Student fees and cost of App

[Stonewall]

Nothing is "free".

[HighlandsApp]

Nothing is "free".

The North Carolina Constitution would beg otherwise...

[NewApp]

What track in Kidd Brewer?
Athletics Facilities - This fee supports the debt service for the athletics facilities enhancement
project. This project included the women’s softball field, replacement of the synthetic playing surface on
the football field, an upgrade of the track and field facilities at Kidd Brewer Stadium and construction of a
new field house to provide expanded and upgraded training, meeting, office, and support facilities.

[Stonewall]

Nothing is "free".

The North Carolina Constitution would beg otherwise...

Try not paying your taxes and see how it works out for you.

[HighlandsApp]

Nothing is "free".

The North Carolina Constitution would beg otherwise...

Try not paying your taxes and see how it works out for you.

The NC Constitution states that the state university system will provide a free college education to state residents.

[appdaze]

Nothing is "free".

The North Carolina Constitution would beg otherwise...

Try not paying your taxes and see how it works out for you.

The NC Constitution states that the state university system will provide a free college education to state residents.

https://www.ncleg.gov/Laws/Constitution ... 20students.

Sec. 9. Benefits of public institutions of higher education.

The General Assembly shall provide that the benefits of The University of North Carolina and other public institutions of higher education, as far as practicable, be extended to the people of the State free of expense.


Lovely loop hole there isn't it?

[Stonewall]

I've paid a lot of "free" taxes , more just last week.

[bcoach]

I agree with some of the sentiments that have been expressed. Yes, higher education is getting more expensive. Yes, the General Assembly needs to provide more support. Yes, Appalachian State is still an excellent value.

It's ironic, though, to see collegiate sports fans (which I assume we all are) complaining about the increase in student fees, because a MAJOR reason for the increase in fees at many schools is athletics. Athletic departments, even at many Power 5 schools (and certainly at Group of 5 schools), often operate in the red. In fact, that's sometimes true of ALL sports at the school -- even football. At many schools, EVERY sport is a "non-revenue" sport.

Athletic administrators and fans often argue that "football pays the bills" and "props up" secondary (Olympic) sports, but at many schools, football revenue (as high as it is) doesn't even cover football expenses. That's because of coaches' salaries (which have soared in recent years), buyouts for underperforming coaches who are fired before their contracts expire, stadium enhancements, plush locker rooms and training facilities, travel expenses that are rising because conferences are less geographically compact than in the past, etc. This, in turn, leads to more institutional support and student fees sometimes "propping up" the football program.

Without those fees, ticket prices and booster club donation requirements would be even higher than they are. Wouldn't that complicate efforts to get more people to back the Yosef Club?

The person who created this thread complained about schools "nickel-and-diming" students and charging them for "services you will likely never use." That's EXACTLY what students who AREN'T sports fans (and who don't attend games) would argue about us. Why, they say, should the school jack up student fees to placate the alumni (who likely have more money than they do) and subsidize their entertainment? If the alumni want to field competitive teams, they argue, let them pay what the market demands instead of relying on student fees.

I'll end my rant. Like all of you, I love college sports and I love the Mountaineers. But let's not be hypocritical. If you aren't a student or a parent paying for a student, you really have no right to complain. You and I are benefitting from the system.

You are 100% spot on.

[bcoach]

Nothing is "free".

The North Carolina Constitution would beg otherwise...

Try not paying your taxes and see how it works out for you.

The NC Constitution states that the state university system will provide a free college education to state residents.

They can not provide a " free " education. That is impossible. What that really means is that the university system will provide an education payed by others. He is completely accurate when he says nothing is "free".

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

What track in Kidd Brewer?
Athletics Facilities - This fee supports the debt service for the athletics facilities enhancement
project. This project included the women’s softball field, replacement of the synthetic playing surface on
the football field, an upgrade of the track and field facilities at Kidd Brewer Stadium and construction of a
new field house to provide expanded and upgraded training, meeting, office, and support facilities.

When that was written they were paying for an upgrade to the track at KBS. I don't think it said the track would be there in perpetuity.

Like you I wish the old WHS area had been in place before the losses at KBS for T&F but it just was not going to happen given everything else with athletics and money.

[WASU 93]

https://studentaccounts.appstate.edu/si ... uition.pdf

Good breakdown with definitions for each item towards the end. It's amazing how much universities in general are nickel and diming people to death at this point. We aren't the worst by a long shot but it costs about 20k now for in-state. Jeebus!!! The system has just become like everything else in our lives. You pay for a bunches of services you will likely not ever use.


