BambooRdApp wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 06, 2026 11:56 pm

I am not sure how one can conclude that this was "buried by the administration" without plausible evidence to conclude so.... Unless one has inside information on what facts were provided to the administration during the original investigation and university did not act upon credible evidence at the time. If the only information one has is the information in the link, there is no way to know. That is pure conjecture.
One can make many wild ass guesses.
Investigation was not very good
, investigation was very thorough however no one spoke up at the time for whatever reason.
A variety of other reasons.
I think one should let the story take it's course. Eventually, the truth will come out

For me, the first thing that comes to mind is I feel sorry for the victims of these events.

BambooRdApp wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 06, 2026 11:56 pm

I am not sure how one can conclude that this was "buried by the administration" without plausible evidence to conclude so.... Unless one has inside information on what facts were provided to the administration during the original investigation and university did not act upon credible evidence at the time. If the only information one has is the information in the link, there is no way to know. That is pure conjecture.
One can make many wild ass guesses.
Investigation was not very good
, investigation was very thorough however no one spoke up at the time for whatever reason.
A variety of other reasons.
I think one should let the story take it's course. Eventually, the truth will come out

For me, the first thing that comes to mind is I feel sorry for the victims of these events.

appdaze wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 07, 2026 7:55 am

BambooRdApp wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 06, 2026 11:56 pm

I am not sure how one can conclude that this was "buried by the administration" without plausible evidence to conclude so.... Unless one has inside information on what facts were provided to the administration during the original investigation and university did not act upon credible evidence at the time. If the only information one has is the information in the link, there is no way to know. That is pure conjecture.
One can make many wild ass guesses.
Investigation was not very good
, investigation was very thorough however no one spoke up at the time for whatever reason.
A variety of other reasons.
I think one should let the story take it's course. Eventually, the truth will come out

For me, the first thing that comes to mind is I feel sorry for the victims of these events.

I think you need to read what I said again. I know nothing of the situation other than what I am reading, and the stories coming out would point in the direction of the administration pushing things under the rug. It may be true or it may not be true. You all should go to other sites and read through the comment sections, news sites and social media sites. Edit: Looks like multiple sites I read the other day have scrubbed their comment sections, typical.

Overall this just isn't something you want to be tied to. Like I said in my first post, as you have also said, the truth will come out eventually.

From the article:
"The university is aware that Ross’s prior employers included the Interlochen Center for the Arts — a nonprofit organization that operates arts education programs in Interlochen, Michigan — from 1992 to 2000."

From the internet:
"Jeffrey Epstein attended the Interlochen Center for the Arts summer camp in 1967 and became a major donor from 1990 to 2003, funding the construction of a campus lodge that bore his name. A recent investigative report identified Epstein as one of 47 adults accused of sexual misconduct at the institution, with two former students alleging he engaged in sexual conduct with them while they were affiliated with the school.

Following these allegations and the release of Department of Justice records, Interlochen demolished the Green Lake Lodge (formerly the Epstein Lodge) in June 2026 to sever any physical connection to the late sex offender. The investigation, conducted by the Sanghavi Law Office, uncovered decades of abuse spanning the 1950s to the 2010s, prompting Michigan lawmakers to seek further inquiries into the school's historical ties to Epstein."

McLeansvilleAppFan wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 07, 2026 7:26 am

BambooRdApp wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 06, 2026 11:56 pm

I am not sure how one can conclude that this was "buried by the administration" without plausible evidence to conclude so.... Unless one has inside information on what facts were provided to the administration during the original investigation and university did not act upon credible evidence at the time. If the only information one has is the information in the link, there is no way to know. That is pure conjecture.
One can make many wild ass guesses.
Investigation was not very good
, investigation was very thorough however no one spoke up at the time for whatever reason.
A variety of other reasons.
I think one should let the story take it's course. Eventually, the truth will come out

For me, the first thing that comes to mind is I feel sorry for the victims of these events.

I tend to agree with this statement except for the part about the 2015 investigation not turning anything up but then in 2018 a former Interlochen student alerting App State to allegations at Interlochen. Combined with 2015 and someone OUTSIDE contacting App in 2018 that should have alerted App State to do a bit more than put the Interlochen person in contact with counselors. That does come across as brushing this aside some. I would have liked to have read "After the 2018 contact we did more investigation just to make sure nothing was missed from 2015. That could include App State reaching out to Interlochen to alert them of the allegations and maybe the two institutions could have worked together to dig a bit deeper."

