Appalachian Energy Conference 2025

[AppSt94]

The climate advocates biggest obstacle is the hypocrisy of their political class. Common sense is on their side, albeit at a much-reduced rate than I think they like to admit. The sea-level rising advocates building ocean side mansions and flying to rallies on private jets is a terrible look. But if you don't believe burning fossil fuels is bad, take a few huffs from a diesel exhaust. It can't be good.

Point is all moot though, we will nuke ourselves out of existence way before climate change can get us. Meanwhile, enjoy the warmer weather.

I think not. It was 101 in Lexington, NC today with a heat index of 108. I have no problem sweating in 75 degree weather much less 101.

Folks in the mountains and at the coast are waiting for a reply about choosing to live in an armpit...but I won't do that.

Only one member here that I know of lives in Fayetteville.

[appst89]

I have some experience dealing with research and funding. The "science" will be whatever is necessary to keep the grant money flowing. That is true 100% of the time. After my experience in dealing with it, I will never trust any type of research again. Just look for where the money is coming from, or who is going to benefit, and you will be able to tell what the "research" indicates well before anything is ever published.

[mike87]

The climate advocates biggest obstacle is the hypocrisy of their political class. Common sense is on their side, albeit at a much-reduced rate than I think they like to admit. The sea-level rising advocates building ocean side mansions and flying to rallies on private jets is a terrible look. But if you don't believe burning fossil fuels is bad, take a few huffs from a diesel exhaust. It can't be good.

Point is all moot though, we will nuke ourselves out of existence way before climate change can get us. Meanwhile, enjoy the warmer weather.

I think not. It was 101 in Lexington, NC today with a heat index of 108. I have no problem sweating in 75 degree weather much less 101.

Folks in the mountains and at the coast are waiting for a reply about choosing to live in an armpit...but I won't do that.

Only one member here that I know of lives in Fayetteville.

Ooh. Some crevices are even deeper than the armpit.

[appstate24]

I have some experience dealing with research and funding. The "science" will be whatever is necessary to keep the grant money flowing. That is true 100% of the time. After my experience in dealing with it, I will never trust any type of research again. Just look for where the money is coming from, or who is going to benefit, and you will be able to tell what the "research" indicates well before anything is ever published.

Nailed it!

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

I have some experience dealing with research and funding. The "science" will be whatever is necessary to keep the grant money flowing. That is true 100% of the time. After my experience in dealing with it, I will never trust any type of research again. Just look for where the money is coming from, or who is going to benefit, and you will be able to tell what the "research" indicates well before anything is ever published.

Are you at liberty to give specifics? I find this an interesting point.

Data can certainly be manipulated and tobacco companies and fossil fuel companies certainly have a track record of doing what they have done.

I would like to her more about your experiences.

[appst89]

I have some experience dealing with research and funding. The "science" will be whatever is necessary to keep the grant money flowing. That is true 100% of the time. After my experience in dealing with it, I will never trust any type of research again. Just look for where the money is coming from, or who is going to benefit, and you will be able to tell what the "research" indicates well before anything is ever published.

Are you at liberty to give specifics? I find this an interesting point.

Data can certainly be manipulated and tobacco companies and fossil fuel companies certainly have a track record of doing what they have done.

I would like to her more about your experiences.

Not a lot in the way of specifics that I can share.

I saw "research" that aimed toward things that aligned with my views, and an equal amount aimed in the other direction. 100% of the outcomes were predetermined. It may have started as legitimate research, but by the time it got to the point that money was available to fund it, I could tell you what the end result was going to be.

My experiences have led me to the point that I no longer believe there is any legitimate research being conducted, where those involved are willing to go where the data takes them and report it honestly.

[AtlAppMan]

Look at Pharma industry. Nuff said

When a lot of money is at stake the “research and science” will be found/created to support the machine. People will be bought.

I have learned this in my old age

[AppSt94]

Look at Pharma industry. Nuff said

When a lot of money is at stake the “research and science” will be found/created to support the machine. People will be bought.

I have learned this in my old age

I took a class at App that discussed this very same thing. Question both the research and the source of the research.

[AtlAppMan]

I’m sorry but ran across this and could not help myself

https://x.com/rickydoggin/status/19391 ... 34429?s=12