Source
https://studentaccounts.appstate.edu/tu ... n-and-fees

I am not sure where you are coming up with $20K for In-State. Tuition for two semesters in under $8K for the year if you live off campus. If you live on campus with a standard meal plan, App is under $17K for the year.

Now, off-campus living in Boone is borderline crazy. A lot of the new properties are getting $800 to $1,000K per bedroom (Which means a 4 bedroom is drawing $3200 to $4000 a month) and some don't even have enough parking for their residents. Of course, the flip side is that we were willing to share bedrooms and put four people in a two bedroom apartment in the eighties and nineties and now, most want their own bedroom.

I believe on-campus parking is over $500 for a year and the private lots are $600+

My daughters a freshman I paid 9090$ per semester not including parking and the other etc. I have the gray hairs to prove it. More like 21,000 after all the oh yeah that too stuff.

My son is a sophomore living on campus. His invoice is not as much. I know that they are charging different prices depending on which dorm the students live in vs. a flat rate.

[mountaineerman]

https://studentaccounts.appstate.edu/si ... uition.pdf

Good breakdown with definitions for each item towards the end. It's amazing how much universities in general are nickel and diming people to death at this point. We aren't the worst by a long shot but it costs about 20k now for in-state. Jeebus!!! The system has just become like everything else in our lives. You pay for a bunches of services you will likely not ever use.


Source
https://studentaccounts.appstate.edu/tu ... n-and-fees

I am not sure where you are coming up with $20K for In-State. Tuition for two semesters in under $8K for the year if you live off campus. If you live on campus with a standard meal plan, App is under $17K for the year.

Now, off-campus living in Boone is borderline crazy. A lot of the new properties are getting $800 to $1,000K per bedroom (Which means a 4 bedroom is drawing $3200 to $4000 a month) and some don't even have enough parking for their residents. Of course, the flip side is that we were willing to share bedrooms and put four people in a two bedroom apartment in the eighties and nineties and now, most want their own bedroom.

I believe on-campus parking is over $500 for a year and the private lots are $600+

My daughters a freshman I paid 9090$ per semester not including parking and the other etc. I have the gray hairs to prove it. More like 21,000 after all the oh yeah that too stuff.

My son is a sophomore living on campus. His invoice is not as much. I know that they are charging different prices depending on which dorm the students live in vs. a flat rate.

You’re not the first person who’s told me this. She is in Thunderhill which is one of the newest Dorms. I was never told that there was a different rate or a dorm that was cheaper.

[HighlandsApp]

https://studentaccounts.appstate.edu/si ... uition.pdf

Good breakdown with definitions for each item towards the end. It's amazing how much universities in general are nickel and diming people to death at this point. We aren't the worst by a long shot but it costs about 20k now for in-state. Jeebus!!! The system has just become like everything else in our lives. You pay for a bunches of services you will likely not ever use.


Source
https://studentaccounts.appstate.edu/tu ... n-and-fees

I am not sure where you are coming up with $20K for In-State. Tuition for two semesters in under $8K for the year if you live off campus. If you live on campus with a standard meal plan, App is under $17K for the year.

Now, off-campus living in Boone is borderline crazy. A lot of the new properties are getting $800 to $1,000K per bedroom (Which means a 4 bedroom is drawing $3200 to $4000 a month) and some don't even have enough parking for their residents. Of course, the flip side is that we were willing to share bedrooms and put four people in a two bedroom apartment in the eighties and nineties and now, most want their own bedroom.

I believe on-campus parking is over $500 for a year and the private lots are $600+

My daughters a freshman I paid 9090$ per semester not including parking and the other etc. I have the gray hairs to prove it. More like 21,000 after all the oh yeah that too stuff.

My son is a sophomore living on campus. His invoice is not as much. I know that they are charging different prices depending on which dorm the students live in vs. a flat rate.

You’re not the first person who’s told me this. She is in Thunderhill which is one of the newest Dorms. I was never told that there was a different rate or a dorm that was cheaper.

https://housing.appstate.edu/halls

It's been posted for years all over the internet

[appdaze]

Good to see Frank hall is still on the cheap end of things. My old haunt looked out over stadium lot. Those in room sinks sure made for great 3am urinals.