? I think he was an RA too. The original bulletin board architect even.

It's what happens when people want to oppressed so so bad, but there isn't actually any evidence that they are.

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Re: "Arson" in Lovill

Unread post by Gonzo » Sat Apr 30, 2016 11:15 am

Appftw wrote:You really think it's possible to foster anti-white sentiment on a campus that is 98% white?
Absolutely, especially with a surplus of fat, self-loathing, LGBT white kids with blue hair.

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Re: "Arson" in Lovill

Unread post by Appftw » Sat Apr 30, 2016 11:59 am

The poster was merely pro-minorities and LGBT. There was nothing anti-white about it unless you chose to see it that way.

And for some perspective here on the chalk Trump thing. This is a man who is calling for rounding up 12 million Hispanics and wants to stop an entire religious group from entering the US.

Enjoy your "outrage" over a bulletin board that encourages you to think about someone else for a change.

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Re: "Arson" in Lovill

Unread post by hapapp » Sat Apr 30, 2016 12:23 pm

Gonzo wrote:
Appftw wrote:You really think it's possible to foster anti-white sentiment on a campus that is 98% white?
Absolutely, especially with a surplus of fat, self-loathing, LGBT white kids with blue hair.
Nice job stereotyping. Be careful you might be undercutting your credibility as an objective observer as opposed to someone with their own agenda.

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Re: "Arson" in Lovill

Unread post by Gonzo » Sat Apr 30, 2016 12:49 pm

Appftw wrote: Enjoy your "outrage" over a bulletin board that encourages you to think about someone else for a change.
Ha! I do my part for marginalized people every day and it ain't from behind a keyboard or by stapling a recycled infographic on a dorm bulletin board.

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Re: "Arson" in Lovill

Unread post by Gonzo » Sat Apr 30, 2016 12:58 pm

Appftw wrote:The poster was merely pro-minorities and LGBT. There was nothing anti-white about it unless you chose to see it that way.
Many people see it that way. What you, Ebuka, and other members of your political persuasion continue to do is fancy yourself, not just our intellectual superiors, but our moral superiors. Believe it or not other people have their own brains.

Writing Trump in chalk doesn't leave much to interpretation. You might disagree with his famously inconsistent immigration policies, but that doesn't make his name written in chalk profane. Explicitly telling people their accomplishments are subordinate to those of other groups? That's profane. And I'm not even addressing context this time (people's homes vs college side walks).

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