BambooRdApp wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 07, 2026 8:44 am

McLeansvilleAppFan wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 07, 2026 7:26 am

BambooRdApp wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 06, 2026 11:56 pm

I am not sure how one can conclude that this was "buried by the administration" without plausible evidence to conclude so.... Unless one has inside information on what facts were provided to the administration during the original investigation and university did not act upon credible evidence at the time. If the only information one has is the information in the link, there is no way to know. That is pure conjecture.
One can make many wild ass guesses.
Investigation was not very good
, investigation was very thorough however no one spoke up at the time for whatever reason.
A variety of other reasons.
I think one should let the story take it's course. Eventually, the truth will come out

For me, the first thing that comes to mind is I feel sorry for the victims of these events.

I tend to agree with this statement except for the part about the 2015 investigation not turning anything up but then in 2018 a former Interlochen student alerting App State to allegations at Interlochen. Combined with 2015 and someone OUTSIDE contacting App in 2018 that should have alerted App State to do a bit more than put the Interlochen person in contact with counselors. That does come across as brushing this aside some. I would have liked to have read "After the 2018 contact we did more investigation just to make sure nothing was missed from 2015. That could include App State reaching out to Interlochen to alert them of the allegations and maybe the two institutions could have worked together to dig a bit deeper."

My comment was a general comment about what the article contains. Not enough information in the article to conclude anything. As stated, the story will eventually come out. If the university did a thorough investigation at the time, great. If not, it will be on the university to pay the price so to speak. Overall, I prefer to get the actual conclusions as compared to court of public opinion from folks that were near/close to the actual chain of events..not some yo-yos like us on a message board.

I drew zero conclusions/projections.. whatever term you want to use. My initial reaction is that it is sad for the victims.

BambooRdApp wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 07, 2026 8:38 am

appdaze wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 07, 2026 7:55 am

BambooRdApp wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 06, 2026 11:56 pm

I am not sure how one can conclude that this was "buried by the administration" without plausible evidence to conclude so.... Unless one has inside information on what facts were provided to the administration during the original investigation and university did not act upon credible evidence at the time. If the only information one has is the information in the link, there is no way to know. That is pure conjecture.
One can make many wild ass guesses.
Investigation was not very good
, investigation was very thorough however no one spoke up at the time for whatever reason.
A variety of other reasons.
I think one should let the story take it's course. Eventually, the truth will come out

For me, the first thing that comes to mind is I feel sorry for the victims of these events.

I think you need to read what I said again. I know nothing of the situation other than what I am reading, and the stories coming out would point in the direction of the administration pushing things under the rug. It may be true or it may not be true. You all should go to other sites and read through the comment sections, news sites and social media sites. Edit: Looks like multiple sites I read the other day have scrubbed their comment sections, typical.

Overall this just isn't something you want to be tied to. Like I said in my first post, as you have also said, the truth will come out eventually.

From the article:
"The university is aware that Ross’s prior employers included the Interlochen Center for the Arts — a nonprofit organization that operates arts education programs in Interlochen, Michigan — from 1992 to 2000."

From the internet:
"Jeffrey Epstein attended the Interlochen Center for the Arts summer camp in 1967 and became a major donor from 1990 to 2003, funding the construction of a campus lodge that bore his name. A recent investigative report identified Epstein as one of 47 adults accused of sexual misconduct at the institution, with two former students alleging he engaged in sexual conduct with them while they were affiliated with the school.

Following these allegations and the release of Department of Justice records, Interlochen demolished the Green Lake Lodge (formerly the Epstein Lodge) in June 2026 to sever any physical connection to the late sex offender. The investigation, conducted by the Sanghavi Law Office, uncovered decades of abuse spanning the 1950s to the 2010s, prompting Michigan lawmakers to seek further inquiries into the school's historical ties to Epstein."

I do not need to read what you wrote again. My reply was not specific to you. If it were, I would have replied specifically to you. It was a general comment around not jumping to conclusions...but, thanks for playing.

appdaze wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 07, 2026 11:23 am

... especially with the ties that Ross had to an institution getting trashed right now for Epstein ties. The truth will hopefully come out, or get buried, we shall see.

mike87 wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 07, 2026 9:49 am

So do we get Bugler's Dream back now?