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Re: App copyright case

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:14 am
by kickass143
There are plenty of capable graphic artist in a stones throw of these schools that can give them there own unique brand (logo & color combo) to promote and be proud of.

Re: App copyright case

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2023 5:38 pm
by bcoach
WVAPPeer wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:43 pm
Apex HS uses the block A with Cougars written across the middle line and their colors are black and gold, so I have to be right on top of the logo to see who it belongs to -
I think Apex is Green & Gold. I was told Coach Moore came up with the Block A logo and also gave Apex permission to use it. Just what I was told.

Re: App copyright case

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 4:09 pm
by NewApp
bcoach wrote:
Mon Mar 06, 2023 5:38 pm
WVAPPeer wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:43 pm
Apex HS uses the block A with Cougars written across the middle line and their colors are black and gold, so I have to be right on top of the logo to see who it belongs to -
I think Apex is Green & Gold. I was told Coach Moore came up with the Block A logo and also gave Apex permission to use it. Just what I was told.
That is correct about Coach Moore coming up with the white block A and the cursive Mountaineers under the A's line.

Re: App copyright case

Posted: Thu May 25, 2023 12:55 pm
by T-Dog
To update, Tuscola has chose a new logo.

https://www.themountaineer.com/news/say ... 4a164.html

Re: App copyright case

Posted: Thu May 25, 2023 12:58 pm
by BambooRdApp
Actually, not bad at all

Re: App copyright case

Posted: Thu May 25, 2023 1:18 pm
by AppSt94
He looks like a playa.

Re: App copyright case

Posted: Sat May 27, 2023 4:24 am
by AppDub
Wonder how long it takes some parent to complain that the new logo promotes unhealthy habits since the mountaineer has a pipe?

Re: App copyright case

Posted: Sat May 27, 2023 7:22 am
by NattyBumppo'sRevenge
I hope Alabama makes us stop using Roll Neers

Re: App copyright case

Posted: Sat May 27, 2023 9:27 pm
by scatman77
NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Sat May 27, 2023 7:22 am
I hope Alabama makes us stop using Roll Neers
That's a battle I would be happy to lose. That dang phrase curls my nose hairs.

Re: App copyright case

Posted: Sat May 27, 2023 11:03 pm
by appvette
appdaze wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:43 pm
Ncmtn wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:30 pm
They literally copied the exact logo. Yea that’s not allowed and never should be. App State is legally required to defend their copyright or they could lose the copyright completely. Which would allow anyone to create merchandise with that logo and the university wouldn’t get a penny. That school messed up and they’re correcting it by having a new custom logo designed. There are many ways to depict a mountaineer that isn’t an exact replica of a copyrighted logo.
You are correct in their straight copy of it. I think my rant is more towards the frequency at which this is happening now. This App article is just another in a long string of these situations that are just going to leave high/middle schools with next to nothing. Something has to give somewhere.
You act like there is a small supply of logos but there are pretty much an infinite number of possibilities. They literally just spent $500 and got 250 unique designs that aren't a direct rip off of another school. Why couldn't they do that from the beginning?

Re: App copyright case

Posted: Sat May 27, 2023 11:36 pm
by appdaze
appvette wrote:
Sat May 27, 2023 11:03 pm
appdaze wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:43 pm
Ncmtn wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:30 pm
They literally copied the exact logo. Yea that’s not allowed and never should be. App State is legally required to defend their copyright or they could lose the copyright completely. Which would allow anyone to create merchandise with that logo and the university wouldn’t get a penny. That school messed up and they’re correcting it by having a new custom logo designed. There are many ways to depict a mountaineer that isn’t an exact replica of a copyrighted logo.
You are correct in their straight copy of it. I think my rant is more towards the frequency at which this is happening now. This App article is just another in a long string of these situations that are just going to leave high/middle schools with next to nothing. Something has to give somewhere.
You act like there is a small supply of logos but there are pretty much an infinite number of possibilities. They literally just spent $500 and got 250 unique designs that aren't a direct rip off of another school. Why couldn't they do that from the beginning?

These are their new logos
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It doesn't take long to look things up to find similar logos. The "hiker" is clearly yet another Daniel Boone/Davy Crockett logo which are a dime a dozen. The others are very similar to the ones ASU has used before and other mountaineer/mountain man logos from other schools. There really aren't infinite possibilities. Thousands of logos are used every day that would break copyright law if challenged. The rights owners typically overlook them as not all are willing to go the court route. At this point, Everything is being copyrighted https://www.mondaq.com/unitedstates/tra ... magination
Lots of schools have their colors trademarked. Unique is a matter of opinion and the only opinion that matters in these cases are those of a judge. Before you think, "Naw, there is enough difference blah blah blah," People/companies have been sued for infringement for less similar logos. The bias of uniqueness can be influenced by how much money is on the line. Copyrights/trademarks are a dog-eat-dog world.

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Re: App copyright case

Posted: Sun May 28, 2023 8:46 am
by Yosef84
scatman77 wrote:
Sat May 27, 2023 9:27 pm
NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Sat May 27, 2023 7:22 am
I hope Alabama makes us stop using Roll Neers
That's a battle I would be happy to lose. That dang phrase curls my nose hairs.
I was at a Knights game last week wearing my App shirt and as I walked by a group of young folks, someone said "Go Neers" (at least didn't say Roll). It really didn't even register what she had said until I was well past them. I did stop and speak on my way back. The whole group was App grads (very recent) and they were nice, but I just can't get used to hearing "Neers"

Re: App copyright case

Posted: Sun May 28, 2023 10:28 am
by Rekdiver
I was in the Alumni Hall store Friday. I saw a shirt that said ‘Neers….My reaction was involuntary as I exhaled audibly my best Roy Kent “f……….k” SMH

Re: App copyright case

Posted: Sun May 28, 2023 11:41 am
by appdaze
Go/roll neers....welcome to the hash tag generation.

Re: App copyright case

Posted: Sun May 28, 2023 12:59 pm
by AppSt94
Rekdiver wrote:
Sun May 28, 2023 10:28 am
I was in the Alumni Hall store Friday. I saw a shirt that said ‘Neers….My reaction was involuntary as I exhaled audibly my best Roy Kent “f……….k” SMH
A good Roy Kent “F—K OFF” was my first thought as well.